Oh Mary Kay. Really Now.

[CatWoman]

Mary Kay Letourneau is the crazy-faced former teacher who was convicted of raping her 13-year-old student over 10 years ago. Mary Kay went to prison for 7 years, got out and married Vili Fualaau ("the student"). Mary Kay and Vili have two kids together. I know you've been feverishly wondering what these two have been up to lately. Well, they are now hosting parties in Seattle! And not just any party, but a "Hot For Teacher" party. Chris Hansen, please pour this party a glass of lemonade and tell it to have a seat.

This Saturday will be the third time Fuel in Seattle hosts the party. Vili plays DJ for the night while Mary Kay goes around signing autographs. The owner thinks it's just the cleverest thing he's ever farted out. The owner told KOMO TV, "It was sort of a joke but sort of real, and it was just something that we thought was a good name for it, and of course we got Mary's permission to do it. She's really trying to kick-start his career. She meets people, she greets people, she dances to music, she hosts the party. And she's an absolute sweetheart. And everyone who meets her realizes that and is kind of flabbergasted by how nice she is."

http://www.dlisted.com/node/32187

[dsc]

1. try to imagine for say 30 seconds

that a male teacher who had sex with a 12 year old boy, got probation, had sex again with the same boy, went to Massachusetts to get married and then had this kind of party. His ass would be under the jail.

[CatWoman]

2. you're absolutely right

this is a TRIPLE standard here....

[slackmaster]

43. Truer words were never written on DU

Nice perspective there dsc.

[joshcryer]

54. He would go to jail for 7 years and then all would be well.

[Orrex]

3. Does she have to register as a sex offender?

I wish that there were some law against the offender profiting from the offense, as is the case here.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

4. I believe that their children are not in their custody

I know that the fellow's parents were raising at least one of their daughters.

The ones I feel sorriest for are her former husband and especially the children from her first marriage.

[Gabi Hayes]

6. If you knew anything about her own daddy, you'd probably feel at least a glimmer of

compassion for her.

at least up to this point.

still, and all, she's got to make a living, and I have a feeling she won't be seeing the inside of a classroom (from behind the teacher's desk, anyway) anytime soon

[dorkulon]

9. What about her dad? Never heard anything about that. /nt

[benEzra]

27. Her dad was kicked out of the John Birch Society for racism and extremism.

Seriously. Also had a seriously warped family life.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_G._Schmitz

Return to the state senate

Schmitz won back his state senate seat in 1978. He was named chairman of the Constitutional Amendments Committee.

In 1981, he chaired a committee hearing on abortion, which led to the issuance in his name of a press release headlined "Senator Schmitz and His Committee Survive Attack of the Bulldykes." It referred to his audience at the hearings as having "hard, Jewish, and arguably female faces." Feminist attorney Gloria Allred, who testified before the committee, sued Schmitz for $10 million, but settled for $20,000 and an apology. Schmitz's "apology" read, in part, "I have never considered her to be... slick, butch lawyeress." The incident cost him his committee chairmanship and the John Birch Society stripped him of his membership for "extremism." Despite this, Schmitz announced plans to run for the Republican nomination for the United States Senate in 1982.

Extramarital affair

Early in 1982, John George Stuckle, an infant born on June 10, 1981, was treated at an Orange County hospital for an injured penis. A piece of hair was wrapped so tightly around the organ "in a square knot," according to one doctor—that it was almost severed. The surgery went well, and the baby suffered no permanent injury. However, the baby's mother, Carla, a 43-year-old Swedish-born immigrant and longtime Republican volunteer, wasn't allowed to take John George home, since some of the attending doctors were convinced the hair had been deliberately tied around his penis.<3>

Detectives threatened to arrest Carla and take John George away permanently unless she identified the father. In a shocking development, Carla said that Schmitz was John George's father.<3>

During a custody hearing, Schmitz acknowledged fathering John George out of wedlock. He'd also fathered Carla's daughter, Eugenie. The admission effectively ended his political career, though he made a quixotic run for the 38th Congressional District in 1984. He was defeated by former Congressman Bob Dornan in the Republican primary 65% to 11%, with another candidate earning 24%. Dornan would go on to defeat Democratic incumbent Rep. Jerry Patterson in November. Schmitz and his wife, Mary, briefly separated over the incident.<3>

[Liberal_in_LA]

34. And Bob Dornan turned out to be a real nut also.

[FloridaJudy]

45. Jaysus. How nuts do you have to be

To have the John Birch Society expel you for "extremism"?

[LostinVA]

47. Her mother was also an "anti-feminist activist"

Her father was also a US Congresscritter, and a Catholic in the Mel Gibson mode, ie not really a devout Catholic but using it to control the women in his household.

Just one reason I love Gloria Allred, no matter how showboating she can sometimes be: she lambasted his ass for being homophobic and anti-women the whole time he was in Congress, and won a $10 million lawsuit against him for defamation of character (she settled for something like $50,000).

[truedelphi]

11. She did not have a very decent childhood.

I read her story and did feel compassion for her.

[liberalhistorian]

39. And her husband, frankly, was not the nicest person in the world

or the best husband, either. She seems to have found happiness with Vilii, people need to get over it, shut up and leave them the hell alone.

[truedelphi]

42. Our society has a lot of voyeurism in it. n/t

[LostinVA]

48. Agreed -- defintely not the "St. Stephen" the media made him out to be

Which, to forestall posters' accusations, doesn't make MKL's actions lawful.

[lumberjack_jeff]

59. Neither lawful, nor excusable. n/t

[Hepburn]

12. RW Orange County CA congressman who had...

...two families at the same time. You know, typical Pubbie Family values.

Schmitz is her maiden name...look up "John G. Schmitz."

:hi:

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. I do

which makes me feel sorry for her children--will they inherit the same tendency?

[Orrex]

18. A little even-handedness is all I'm asking

Even here at DU, child molesters are routinely condemned as "monsters," and many threads about them include at least one post along the lines of "I'm usually against the death penalty, but..."

I'm curious as to why she's given greater latitude, that's all. Where are the cries for her execution? Is this a double standard?

[LeftyMom]

20. She's female and attractive.

[Orrex]

21. Surely that couldn't be a factor?!?

:sarcasm:


Didn't Matt Lauer interview her in a cozy living room-like setting?

Quite different from To Catch a Predator, in which the suspects are tackled by half a dozen cops with guns drawn?

[LeftyMom]

22. I think the "thought" process goes like this.

Random Horny Internet Dude: She did what? That's horrible. But I'd still bone her. Wait a minute, if I'd bone her, and teenage boys are notoriously horny, then he must have wanted to bone her too, so he's not a victim, so she's not a predator, so I don't have to feel dirty about the "hot for teacher" fantasies I'm having right now.

[Orrex]

23. Are you sure you're not a dude?

You seem to have the reptilian-brain thing down cold.

[LeftyMom]

25. :pulls waistband out a bit and peeks:

Nope, not a dude.

[Maru Kitteh]

53. Nope

I don't buy that whole "I'm allowed to make reprehensible decisions throughout my adult life because I had a bad childhood" thing. If that held any water my mom would be in the top of a bell tower with an Uzi taking out puppies and nuns RIGHT NOW.

[quiller4]

30. That was true while she was incarcerated. They have had

their children for several years now.

[JSK]

35. Didn't her ex and the kids move to Alaska? n/t

[mitchum]

38. Ex: "What does he have that I don't have?"

Mary Kay: "A ten speed"

[Mike 03]

5. Kick and Rec. Shocking. You also put things into perspective in a way I had not

previously considered.

[omega minimo]

7. Cool. It could be a franchise. How bout "Hot For Cellmate"

-- with dancers in cages?

[Gabi Hayes]

8. anybody read the comments?

Submitted by Uncle Ashtray on Fri, 05/22/2009 - 6:16pm.

I had a really pretty teacher when I was a child. I would give her an apple every day. She would "bob" for it. I kept it in my pants.


>>>>>>>>>>>>

I had a serious crush on Mrs. Paul, my seventh grade French teacher.....she had some blouse/bra combinations that made it very difficult for me to walk up to the chalk board

[Hepburn]

10. Gag me...

...:puke:

[Gabi Hayes]

13. am I cracked, or does he look to be gaining on her, age-wise? in about five years,

he's going to look older than she does

http://lh3.ggpht.com/fisherwy/RyzCaBHS8kI/AAAAAAAAKoU/EHqNs5kJfnY/Mary+Kay+Letourneau+and+Vili+Fualaau%5B2%5D.jpg

[demodonkey]

26. He looks older than she does NOW, IMHO. nt

[Liberal_in_LA]

33. I recall her saying that she 1st noticed him when he was 8 or some outrageously young age

I'm surprised she hasn't moved onto a younger guy by now but maybe they really are in love. <shrug>

[rurallib]

14. This will forever be the finest true life example of chutzpah.

[KittyWampus]

15. This isn't the Mary Kay I was expecting. OY

[walldude]

17. Me either.. was expecting the commandos in the Pink Cadillac's..

[HughBeaumont]

24. Pink Uzis, too.

[Baby Snooks]

41. The real Pink Ladies...

Driving along on the highway of life in their pink Cadillacs. Singing their theme song along with Aretha Franklin spreading their love as the Pink Ladies of Mary Kay. The real Pink Ladies.

"Goin' ridin' on the freeway of love, wind's against our back, goin' ridin' on the freeway of love, in my pink Cadillac..."

[Number23]

52. Oh my God! I LOVED that book!

:rofl: Milo, Opus and Oliver Wendell Holmes!

Ah, thanks for the memories. :)

[Bluebear]

19. Ay caramba, Mary Kay.

[NashVegas]

28. What Do You Want From Them? Seriously.

She went to jail for 7 years, now he's a 20-something adult and gets to make his own romantic decisions.

Should they quietly accept their position as social outcasts and apply for work at gas stations in impoverished communities, and never be heard from again? Will that satisfy people?

[liberalhistorian]

40. No, it won't. People will never leave them alone

and will never believe that they're truly in love, which I firmly believe that they are. They've suffered enough and it's no one's business anymore. And her husband wasn't the nicest person or best husband, either, and I'm tired of his elevation to sainthood.

[tabasco]

49. Leave them alone????

THEY ARE HAVING "HOT FOR TEACHER" EVENTS IN A NIGHTCLUB!

Maybe if they wanted to be left alone they wouldn't be having events in nightclubs, making light of statutory rape.

[eridani]

55. Yes, they are. And it wouldn't have been a problem had LeTourneau had the fucking sense--

--to act like an adult. The story of Frank Butler and Annie Oakley is instructive here. Age 31, he fell in love with the kid who punked him in a shooting contest. He then got the hell out of her life until she was legal. At that point, he came back to see if the feelings were mutual. They were, and they wound up married for more than 50 years.

LeTourneau could have done the same thing. Her intended was obviously willing to wait, and as the adult she had the responsibility for setting that limit.

[NashVegas]

56. Nice Story. Too Bad It's Inaccurate

Depending on what version of history you find, either the match was 1875 and they got married 1 year later, when she was 16, or the match was 1881, and they got married a year later, when she was 22.

[eridani]

57. She had to have been 16,which would have made it legal

Basic lesson is that if an adult is in love with a minor, then s/he needs to have the self-control to wait until the kid is old enough.

[NashVegas]

61. And Would Have Been 15 When They Met

And courted, contrary to original claim he got out of her life.

[nini]

58. would you be ok with a teacher having sex with your child?

She's a pedophile and she's making money off that fact - so she's wide open for criticism.

[lumberjack_jeff]

60. Yeah. You said that before.

Personally, I don't think everyone who doesn't have "the nicest person" as a spouse should get special dispensation.

She's no victim.

[Toucano]

46. I guess I want them to live happily ever after without exploiting a criminal past for profit.

I realize she can't teach, but I don't really need to hear from them again.

For the record, I am happy that they are happy together, but I still see her past actions as seriously misguided, at best.

[NashVegas]

63. In Other Words, They Should Be Social Outcasts Working at Wal-Mart

Because really, that's the only alternative. "Decent" people who do the hiring for well-paying jobs probably wouldn't let either of them set foot in the door.

[H2O Man]

29. She seems cosmetic. n/t

[elizfeelinggreat]

31. blech!

Kind of hard to believe there's a market for this stuff.

[davsand]

32. Has anyone heard what date they scheduled for the Roman Polanski party?

:eyes:



Laura

[BlooInBloo]

36. (shrug) If they're happy, good 'nuff for me.

[mitchum]

37. Deceptive advertising....she is not hot

[Toucano]

44. It says nothing about her being hot.

It is the patron (he/she/you) who is "hot for teacher".


No warranty expressed or implied. Actual results may vary. Side effects include nausea and vomiting.

[Skittles]

50. sick

[applegrove]

51. She's such a sicko. Her poor former family.

[ecstatic]

62. I can't believe he never moved on

She must have caused severe psychological damage in him as a child.

[dysfunctional press]

64. or...

maybe he's just honestly attracted to her.