Will the Mancow video finally end this stupid debate..

[Stuart G]

This one is now out there in the public domain...
Mancow's response is one of a terrorized person. Will this be ended by someone who clearly wanted to prove otherwise? Mancow failed in that goal, but may have really helped this country
in another way. I hope so.

[NRaleighLiberal]

1. No. Truth or Evidence has never meant a thing to the GOP.

[Stuart G]

2. How can they deny it this time?? At this point, they

cannot pull the video, can they?

[Atticus]

13. They don't need to pull the video.

They will simply "redefine" what it shows. The knuckle-draggers on my local discussion board are currently posting "See? No physical harm done! He got up and walked away without any lasting injury---JUST LIKE THEY ALL HAVE!"

Deny it? No, they'll use it.

[DBoon]

22. no, they wil say "those people" are terrorists

and deserve to be tortured

The cruelty of waterboarding wil become its justification

[spanone]

16. they will ignore it.

[ControlledDemolition]

17. The CIA is trying to get the tape destroyed! n/t

[jgraz]

3. That's the thing about stupid debates

The stupidity tends to be persistent.

[ControlledDemolition]

21. Agreed. How the f*ck can there be debate about torture? Let's debate serial killings!!! n/t

[AlCzervik]

4. i doubt, i know who he is but i have never listened to him, my guess is that

it doesn't last more than a newscycle or 2 and if he keeps discusiing it i'm sure the gop will drop his ass right in the grease.

[rpannier]

5. He has a fairly large audience that listens to his show

and I understand his demographics are white males ages 15-30.

He will talk about it all he wants and it's a good thing because his listeners are very devoted and this is the group we need to have targeted -- Young, white males.

on note: Like Charlie Daniels he is a registered Democrat -- for what it's worth.

[WeDidIt]

11. He's a Chicagoan

In Chicago, the REAL elections are the Democratic primaries.

General Elections are just for show in this city.

[EFerrari]

9. Once Mancow and Doug and someone else shut down the bridge

during morning commute hours for some stunt, It nearly got Mancow fired and nearly got all of them banned. Mancow has been practicing to do just this for DECADES.

lol

[foo_bar]

27. it was an anti-Clinton stunt

Mancow's most infamous bit came in 1993, a few days after celebrity stylist Christophe had given President Bill Clinton a $200 haircut aboard Air Force One at L.A. International Airport. It had been widely (and incorrectly) reported that other landings and take-offs at the airport had been restricted while Christophe perfected Clinton's coiffure, so Mancow, then working at a San Francisco station, concocted this stunt cum political statement:

Mancow and his then-sidekick Chuy "Chewy" Gomez drove onto the Bay Bridge, the double-decked freeway that connects San Francisco to Oakland. Then, at the height of the morning rush hour, they stopped the radio station's van in traffic while Gomez got a haircut. The traffic jam was enormous, and while the haircut only took a few minutes, traffic was clogged on the bridge for the rest of the morning and into the afternoon. The radio station was sued, and ended up paying more than a million dollars. Mancow became nationally famous, and locally both beloved and despised.

http://www.nndb.com/people/462/000022396/

In 1993, Mancow made national headlines while working for radio station KYLD-FM in California. At the time, former President Clinton had tied up traffic on an LAX runway for over an hour because of a haircut on Air Force One. Mancow staged a parody of this incident on the San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge during rush hour. He used vans to block the westbound lanes of the bridge while his sidekick, Jesus "Chuy" Gomez, got a haircut. As a result of this publicity stunt, Mancow was prosecuted and given three years probation, fined $500, and ordered by a San Francisco Municipal Court judge to perform 100 hours of community service. The radio station eventually paid $1.5 million to settle a lawsuit filed by a bridge commuter.

http://www.mancow.com/pg/jsp/general/bio.jsp

[Tangerine LaBamba]

6. Did you hear Keith Olbermann?

He was contacted by someone from Mancow's staff, asking if he'd offered ten thousand dollars to Hannity if he'd be waterboarded. KO said, no, he'd offered Hannity a thousand dollars a second while he was waterboarded, but after Mancow did what he did, KO is donating ten thousand dollars to an Iraq veterans' organization - Mancow's choice - and Mancow is going to be a guest on KO's show on Monday.

Then, in a beautiful bit of dissing, Keith said to Hannity that his offer was withdrawn,and he, Hannity, was now irrelevant. Or something like that.

It was art.

And things have changed all of a sudden because a rightwingnut radio host from Chicago - who, it was revealed AFTER he was waterboarded - had drowned as a child and had to be resuscitated, did what he did and now is a hero.

Of the left.

Things have changed, and now it'll get REALLY interesting, I suspect .....................

[eleny]

7. they'll try not to talk about it

[Stuart G]

10. Not talking about it is all that they can do.

I believe that anyone fair minded, anywhere in this country, knows this is all over.
Cheney, get a good lawyer,...no, I hope he has a bad one.

[eleny]

25. Another thought...

I wouldn't be surprised if they say that Mancow didn't have his mouth covered with cloth as we've seen in other demonstrations. He got water poured directly into his mouth. So he got it worse.

I won't say "mark my words". But I wouldn't be surprised if Hannity grabbed at straws.

[ZombieHorde]

8. In case people here wish to see it. nt

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMa53mnmRCw

[Traveling_Home]

12. And we have done this to more than 25,000 ...

of our own troops as part of their survival training (SERE).

They were tortured. NO DOUBT. Are any of the Anti-war Vet groups starting to raise this issue. Service-Connected Compensation.

Can they sue the Govt? Holder said they weren't totured 'cause there was no intent to cause harm.

I DON'T BUY IT^!!!

[merh]

14. No, they will blame his near death by drowning as a child

as a trauma that caused him to react differently than the average person.

They will say he was too sensitive or weak.

They have excuses for everything (especially those that like to claim they are vets who went through the SERE program).

Hell they ignore Jesse Ventura when he states without a doubt that it is torture despite the fact that he was waterboarded in SERE training.

[OneGrassRoot]

15. I highly doubt it, because of one glaring fact:

What people tend to forget about the Limbaugh/Faux/Palin crowd is that THEY DON'T CARE IF IT IS TORTURE.

The detainees are all THE BAD GUYS. If they are bestowed civil rights, that is repulsive to the right-wingers.

They don't consider that some of the detainees may be innocent, they don't consider how unreliable and effective this is, they don't consider how waterboarding escalates into rape and murder, and they aren't considering how OUR mistreatment of prisoners puts OUR OWN military, and our country, in greater jeopardy.

THEY. DON'T. CARE.

It's us against them, in their mind. The detainees are muslim, they were caught by the "good guys," and they deserve whatever they get.

Life is very black and white for them. Literally.

[TexasObserver]

18. One time, he lasted five seconds. THAT is the basis of KSM's "confessions."

Bush or Cheney probably wouldn't last that long, yet they used this torture, which was most often used to get people to confess to things they haven't done.

It works if you work it!!

[Warpy]

19. No, because stupid people will just see a guy with a cloth on his face

and another guy pouring water on him. Lacking empathy of any type, they won't be able to wrap their little pin heads around the fact that the water was going up his nose and down the back of his throat and making him feel suffocated.

They'll claim he's on the take from the evil liberals or something.

[samsingh]

20. reality hit him in the face

[JI7]

23. Lawrence O'Donnell said Hannity tells his listeners that we found WMDs

that there are certain people who would just refuse to accept or listen to evidence.

[Stuart G]

24. I heard that and I think that

if enough people actually see this video, then no matter what Hannity or anyone says, the debate is over for good. But, you must see this video. It reminds me of the Holocaust deniers. They haven't seen the film, "Night and Fog" Watch that 32 minute film, no denying. Watch this 6 minute video, and the debate might just be over. Let the prosecutions begin..

[rustydog]

26. He wasn't "walled" first, or slapped prior, or genitals slashed

He got to lay on a stretcher with his legs elevated and he was completely unrestrained.
The tough-talking pussy was able to jump up after 6 unrestrained seconds and, I give him this, he admitted it was torture.

My question is: How many American soldiers have they "decapitated"? Mancow claimed they cut heads off , we pour water on their face.

Did pulling that comment out of his ass hurt as much as the water on the face?