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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 01:20 PM Original message |
"War is Just a Racket" Excerpt from a speech delivered in 1933 by General Smedley Butler, USMC. |
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kentuck
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Sun May-24-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. Aren't we fighting for one of these right now? |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. How many Afghanis and Iraqis have mounted armed attacks against our shores? |
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kentuck
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Sun May-24-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I was talking about our Bill of Rights... |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. My apologies then. However, I don't see any armed combat taking place in defense of |
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kentuck
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Sun May-24-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Here is a sentence from his speech: |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I believe General Butler's "we" specifically refers to the armed forces. |
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kentuck
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Sun May-24-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. I think he was talking as a civilian? |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. He was talking about his time in the military, and what the military does. |
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kentuck
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Sun May-24-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Yes, but he couldn't say it until he was out of the military. |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. "Obviously, we are not communicating here." True, that. |
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nichomachus
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Mon May-25-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
57. Yes, against our own government |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun May-24-09 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
3. The most insulting thing about it is that the bosses tell the victims it's for their own good. |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. The victims, of course, understand differently... (nt) |
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Jackpine Radical
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Mon May-25-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
58. Sadly, the victims often don't understand differently. |
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scarletwoman
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Mon May-25-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I was thinking of the direct victims of our "interventions" -- the Haitians, the Somalis, |
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Jackpine Radical
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Mon May-25-09 06:16 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I always think of Nixon classifying the fact that he was bombing Cambodia. |
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scarletwoman
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Mon May-25-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Heh. |
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Orsino
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Sun May-24-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. Second most insulting thing: |
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dgibby
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Sun May-24-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. This should be required reading for everyone in the country. |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #5 |
15. I agree. I've been posting this essay on DU every year since 2001. (nt) |
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Greyhound
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Sun May-24-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. One of Nation's greatest heroes and I'll bet not one person ever even heard his name in school. |
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cascadiance
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Mon May-25-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
41. Yep, we're paying the price for not having Smedley Butler in our high school history books! |
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Moderator
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Mon May-25-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #5 |
63. There are many great documents that should be required reading... |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. Kicking for Memorial Day. |
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Uncle Joe
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Sun May-24-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
8. Off to the greatest pages. |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:18 PM Original message |
Thank YOU for your support! (nt) |
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Bigmack
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Sun May-24-09 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. Don't forget Gen. Shoup.... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad
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Sun May-24-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. He was commandant when I was wasting my 4 years. |
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Bigmack
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Sun May-24-09 07:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Yup... 1960-63... |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. That's the thing -- we DON'T keep "our dirty, bloody, dollar soaked fingers out of the business of |
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Karenina
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Sun May-24-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. And here come Afghanistan and Pakistan! |
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Wednesdays
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Sun May-24-09 02:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Thank you. (nt) |
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L. Coyote
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Sun May-24-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
19. "My mental faculties remained in suspended animation while I obeyed the orders" |
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WCGreen
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Sun May-24-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
21. We use to call kids who were out of step with the main stream a Smedley... |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. That's very interesting. I never heard of that - of course, I never heard of Gen. Butler either, |
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Gonzo Gardener
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Sun May-24-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
22. K&R |
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Posteritatis
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Sun May-24-09 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
24. People like Butler are far, far, *far* too obscure these days |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 09:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. He most certainly was effectively erased from our history -- down the Memory Hole. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun May-24-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Smedley also exposed an assassiantion plot against FDR by TPB/corps/elites . .. |
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scarletwoman
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Mon May-25-09 05:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Yes -- more hidden history. You'd think the revelation of a plot to assassinate a president would be |
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ConcernedCanuk
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Sun May-24-09 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
25. USA's prime movers would be happy - USA is doing exactly what they wanted to do |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. It's abundantly clear that our government is owned by the Owners. (nt) |
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chill_wind
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Sun May-24-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
29. K & R. I never tire of hearing the hard biting truth. |
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scarletwoman
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Sun May-24-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Thank you. There are far too many people in this country who prefer to avoid or deny the truth. |
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Gregorian
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Sun May-24-09 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
36. Wow. I am so glad I found this thread. |
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scarletwoman
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Mon May-25-09 06:24 AM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I'm glad you're glad. I'm sorry, though, that you feel like giving up -- and I also understand. |
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defendandprotect
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Sun May-24-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
38. Thank you for posting this in full... |
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Octafish
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Mon May-25-09 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
39. There should be a Smedley Butler Society. |
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1776Forever
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Mon May-25-09 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
40. Unfortunetly this proves it more then ever "Shooters say Blackwater Supplied Guns" |
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destes
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Mon May-25-09 07:01 AM Response to Reply #40 |
48. With "old west" chivalry it's guiding light........ |
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dipsydoodle
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Mon May-25-09 03:24 AM Response to Original message |
42. K & R |
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Agony
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Mon May-25-09 06:20 AM Response to Original message |
44. K & R ! |
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scarletwoman
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Mon May-25-09 06:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Thank you. (nt) |
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pleah
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Mon May-25-09 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
47. K&R |
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lxlxlxl
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Mon May-25-09 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
49. I wonder how many other countries armies have their own Butler's |
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spooked911
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Mon May-25-09 09:10 AM Response to Original message |
50. full essay -- all 5 chapters-- here |
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scarletwoman
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Mon May-25-09 05:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
66. Thank you for posting that link. (nt) |
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snot
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Mon May-25-09 09:22 AM Response to Original message |
51. awesome post. sorry i'm too late to rec. |
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glitch
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Mon May-25-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. You're not, I just did (about 30 minutes left) :) |
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mod mom
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Mon May-25-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
52. Smedley Butler exposed the coup against FDR (elitists including Prescott bu$h): |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Mon May-25-09 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
53. Whenever I hear some naive young person talk about joining the military |
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Honeycombe8
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Mon May-25-09 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
54. I hate to see that in writing, but it seems to be true. |
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Mechatanketra
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Mon May-25-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
69. I think it works the other way around. |
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applejuice
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Mon May-25-09 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
55. K & R ! |
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femrap
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Mon May-25-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
56. I always carry my |
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Dangerously Amused
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Mon May-25-09 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
59. Thank you for posting this. |
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RedCloud
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Mon May-25-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. Smedley Butler vs. Ollie North |
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troubledamerican
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Mon May-25-09 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
62. We have a modern Smedley Butler. His name is John Perkins. "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" |
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G_j
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Mon May-25-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. great book! |
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