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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:40 AM
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Triple distilled batshit insanity... courtesy of The Weekly Standard
I haven't read anything quite this completely, foaming-at-the-mouth irrational in a considerable length of time, if ever.

http://weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/016/533narty.asp

The Worst Thing About Gay Marriage
It isn't going to work.
by Sam Schulman
06/01/2009, Volume 014, Issue 35

There is a new consensus on gay marriage: not on whether it should be legalized but about the motives of those of us who oppose it. All agree that any and all opposition to gay marriage is explained either by biblical literalism or anti-homosexual bigotry. This consensus is brilliantly constructed to be so unflattering to those of us who will vote against gay marriage--if we are allowed to do so--that even biblical literalists and bigots are scrambling out of the trenches and throwing down their weapons.

But I think that the fundamental objection to gay marriage among most who oppose it has very little to do with one's feelings about the nature of homosexuality or what the Bible has to say about sodomy. The obstacle to wanting gay marriage is instead how we use and depend on marriage itself--and how little marriage, understood completely, affects or is relevant to gay people in love. Gay marriage is not so much wrong as unnecessary. But if it comes about, it will not be gay marriage that causes the harm I fear, as what will succeed its inevitable failure.

<...>

The entity known as "gay marriage" only aspires to replicate a very limited, very modern, and very culture-bound version of marriage. Gay advocates have chosen wisely in this. They are replicating what we might call the "romantic marriage," a kind of marriage that is chosen, determined, and defined by the couple that enters into it. Romantic marriage is now dominant in the West and is becoming slightly more frequent in other parts of the world. But it is a luxury and even here has only existed (except among a few elites) for a couple of centuries--and in only a few countries. The fact is that marriage is part of a much larger institution, which defines the particular shape and character of marriage: the kinship system.


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More rabid wingnuttia at the link..





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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:54 AM
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1. It's like they are throwing darts hoping to find one that will stick
but no matter what theory they advance it is like there is a guy in the background shouting "I'm a homophobe. I'm a homophobe."
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angstlessk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 07:57 AM
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2. so, this guy is in favor of arranged marriages and chastity belts?
does this man not understand the concept of modern? sounds like he misses the 16th century?
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:02 AM
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3. Prime example

Of a SHORT-CIRCUIT of the mind, trying desperately to stem the tide of change.
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Sinistrous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:03 AM
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4. Reading this piece, I pictured the anti-gay-marriage movement
hanging to a rocky outcrop by its fingernails, just before falling into the abyss.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:03 AM
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5. Hengst and Horsa say...
Huh?


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Stevenmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:04 AM
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6. Well if we are to belive Sam's ramblings
Then we should make fertility testing mandatory in order to get a marriage license, this should eliminate a good deal of heterosexual couples from entering into a, God forbid, "romantic marriage".

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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:07 AM
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7. Well, for millennia, going back at least to the Greeks...
marriage had little or no romantic component-- it was simply to certify paternity and was usually arranged. This silliness of getting married because you're in love is a recent invention and hasn't been working all that well, except for divorce lawyers. And when it does work, it's more a matter of chance than choice.

If I had my way, we'd just do away with the whole marrige/civil union thing as a matter of law and leave it to the churches. The legal ramifications now dealt with in marriage can be dealt with in contract law.

But, I can't have my way so the rest of you feel free to continue to fight about it.




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bread_and_roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 09:42 AM
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9. Personally, I wish the entire institution would follow the divinity of kings,
the Shakers, and other failed experiments in social organization into the dustbin of history, along with the nuclear family. I'll get my wish, I think, but not till after I'm gone. Meantime, at least get rid of ridiculous discrimination and oppression in the matter.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-25-09 08:08 AM
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8. He is correct in one sense, my family has been in this country since the 1720's
My grandfather was disowned by his father for not marrying into the family he wanted him to.

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