Every time a Rethug claims drowing is not torture....

[HardWorkingDem]

the idiot should be asked to subject themselves to such an act.

Someone in TV land needs to point black ask asses like Hannity and Cheney that if they think this crap is not torture, then will they allow it to be done on them.


Oh, and as for Rumsfeld and his margin writing that he stands for hours a day - talk to anyone in the military and ask them what it is like to stand at a position of attention or Parade Rest for a long time. Standing and being able to move is one thing, but being forced to stand in the same position and not move is something else entirely.

[rustydog]

1. When Rummy falters in his standing..Is he "walled" ?

were his testicles sliced with razors? Is he tied to a board after being "softened", a wet rag placed over his face and GALLONS of water poured over his face to "simulate" drowning? Is he given a toy cow to throw to stop the Enhancement?

If not, the pussy has no idea what torture is. and neither does any human being who claims waterboarding is not torture.

Explain to them they are way off base and refuse to debate it. we charged others with war crimes for waterboarding American troops,. it is torture period. It doesn't matter what you rename it, it doesn't matter if you sing "Amazing Grace during it, it is still torture and it is WRONG no how many lives are saved in Episode five of 24!

[Canuckistanian]

2. Exactly

"Standing for 8 hours a day" is not the same as "Standing for 8 hours while shackled, hooded, soaking wet and naked in a freezing room while being threatened with ANOTHER beating if you move"

The Geneva Convetion is clear. Clear as day. You DO NOT subject a prisoner to ANY discomfort. Period.