I Propose "Prop Two" for California - Outlawing Adultery and Divorce

[Stephanie]

Marriage is between a man and a woman, exclusively, for life. It's in the Bible. I propose Prop Two, a California Ballot Initiative, to criminalize adultery and divorce. Because:

Mark 10:11,12 He answered, "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her. And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."

Rom 7:2-3 "For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man."

1Cor 7:39 A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives.

Luke 16:18b The man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

1Cor 7:10-11 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.

NIV, Exodus 20:14 You shall not commit adultery.

NIV, Proverbs 6:32 But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself.

NAS, Luke 18:18-20) And a certain ruler questioned Him, saying, "Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?" And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone. You know the commandments, 'Do not commit adultery, do not murder, do not steal, do not bear false witness, honor your father and mother.'"

How many signatures do we need to get it on the ballot?

[msongs]

1. most christian cults endorse and support divorce n adultery nt

[Stephanie]

9. It doesn't matter what they want, it's in the Bible.

We can't selectively apply Biblical law, everyone must obey!

[truedelphi]

13. Good points you make. And Jesus himself only mentioned divorce - never

Once did he mention homosexuality.

"What God has joined together, let no man put asunder."

[nichomachus]

16. I think you got it bass ackward

He never mentioned homosexuality and only mentioned divorce once.

However, he did come out in favor of insider trading and embezzlement -- so, go for it.

[truedelphi]

21. I said "Never once" (Re: homosexuality) though the words were split

Sorry if you didn't catch that.

[Dappleganger]

2. We heteros have done a damn good job

of destroying marriage on our own, that's for sure!

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[Stephanie]

4. Equal Protection Under the Law!

If some people in CA have to live under Biblical dictates, then all people should have to.

[ldf]

7. and your point is???

:grr:

[Cleita]

10. My point is that many of us including me didn't vote for Prop. 8 so why

do you want to punish us? Remember the equal rights amendment years ago that Reagan struck down? No one, other than feminist women, seemed to be all upset, including gay men, that he did that. If we brought the ERA back it would cover not only women and minorities but gays too. Maybe it's time to strike the bigoted, xenophobic RW where it will hurt them, permanently, while we have a bi-racial President who is sensitive to these issues. Also, be careful what you wish for. Not being able to end a marriage that didn't work out is a very unpleasant situation regardless of your sexual orientation. I know. I was born in a country that forbids divorce. I don't want to go into a bunch of personal family history here but some of the ramifications extended far beyond the married couples in question.

[The_Casual_Observer]

5. Might as well try & outlaw stupidity & ignorance too while you are at it.

But the prisons are overflowing as it is.

[Stephanie]

6. Stupidity and Ignorance are not banned by the Bible

Far from it.

[and-justice-for-all]

8. Just ban ALL marriage...

if we ALL can not get married if we so choose, then no one should..nt

[Cleita]

11. I'm all for that and put laws in place that address individual rights and

partnership rights. If the religiosos want a marriage ceremony, let them do it in their churches with no ties to the government. This way gay friendly churches could perform ceremonies without any government interference for cultural and commitment reasons.

[and-justice-for-all]

30. Agreed...nt

[Hepburn]

12. I think that Prop II outlawing divorce should ONLY apply to any voter who...

...voted YES on Prop H8. They want defense of marriage? Then take away their right to divorce.

:hi:

[merh]

14. I support your ballot

No divorce and adultery as a crime.

We must protect the sanctity of marriage.

[Stephanie]

17. The sanctity of marriage is exactly what we are defending!

The right to happiness be damned!

[merh]

19. Which comedian was it that said he supported gay marriage

because the gays have the right to be miserable too?

[cagesoulman]

15. I'm for outlawing marriage period.

Let's just have civil unions with a 5-year expiration date. Every five years you get to reevaluate your decision. The state determines child support percentages from both bio-parents' income, and joint custody is always law, except in cases of documented abuse.

[Horse with no Name]

18. I support Stoning as well

:smoke:

[Canuckistanian]

20. Oh and ban shellfish, too

And farmers who grow two crops in one field.

And people who don't observe the Sabbath. Which is rightly on Saturdays.

if CA is going to observe religious wingnuttery, they can't leave out ANY of "Leviticus's Greatest Hits"

[merh]

22. one of my favorite West Wing moments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHaVUjjH3EI&feature=related

[Control-Z]

34. Geez. You just put me off track

watching West Wing clips. What a great show that was.

[merh]

35. I love that show

when I went looking for that clip I spent too much time watching all the clips I could find.

Maybe I need to let my family know that the dvd collection would be a gift that would make me very happy.

(is is out on dvd?)

[Control-Z]

36. Now, that WOULD be a great gift!

I would love to have the entire DVD collection. (Though, I don't know that it's out on DVD. Seems like it would be, though.)

Edit: Had to go look. It is on DVD, and Overstock has the full collection!

http://www.overstock.com/Books-Movies-Music-Games/West-Wing-The-Complete-Series-Collection-DVD/2096139/product.html?cid=123620&fp=F&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=10382117

[merh]

37. now I had to go look

it's cheaper at Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/West-Wing-Complete-Collection/dp/B000HC2LI0

[demodonkey]

29. And Cheeseburgers. No Cheeseburgers allowed. nt

[woo me with science]

31. And masturbation.

Of course, we will need ways of monitoring and enforcing.

[Politicalboi]

39. Yes we should

LOL! Cut off the favored hand as enforcement. LOL!

[Bucky]

41. Hold it! Get a grip on yourself!

[Ignis]

38. Ban mixed fibers!

Poly-cotton blend, I rebuke thee! :rofl:

[ColbertWatcher]

23. I say make them vote against their Savior: vote to put Jesus in the pledge.

Fuck these people.

[bridgit]

24. Welcome to California ~

[EFerrari]

25. Can we please wait until MY divorce is final?! Please!

lol

[bridgit]

27. psst

:)

[ConsAreLiars]

26. Well, you already have Catholics, Mormons, Evangelicals Fundies, many Hindus and Muslims and

Orthodox Jews, and probably some Buddhists, Sikhs and even atheist misogynists and assorted other crazies on your side. Be careful what you ask for.

(edit typo)

[bridgit]

28. "atheist misogynists"? So...you know my X? Tell him the order remains in effect

:kick:

[TexasObserver]

32. Agreed! Protect marriage. Reinstate the death penalty for adultery.

It is ironic that those who say they want to protect marriage never consider outlawing divorce, or making it harder to get married.

[BR_Parkway]

33. Prop 3 - Mormons cannot ride bicycles - there's other means of

transportation available to them, so creating this one narrow restriction isn't really a big thing.

It's entirely in keeping with the wording of the ruling yesterday

[Bucky]

40. While you're at it, California should outlaw nonfertile marriages.

if you ain't crankin' out the young'uns, you ain't got a real marriage.

[Stephanie]

42. Outlaw marriage for people over 40!

[Bucky]

44. No, just women.

I know this sounds bad, but there's a little bit of "Ed McMahon" in all of us dudes.

[Taverner]

43. Yeah, that'll show them!

:eyes:

Seriously, how about a Proposition making Prop H8 null and void instead?