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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:22 PM Original message |
A public option will not include dental, eye care, mental health |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Paul Wellstone Mental Health Parity Act, passed in Oct. 2008, would ensure |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I have not heard any mention of these items being covered in |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I have no idea if they'd be covered or not, with the exception of mental health, |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You are correct that there are no details, the only thing we know |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. That's true, for better or for worse. nt |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:00 PM Response to Reply #10 |
34. I hope you're right - or they're going to have |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. I can live without dental and eye care.. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Maybe they'll find some way to cover these as well??? nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Really? If you can't see to drive or work and |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I meant I can live without it being part of National Healthcare. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. What about the poor people who don't have the income to supplement?n/t |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. You have a point there. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. How? |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. Do European and Canadian plans include dental? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. Not Canadian. At least in BC |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm ok with baby steps - the insurance I have through my employer |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Problem is I doubt this will be revisted anytime soon and some |
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Thickasabrick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I agree and dental and mental are really important but I keep |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. toothless, blind and crazy is no way to go through life, son n/t |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. :))) nt |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
7. Of course not because it has already divided us into two classes. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Unless we're forced to carry it like car insurance. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Even then people go without. In the Massachusetts plan, which is what is |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Yes it has, unless the public option is extremely strong we will |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. Do you need dental or eye? |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. I know that it is already part of HR 676 and maybe they intend |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. I wasn't aware HR 676 included it |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
39. I'm sure there would be some limits, but as it stands now |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Hm...good luck with that. :) |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
44. Yeah, ideally it would all be covered by a public option |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. I agree that these items are not the reason people lose their homes |
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MaraJade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
20. No one in Washington cares. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. Rather obvious that no one cared when they limited the discussion |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. so because you can't get everything at once you'd prefer that i have nothing? EOM |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. You can blame those who will not even allow discussion of SPHC. |
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eyesroll (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. Why would single payer necessarily include any of that? |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. It wouldn't |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. As it is proposed now single-payer includes these items... |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
25. what have they got against mental health? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. They don't. Last October, they passed a law as part of the first bailout/stimulus bill |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. yes |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. The brain is just another organ of the body |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. I have single-payer HC. It does NOT cover dental, eye-care or mental health |
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WillowTree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #28 |
43. Apparently it's all-or-nothing-at-all from Day One for this crowd. |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
45. It might be that these items were initially included in the proposal |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-29-09 12:01 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Yeah, imagine if there was just at least a public discussion about this |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-29-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. At least you are in Canada, here is a report by FAIR on the media |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
40. I thought Obama wanted all Americans to have the same access to health |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-28-09 11:26 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I would imagine that they do and yes that was what Obama said |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-29-09 12:14 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. ..."access" being the key word here |
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