Why does our side ALWAYS find some need to apologize when the RW attacks us?

[Stinky The Clown]

Sometimes a good, strong "Fuck You" is **exactly** the right answer.

But we never seem to quite do that. We're always trying to get those rat fuckers to be nice to us.

THEY WILL NEVER BE NICE TO US.

Geeeeze .......

[katty]

1. agree!! and more of that!

[ColbertWatcher]

2. Apparently, we have a limited number of apologies and a certain number are reserved for GOPers. n/t

[SoCalDem]

3. If you do not attack, and the other side does, you have two choices

defense
ignore it

If they ignore it, our wonderful media accepts the right wing smear as gawd's honest truth

if they fight back, they are always in a defense posture,a nd that same media says "why so touchy"?

Offense is where most of the points are scored..in sports and in politics..

[Stinky The Clown]

Good points, all ...... but we're even crappier at offense!

We're winning right now because the right wing is self-destructing. Not because we did anything. The slide is still the direct fallout from the worst president in American history's reign of stupidity.

[Bonn1997]

23. I fear that there's a lot of truth to that. I think some Democrats have gotten better at being tough

and Obama can do it well sometimes. They party still has a lot to learn about fighting for what you believe in IMO, though.

[FiveGoodMen]

8. "Offense is where most of the points are scored..in sports and in politics"

And the right has given us plenty of ammunition to go on the offense.

But...we just don't.

And it's getting harder, because criticizing the policies of the former admin increasingly runs the risk of slamming the current admin in the process.

[Bonn1997]

22. There's always a third option...

Attack back (and put them on the defense). Every time I hear Pat Buchanan talk about the nomination, I want the liberal guest to say something like, "I realize nothing would make you happier, Pat, then to have 9 wealthy, white, Christian men on the Supreme Court."

[DJ13]

4. Because our side is infiltrated by the same moneyed interests as the GOP

Its like two siblings fighting, and our side has leaders who are the weaker siblings.

[Echo In Light]

5. Bingo

[Fumesucker]

29. Exactamundo.

Most of our side believes much the same thing as the other side, they just sugar coat it a bit more.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

6. "Our" side isn't even in the game.

:think:

[abq e streeter]

7. I demand an apology for this post ! ( hey somebody had to say it)

:sarcasm: ( just in case its actually needed)

[ejpoeta]

9. the same way they buckle and give in over everything. it's sickening.

get a damned spine!

[lonestarlib]

10. Yes! Yes! Yes!

[Golden Raisin]

11. We take the "high road".

They kick their opponents hard in the balls. We're morally upright but sing soprano and limp.

[Mike 03]

12. I love your posts, Stinky.

:yourock:

[QueenOfCalifornia]

13. Dear Stinky,

I agree.

I am tired of the same shit...

And Tweety can go fuck himself for saying "Cheeeeeney"

[mtnester]

14. I can only assume you got outraged over something you heard Robert Gibbs say

because I sure did, I was screaming at the radio going "no no no don't fucking sell that out you asswipe, stop DON'T DO IT PLEASE" ......too late:

GIBBS: I, I have not talked specifically with her about this, but I think that, I think she's say that, that her word choice in 2001, was, was, poor. <...>

Q: In the 2001, speech, she said because of her experience, she would come to a better conclusion, which to some people ...

GIBBS: Well, Major, that's why I started this by saying I think if she had the speech to do all over again, I think she'd change that word.

Q: How do you know that?

GIBBS: In discussions with people. Thanks, guys!


If that was my press secretary, at the very least he would not be able to walk for days, and depending on how good I was with my breathing technique, he very possibly vcould be asked for his resignation.

Stupid stupid stupid


Now, if this is not what this OP is about, then sorry everyone, otherwise, rant stands!

[Stinky The Clown]

20. To be honest, that wasn't the inspiration ..... I hadn't even heard that before

But it sure does underscore the point, doesn't it?

See, here's the thing. We won the election. We get to choose. They get to shut the fuck up.

At least that's how I see.

In line with the sentiments of that great stander-upper, Natalie Mains: I ain't ready to make nice-nice.

[mtnester]

27. I see the dilemma too

add it to your list

:)

[malaise]

15. 100% correct n/t

[anaxarchos]

16. Lannie Davis... again... n/t

[armyowalgreens]

17. We do so because we are naturally more empathetic and caring.

It's an inevitable result of our ideologies. We actually give a shit about humanity so we often choose to "be nice" to people who deserve nothing but hatred.

[Jade Fox]

18. It drives me nuts!

I think the apologizers believe they can out-nice the opposition.

You can be nice to bullies and fear mongers. They rub your face in it.

[Enrique]

19. Obama likes winning and knows how to do it

sometimes apologizing leads to winning.

[Stinky The Clown]

21. Uuuuhhhhh ..... okay

I didn't think we were talking about that .... but yeah ... sure.

:shrug:

[Lydia Leftcoast]

24. Hell, yes! Never apologize for telling the truth

A Democrat says something mildly insulting about a Republican, even if it's true, and the right-wing noise machine goes into overdrive. You'd think that Democrat was the most evil, foul-mouthed person in the world.

Then the Democrat apologizes.

And the Republican strategists toast each other in their club rooms.

Because apologies are for when you've actually done something wrong. By apologizing, the Democrat is saying that the Republicans have the right to control what they say.

The most infuriating example was the manufactured rage over the Paul Wellstone memorial service. Because a grieving friend urged the crowd to vote Democratic, because a small section of the audience booed some of the Republicans in attendance, people who had never seen the actual service (I saw the whole 3 hours on C-Span, and several DUers were there in person) were encouraged to feel indignant and right-wing columnists wrote screeds.

And most frustrating of all, the DFL (the Dems in MN are the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party) apologized.

This was wrong on two counts. First of all, the memorial service wasn't planned by the DFL; it was planned by the surviving family members and campaign staffers. The DFL had no authority to apologize.

Second, by apologizing the DFL tacitly accepted the assertion that there was something wrong with talking politics at the memorial service for a politician.

I wonder how that election might have gone had the DFL come out like this: "Hey, Republicans, have you no decency? How DARE you criticize how someone else chooses to mourn? How DARE you take a few remarks in a three-hour event out of context? You wouldn't be doing that for sneaky, underhanded propaganda purposes, would you? Apologize? Hell, no! Just the opposite! The next time one of our DFL people dies, the memorial service is going to be even more political!"

Yes, if what you have said is true, the only proper response to Republican feigned indignation is, "I stand by what I said. If the shoe fits, wear it."

[EFerrari]

25. It's unreal. And it leads to firming up their alternate "reality".

I'm all for admitting a mistake but admitting a mistake where there is none is crazy making.

[tavalon]

26. I assume you mean Congressional Democrats when you say "Our side"

and the problem is simple. It's the abused spouse syndrome. They think if they just apologize this time, the GOP will finally stop beating the crap out of them. It never works but when you're that close to the abuse, it's hard to see the big picture.

Congress (the Dems, at least) needs an intervention and a safe house.

I don't see anyone here playing nice to the GOP. We see them as the monsters they have become and tell them so, often happily and with some glee.

[backscatter712]

28. Damn straight.

We should not have apologized to them. They see apology as weakness and pounce on it.

[blindpig]

30. First question: Who is us?

Are those so-called representatives 'us'? I'd say not, they are 'them'.

That clarifies the situation considerably.

[Kablooie]

31. It bothered me that Sotomeyer apologized to for the words she used.