If you could personally host/house a Gitmo detainee, would you?

[Truthiness Inspector]

If so, why?

If not, why not?

[annm4peace]

1. Yes

[Truthiness Inspector]

4. Ok, why? n/t

[FreakinDJ]

2. You smokin that shit again

[Teaser]

3. No, but I don't like anyone, and I certainly don't want other people in my house

I wouldn't house my mother. Much less some stranger.

[Truthiness Inspector]

5. Ok, would you like your next door neighbor to house a detainee? n/t

[Teaser]

12. Sure why not. I lived next door to someone paroled for manslaughter.

He made a hell of a casserole.

[Truthiness Inspector]

16. So your answer is yes, you would have a Gitmo detainee in your neighborhood

[armyowalgreens]

19. Were they cleared of charges or what? Give us something to work with!

[Teaser]

41. sure. sounds kinda fun.

.

[csziggy]

7. Ditto - I can barely stand having my hubby around

And I do love that man.

[Justitia]

67. hahaha....Amen! I adore my husband, but he is seriously invading my space - LOL. -eom

[Justitia]

66. LOL. Totally get it. :) -eom

[slackmaster]

6. Are you out of your fucking mind?

I don't mean that as a personal attack or anything, but really, WTF are you talking about?

[Truthiness Inspector]

10. It's a simple question. What don't you understand? n/t

[armyowalgreens]

8. It depends.

I'm not going to be naive and think that all of them are harmless. But I'd house someone that was found not guilty of any charges.

[Retired AF Dem]

78. Have you kept up with the news though the years?

Being found not guilty dont mean shit.

[armyowalgreens]

80. To me, it means a whole lot more than being found guilty.

I'd be willing to risk having a terrorist in my home. I'd be willing to sacrifice my life in order to show the person that Americans are not all hate filled bigots.

But that's just me. I've gone through a lot and have lost a certain amount of that "need to live" feeling that most feel. I'd be perfectly okay with dying tomorrow as long as I was trying my best to lead a good life and help people. I don't know if that's good or bad. I just know that's how I am.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

9. A detainee awaiting trial?

[LooseWilly]

11. It would really depend on how I reacted to a given detainee in person.

Then again, a 1 bedroom apartment can be a little tight with 3 people... and just because a detainee isn't guilty of terrorism... doesn't mean that he or she isn't an asshole.

Give me a 4 bedroom house free and clear here in the SF Bay Area... and I'll host friggin Sheik Khalid Mohammed.

[madeline_con]

14. "... doesn't mean that he or she isn't an asshole." Good point. n/t

[LooseWilly]

24. Hehe...

... funny thing is, I bet I'd choose most of the detainees before some of the people I've run across who've never been accused of being terrorists.

[madeline_con]

28. Most Muslims I've known are very nice people.

They'd make wonderful houseguests. This is from personal experience of being a houseguest of theirs. :)

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[LooseWilly]

61. When I think of the detainees, I think of the guys I knew driving a cab.

I feel confident that most of them were just caught up in shit... rather than being planners and whatnot. Though, after time driving a cab, I'd want a chance to talk to any given detainee to get a "feel". I'm betting that most of the ex-detainees or ex-detainees to be would be cool with anyone who can appreciate their point of view... so I'd guess I'd be ok with 70% of them at least.


;-)

[rwheeler31]

13. Personally I think this is a stupid ?.

[Truthiness Inspector]

18. Why is it a stupid question?

[Hissyspit]

27. What the hell does it have to do with anything?

Besides right-wing talking points?

[Starry Messenger]

15. He'd have to be a small one.

My couch isn't that big. You don't say the duration of time, so I say sure, why not. Could be interesting.

[flvegan]

17. No. I can't provide the level of security that is deserved

a person that should be on trial in the US for charges against them that landed them in Gitmo, nor can I provide the security to protect the citizens of America against a potential terrorist threat as has been determined by the folks that condemned folks to Gitmo in the first place.

[Truthiness Inspector]

25. A very reasonable answer.

Thank you.

I realized today that the combined population of Afghanistan and Iraq is approximately 61 MILLION. Only 200+ detainees are at Gitmo. They were not picked up and detained by accident. They were doing something very special, in a bad way, to be the micro-percentage of the "chosen few".

[2Design]

20. no - torture made them mentally unstable and they need a decompression therapy n/t

[Ohio Joe]

37. Agreed

I don't care if they were the nicest or the worst person on earth before going there. After being tortured for a few years, these people need serious care and help.

[EFerrari]

50. No kidding. I've watched interviews with several released Gitmo prisoners.

They were so broken. It's hard to believe any of them would want to come here after what they've been through.

[Sebastian Doyle]

21. Sure.

Just give me a no bid contract for $500 billion like the ones Halliburton gets, and I'll remodel my basement into a Supermax prison.

[Lex]

22. Personally? Why personally? Is this a serious alternative?

WTF?

[RandomThoughts]

23. I think the problem with your question is it implies a meaning to 'Gitmo Detainee'

There is no way to know what kind of people, good or bad, terrorist or what, are in Gitmo. I assume some bad people are their, but with what has been shown to be Bush's thought process, and the sweeps that were done in some cases, its impossible to know if someone like the 70 year old man is evil, or just what Bush thinks is evil. And from that article about his interpretations of Bible prophesy, and comments he made, I can't give Bush or Cheney the ability to decide who is evil.

So if you asked would I want a known violent person that harbors hate and anger against people in my house, I would say no. I would say detention would be better. But some of the people that created the Gitmo problem fit that same grouping.

Anyway, the problem is 'Gitmo Detainee' has an inherent assumption of them being bad, but they have not had trials, and we have to trust that people that believed in a crusade and we know did evil things, were correct in each assessment of how bad people in Gitmo are.

But I actually assume, after years of imprisonment, if they didn't have hate and anger for America when they went into Gitmo, they probably do now. So detention with quality care and good treatment seems a rational decision.

[RandomThoughts]

72. I may be wrong, it may be in the better interest of justice and what is right

to release people that can not be charged of a crime. I may be saying detention is needed due to a weakness of character on my part, if they can not be shown to have committed crimes, how can they be held in any just society.

[annm4peace]

26. So many reason and I'm too tired to write them all

Because they are human and I have read many of their stories. I have protested for their release, for their human treatment for the last 7 freakin years. Because if my family member was abducted, sent to another country, tortured repeatedly, held in an inhumane way and not allowed to comeback.. I would pray some kind and caring person would take them in.

That being said, would I want someone who is so mentally ill that my life would be in danger? No.
Would I want someone who hated women and thought they are 2nd class citizens ? No.
Would I want someone who was a suicide risk to them selves and others (I guess that is like the 1st question) ? No
Would I want someone who vowed to kill any and all americans once released ? NO.


( but I wouldn't want that from people here either.. and we got alot men like that living in the US)

But yes, I believe there are many who were at Gitmo who I would take in, especially if they could speak English, and if not there is an interpreter and especially if they were to receive continued counseling for the horrific PTSD.. and I would try to set up a computer for them to communicate with their families.

Watch the movie "Road to Guantanamo" of 3 English young men abducted and sent to Gitmo.

Yes there are some criminals at Guantanamo, but there are also some humanitarians, and some who are just simple people.

http://www.cageprisoners.com/prisoners.php?location=Guantanamo


http://www.amazon.com/Road-Guantanamo-Riz-Ahmed/dp/B000HOL67U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1243659669&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/My-Guantanamo-Diary-Detainees-Stories/dp/1586484982/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1243659669&sr=8-3

[annm4peace]

29. It is sad to see how uneducated so many people are

I was surprised to see your answer "Truthiness".

Hundreds of people send to Guantanamo were not guilty of anything. That has been stated by soldiers, contractors, red cross workers, detainees themselves, journalists.. etc. There is much evidence and reports from military and intelligence professionals.

[Truthiness Inspector]

30. So, out of 61 million people, these guys just got unlucky

and need a break, right?

When you say they did nothing wrong, you are calling the troops who caused their detention liars.

[annm4peace]

35. The troops had no choice, I CALL THE MILITARY LEADERSHIP LIARS !

I call the whole Bush Administration LIARS.

I call Major General Geoffrey Miller a LIAR

and I call YOU stubbornly ignorant !

[Truthiness Inspector]

44. If you have a calculator handy...

200 to 300 detainees out of 61 million people.

Will you post what percentage of the population the military leadership detained (for no good reason, according to you)?

[CJCRANE]

77. Most of them were handed in for a bounty

so you're taking the word of the people who handed them in on trust.

[armyowalgreens]

81. It's not how many they detained relative to population.

It's how many they unlawfully detained relative to how many they detained total. The percentage is going to be much higher.

Oh and the number is higher than 200-300. That is simply the number released from Gitmo. There are many other prisons with many more detainees. I'd guess the number easily jumps into the thousands.

[EFerrari]

40. You need to read up. Most of these people did nothing wrong at all.

They were sold to Rumsfeld for a bounty and he turned around and told the country they were the "worst of the worst".

That's been known for years now.

[annm4peace]

43. Thank you ! worried I was posting on a freeper site

[EFerrari]

45. I see you, Ann!

:hi:

[Truthiness Inspector]

46. According to you, did ANY terrorists do anything wrong?

If you say yes, would you say it's a small percentage?

[annm4peace]

47. Until you educate yourself, I can't response to you anymore

[EFerrari]

49. Go read the ICRC report on these people. They were the ones

that reported that over 80% of them never pointed a weapon at an American troop. I think that report came out five YEARS ago.

[noamnety]

60. Are you equating "gitmo detainee" with terrorist?

Are you the same person who was doing that a few days back as well, acting like all the detainees (or the majority, with a few exceptions) were terrorists and criminals?

If so, that's beyond pathetic, it's something I'd expect to hear on Fox News.

[EFerrari]

42. It's been read into the Congressional record more than once.

Bakers, journalists, grandfathers, teenagers, religious tourists. Not exactly "monster under the bed" material.

[emilyg]

31. No way. Wouldn't feel safe.

[Truthiness Inspector]

34. Thank you. n/t

[HughMoran]

32. Fuck no

That's like playing roulette with your life. Just my luck I'd get the one actual psycho that is there. Plus, the person would not want to stay here anyway.

[global1]

33. Great Idea - A Terrorist Exchange Program - Let's Send Them......

Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, Wolfowitz, Feith, Card, etc, etc, etc

[annm4peace]

36. If you could personally host/house a Gitmo "interrorgator" or guard would you?

If so, why ?

If not, why not ?

[LooseWilly]

64. Absolutely not.

I want nothing to do with cops in general... and Gitmo guards/interrogators even less. I'll take a detainee over a guard/interrogator any day.

[EFerrari]

38. As long as they're not Republicans.

[Occam Bandage]

39. Of course not. They're likely mentally unstable, possibly violently so,

and they likely have grievances against Americans. Why would I want such a person in my home? I'm not even comfortable letting a door-to-door magazine salesman linger on my doorstep.

[Vickers]

48. Sure, if you'll lick my taint.

Sorry, just trying to come up with a reply as ridiculous as the question.

:spank:

[JVS]

71. Nice!

[bleever]

51. The Constitution guarantees that we don't have to quarter our own military.

But the answer is no, because taxi drivers and clerks have always kind of intimidated me.

Shepherds: don't get me started.

[cherokeeprogressive]

52. Big Red NO in 72pt Times New Roman. They don't like dogs.

Bigtime don't like dogs. That's enough reason for me. If I can't trust someone alone with my dog, and have to worry about my dog being mistreated if they're alone with it, they're not welcome in my house, EVER.

Plus, they're required to wash before praying if they've come in contact with anything else that has come in contact with dog saliva. My water bill would go through the roof.

Lastly, I'm an avowed Infidel. There would be too much tension at the dinner table.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?cid=1123996015602&pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE

[Orangeone]

65. What a Stupid Stereotype

I know a lot of Muslims that have/like dogs. In fact, I knew one that had a pet pig!

[cherokeeprogressive]

69. Did you notice that I linked to an Islamic website?

Google Islam dog saliva

So you know a lot of Muslim detainees? I would venture a guess that a fair number of detainees have fundamentalist beliefs. Please remember that this discussion isn't about ALL Muslims, rather detainees. I don't think it's a stereotype at all.

[MADem]

73. Americans and wealthy Pakistanis with toy poodles are not Saudis,

Iraqis, Syrians, Iranians, Afghans, etc. The dog is not a very beloved animal over that way. A serious insult is to call someone dog sperm. Really.

I like dogs better than some people, so I don't buy the dog hatred. But to pretend that it is just a "stupid stereotype" is not true. There's a good swathe of the culture that does not care for the noble dog. Having lived over that way, I've seen it.

[noamnety]

53. Probably yes (with considerations)

We have in the past offered to host a severely wounded child and caretaker(s) from the Children of War Rescue Project, and offered to host overflow people from a local place that houses survivors of persecution from around the world who are in limbo while seeking legal shelter in the United States and Canada.

We would need approval from the army due to someone in the household currently holding a high level clearance, we'd have to work with appropriate agencies to ensure we can offer the services they would need and that we have a system in place so we know what to do if the situation doesn't work out. For each somewhat similar scenario we've offered our house up for, it was through an organization with experience in matters like that, it wasn't just us privately opening our house to strangers without working through an agency.

As for the if so, why? question, the answer is that I've served in the military. Atonement, redemption, call it what you like, but I feel an extra responsibility to take on the burden of the messes we've made.

[lonestarnot]

54. No fucking way. They don't like birds, cats, dogs, music, and we don't like the same food.

:D

[EFerrari]

55. Not birds or cats either? Are you sure?

That's a drag. I couldn't live without my critters.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

56. No, I wouldn't want to host a good friend for more than a few weeks

Why the hell would I want a potential terrorist in my house?

[EFerrari]

57. If you get a few minutes, go see the segment Bill Moyers did tonight

on exactly who got picked up by Rumsfeld. It aired tonight and they usually post it to his site right away. It's devastating and it shows really clearly how much bs we've been fed for years about these people.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

58. Like I said, my best friend would annoy me, why would I want a potential terrorist?

Anyway, the house is small and the floors aren't done yet.

[Harry Monroe]

59. I'd have to clean my house first

It's such a mess!

[TayTay]

62. What? Do I have to post the bond too?

Duh! Why would a detainee be at the home of an average citizen? How did they get there? What was the legal change that brought a detainee into the home of an ordinary citizen. Is a bond posted and am I on the hook for the money if the detainee skips out, cuz I am not hosting anyone under that circumstance, related to me or not?

Why would a Gitmo detainee be eligible for housing with unprepared, untrained and unready civilians?

[Kurska]

63. Dunno, are they willing to do the wash?

[ContinentalOp]

68. Do I get to waterboard him? -nt-

[JVS]

70. No. I don't use my home as a place for holding prisoners. What a stupid idea.

[Duer 157099]

74. I would feel the same about housing one of them as I would about

housing one of the prison guards who mistreated them.

Nah, come to think of it, I'd MUCH prefer the detainee. At least they *might* be innocent.

[SeattleGirl]

75. No, but I'm rather protective of my home, so I wouldn't let just

anybody stay here.

May not make me the most popular kid on the block, but that's how I feel.

That being said, I also don't think that everyone in Gitmo is guilty of terra terra terra.

[JI7]

76. if our State, County , City etc would get money for it

i wouldn't do it personally as in my home or support it being done in anyone else's home. but a prison.

[sandyj999]

79. I don't even like it if relatives visit for more than three days. n/t

[Burma Jones]

82. IF I owned a Supermax facility, I might