Praise the Lord and Pass the Ammuntion! Valley Station church to hold gun service

[BridgeTheGap]

A Valley Station Road church is sponsoring an "Open Carry Church Service" in late June, encouraging people to wear unloaded guns in their holsters, enter a raffle to win a free handgun, hear patriotic music and listen to talks by operators of gun stores and firing ranges.

Pastor Ken Pagano of New Bethel Church said the first-time event is "basically trying to think a little bit outside the box" to promote "responsible gun ownership and Second Amendment rights."

The event, slated for Saturday afternoon, June 27, is being promoted with online posters, including one using a red font resembling splattered blood with the words: "Open Carry Church Service."

Pagano said the poster wasn't intended to glorify bloodshed and the lettering was just "a font that somebody developed." He said he didn't want the event to be confused with regular Sunday worship at the Assemblies of God congregation.

http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20090604/NEWS01/906040362&referrer=FRONTPAGECAROUSEL

[villager]

1. You didn't know Jesus was an NRA member!?

Hell, the second amendment isn't just a mandate from the Founding Fathers to let teenagers carry automatic weapons to campus, and drunks to go strapped to bars, its roots are absolutely Biblical!

[Raskolnik]

13. I'm impressed with how many straw men you can cram into a two line post.

Kudos.

[villager]

26. Ah, if only they *were* straw men!

Thanks for the kudos!

[Raskolnik]

27. Ok, let's go through them, and you can explain how these are anything other than straw men

Could you please point out who you believe is making the argument that the Founding Fathers wished to allow teenagers to carry automatic weapons on campus?

Could you also please point out who believes the Founding Fathers wished to allow drunks to carry firearms inside bars?

Thanks in advance.


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[villager]

35. Nah -- not doing one of your dour, humorless subthreads here, Raskolnik!

But have a great, sunny, gun-loving day! :hi:

[Raskolnik]

36. I believe that's technically known as conceding a bullshit post.

I accept your concession.

[villager]

37. as I say -- dour & humorless!

But enjoy your great victory! :hi:

[mrbarber]

55. Dour and humorless-perhaps, but also true.

If you want to sprout of inflammatory comments, at least have the courage to back them up. And no, I'm not a gun nut by any stretch of the imagination.

BTW-Rorschach was extremely right wing.

[Recursion]

2. I find the hand-wringing over this amusing NT

[BridgeTheGap]

3. Hey, it was this or snake handling - take your pick! n.t

[Recursion]

4. Hmm... I see an interesting mash-up in the near future

Bethel Covenant Church's Snake and Gun-Handling Jubilee!

On a more serious note, I'm generally for events that take gun ownership "out of the closet" and de-mystify guns.

[proteus_lives]

9. Agreed.

"On a more serious note, I'm generally for events that take gun ownership "out of the closet" and de-mystify guns."

+1

[T Wolf]

6. But the snakes are not loaded. Actually, I would encourage this kind of service with

the addition of mandatory massive alcohol consumption.

Oh, and the guns should definitely be loaded. With safeties off.

[BridgeTheGap]

20. People have died handling snakes - some are loaded with venom. n.t

[groovedaddy]

56. I was raised catholic...alot of people got loaded, usually at the church picnic and bingo! nt

[UnrepentantUnitarian]

5. Honoring the Prince of Peace...

...that "turn the other cheek" guy, you know. It's "I'll show you mine if you'll show me yours" day at the old First Church of the OK Corral. I knew that some churches were getting desparate for parishioners, but didn't know it was this bad.

[11 Bravo]

7. Can I get a YEE-HAA? (err ... I mean an AMEN.)

[ellie]

8. We really

need to do something to bolster mental health counseling in this country.

[BirminghamExaminer]

10. There's always somebody who thinks their gun is unloaded when it isn't

Like my dad when I was 14 and he was telling me all about how his dad taught him how to handle guns safely. He checked the chambers (or whatever they're called) and then said, "See, it's empty." Then he pulled the trigger and shot a hole through the wall into my sister's bedroom where she was sleeping. Luckily it didn't hit her.

Sorry but I don't believe in "responsible" gun owners. My dad was a very smart man but he proved to me that day that there's no such thing as a safe gun.

[Recursion]

11. He violated all of the safe handling procedures

They aren't very hard to follow.

Yes, there are no "safe" guns any more than there are safe cars; that's why both require some personal responsibility to use.

[BirminghamExaminer]

14. yeah I worry about the other drivers too nt

[BirminghamExaminer]

16. yeah I sorta thought so too when he shot the hole through the wall

[Winterblues]

28. Cars also require training, testing, and licensing, and insurance?

All guns require is money to buy them.

[Recursion]

30. It requires 0 training, testing, licensing, and insurance to own and operate a car

To operate a car on public roads requires those; you can drive all you want on your own property.

Similarly, many states require licensing to carry firearms in public.

[Raskolnik]

17. Just because your dad did something pretty dumb (and nearly tragic), it does not follow

that there is no such thing as a "responsible" gun owner.

[jazzjunkysue]

24. There's no possible way a gun can be safe if it's in the same acre as a child.

Period.

What does this church think it's teaching it's children? Mom and Dad play with their guns, so it's OK for me to play with them?

[Raskolnik]

29. Really? The "same acre?"

I must have been remarkably lucky, because I grew up with dozens of guns inhabiting my same acre.

[Recursion]

32. Yes, much better to keep them mysterious and unknown

I first fired a gun when I was 9, after several years of being shown and taught safe firearm handling. That's much safer in my mind than growing up never seeing a gun, not knowing how they operate, and thinking of them as more or less "magical".

[Stevenmarc]

12. "Open Carry Church Service" followed by a bring your own kill covered dish social.

[alfredo]

15. Even the people of Shively look down on Valley Station.

Valley Station has been a hotbed of ultra right wing haters for as long as I can remember.


Shively ain't no prize either.

[steelyboo]

45. Really? Shively?

I live in Valley. Now its mostly old country whites, so it is fairly conservative, but I don't think I would classify it as "ultra right-wing." However, to say Shively looks down on Valley? Shively has ALWAYS been full of trash, with IQs hovering around their shoe size. Shively is the only city where I've been pulled over for a busted headlight, and literally the ENTIRE police force (5 cars at the time) showed up. For a busted headlight; no threats, weapons, drugs or alcohol, just a busted headlight. So, if you mouthbreathers look down on us, you will have to forgive the fact that we could give a shit less about your opinion.

[alfredo]

46. Shively had the best police force money could buy. When the police chief

died, they had to put a guard on his grave because someone kept crapping on his headstone. The next chief spent ten years in prison on coercion charges.

You still have a lot of Klan down there in Valley Station?

You know they built Pleasure Ridge Park for those who couldn't make it in Shively or Valley.

Both towns had nothing of value. That's why I left.

[groovedaddy]

47. My mom went to Valley High but we lived in Shively. I don't know that there's a lot of distinction

among this whole area, extended over to Fairdale and Okolona.
I believe these areas were populated by folks from out in the state who were trying to make there way in the city, jobs, etc.
And, yeah, the shively cops were a bunch of thugs. I was hauled in by them once, ticketed a number of times, had friends beaten up by them.
I still have family that lives in Shively and VS. Like anywhere else, you will find the good, the bad and the in between. But there are definately more red necks in these areas than other parts of Louisville.

[alfredo]

50. Shively was a nasty little place. I've had run ins with the police too.

When one of my high school friend's dad killed a loan officer. Chief Luther Melton went to his home and told his kids (the oldest , 15) that they had 24 hours to leave town. They had no mother to take care of them, so they were thrown into the streets. They disappeared for years. After Melton died one returned for a visit.

Luther loved to pistol whip kids. He also phone booked kids. He'd put a phone book up side their head and smack it with a billy club. He was a fat pig that deserved every turd dropped on his headstone.

You could get arrested for standing on the corner waiting for the light to change. If you were black, you avoided Shively. You didn't drive through there. Out of state license plates were an invitation for a ticket to be paid in cash on the spot.

The high school allowed extreme corporal punishment for some students.

the only good thing that came out of Shively was NRBQ.

[BridgeTheGap]

51. The Bradens (Karl and Ann) bought a house for a black family in shively during the 50s.

There was cross burned on their lawn shortly after moving in. They moved out just as quickly.

[alfredo]

52. Dynamite was throw too. I knew Carl. Many don't know that he was

an incredible softball player. Never met his wife, but I've heard great things about her.


I worked with Carl at Stewart's Dry Goods over at the Finzer Warehouse.

[steelyboo]

48. wouldn't know about KKK, last I heard of them in this area was the busing riots in the early 70's

but a nice try at a parting swipe. Thanks for telling me you moved out of the area, I had mistakenly thought they had quit burning horseshit for heat in Shively when that stench disappeared.

[alfredo]

49. We had more cows that horses.

[Canuckistanian]

18. Poster for the event:

[Dogtown]

31. I'm dying!

Anybody remember the "Christian Guide To Small Arms"?

Hilarious AND full of mistakes!

[Raskolnik]

19. Seems kind of silly. n/t

[KamaAina]

21. Who Would Jesus Shoot?

:eyes:

[Arctic Dave]

22. ROTFLMAO. I can't see straight I'm laughing so hard.

[Dogtown]

33. Take your finger off the trigger!

Think of the children!!111!

:rofl:

[groovedaddy]

23. Fresh troops for the crusades / inquistions? n.t

[jazzjunkysue]

25. Snore. The New Covenant Church does it with a hit of crystal meth.

These Bethel Churchies are amateurs. Geesh.

[Dogtown]

34. You can toot off a sight-blade...

What kind of saved are you, anyways?

[chaplainM]

38. Benediction prayer leaked!

"O, Lord, we beseech thee, sprinkle upon thy faithful the gunpowder of Thy grace, laden us with the Holy lead of Thy truth, jacket us always in the rightous copper of Thy word, close our ears to the temptations of Satan with the pure cotton wadding of Your divine love, and shower our hearts with the incandescent spark of Your most holy KABOOOOOMMM!

[groovedaddy]

41. Ha ha! n.t

[northzax]

39. just out of curiosity

what use is an unloaded handgun? isn't it basically an expensive and poorly functioning hammer at that point?

[BridgeTheGap]

40. I guess you can throw it? Who will be checking to make sure they're unloaded? n.t

[Stevenmarc]

42. Jesus

[nichomachus]

43. Hey -- it's not just the Talibangelicals --

[nichomachus]

44. Actually, the correct expression is: "Pass the Lord and praise the ammunition." m/t

[Spirochete]

53. Why does that song

"Winchester Cathedral" keep going through my mind now??? Please make it stop!!

[groovedaddy]

54. I hate when that happens! n.t

[and-justice-for-all]

57. I thought churches already did this...

with all the Church shootings as of late...