Russian scientists 'alarmed' as millions of birds begin falling from world's skies

[lovuian]

Russian scientists 'alarmed' as millions of birds begin falling from world's skies

http://english.pravda.ru/science/earth/26-01-2007/86777-bird_flu-0

An alarming series of reports from the Russian Academy of Medical Sciences Influenza Research Institute are reporting today that millions of avian species have succumbed, while in flight, to a rapidly evolving virus linked to the deadly H5N1 Bird Flu variant.


Doctor Scientist Oleg Kiselyov, the head of the Influenza Research Institute, states in these reports that a nematode parasite belonging to the 'Superfamily Subuluroidea' has now become a carrier of a 'mutated' H5N1 Bird Flu Virus with 'sub strains' never seen before.

More horrifically are that these reports state that this mutated H5N1 Bird Flu virus has now 'jumped' the 'species barrier' and is now infecting both animals and insects, and which has also been confirmed by Indonesian scientists, and as we can read as reported by the Malaysian National News Service in their report titled "Indonesian Scientist Warns Of Bird Flu In Flies", and which says:

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Doctor Scientist Kiselyov further states that Western scientists are rejecting Russia's research and are instead reporting to their citizens 'other causes' to explain the growing number of mass bird deaths in mid-flight, including Sri Lanka, and which has become yet another of the World's Nations to report birds falling from sky dead
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The United States, also, continues to keep the dire situation facing our World's avian species from this virus from their citizens, even as more reports of mass bird deaths continue to rise in their country, including the latest report from their Western Regions which are reporting this week on the deaths of hundreds of ducks
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The White House on Wednesday unveiled a foreboding report on the nation's lack of preparedness for a bird flu pandemic, warning that such an outbreak could kill as many as 2 million people and deal a war-like blow to the country's economic and social fabric. It urged state and local governments to make their own preparations beyond the federal efforts. (Source: Bird Flu News)
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This concerns me cause he is right I have checked Birds have been reported dying all over South Dakota Oregon Texas And Idaho
This could be the other shoe that Bush is gonna drop on us...Pandemic FEMA ...Whats your feelings DUERs

[GCP]

1. Kick for something possibly more important than John Edwards' house

The things that get people in an uproar around here vs something truly worrying. :eyesroll:

[originalpckelly]

2. Yeah, from the people at Pravda...

who brought us the rayburn office building counter coup and the immediate announcement that all war protesters would be jailed.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/feedback/18-01-2007/86549-war_protesters-0

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/26/AR2006052600710_pf.html

^^^The real story about the Rayburn "shots fired"^^^

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/06-06-2006/81616-crisis-0

^^^Pravda's coverage of it^^^

[lovuian]

19. Britain is asking Russia to help find cure for Bird Flu

http://www.redorbit.com/news/display?id=213676&source=r_health

Evidentally Russia is one of the top influenza research in the world are you saying this scientist is not credible???

[lovuian]

20. Another Russian source

http://www.cdi.org/russia/johnson/2006-57-2.cfm

Why hasn't western newspapers picked this up

[terisan]

3. I think we have got to get Bush-Cheney out of office in 2007

I don't think they will leave willingly in 2008.

[halobeam]

4. Russia reports it, and we don't .

OMG.

Why do we wonder that brain dead shows like American Idol have such high viewership? I suggest 1: They have to search for REAL news, and they don't. So they don't know. Therefore kicking back, like everything is really okay. Truly naive. Truly ignorant. Whatever you want to call it. 2: They learned about this, and everyother horrible thing going on and need to completely go brain dead or their heads will explode off their necks.

[Ladyhawk]

5. How reliable a source is Pravda these days?

:shrug:

Just wondering.

[TheWraith]

8. Not at all.

Anyway, there have been a number of these things getting publicity lately, but it's sort of like the shark attacks in 2001: it's a "perception surge," caused by news reports about the same amount of incidents that always happen.

[lovuian]

9. In some things they are off base and of course support Russia

so I guess they are as reliable as Fox news is

whats a reader to do Ignore it
or read between lines
Check Idaho lost barn owls and ducks
South dakota geese
Oregon lost thousands of geese
Austin texas capital was closed

I'm just saying I'm concerned at the outbreaks of deaths in this country

Indonesia Sri lanka vietnam China and Japan have outbreaks of diagnosed avian Flu
Who has said its just a matter of time before it jumps species

are our Western scientists being hushed

??? just curious

[lapfog_1]

10. How reliable is any media these days?

WSJ? NYP? Faux, any of the BC's (ABC, NBC, CBS, etc, etc)?

[originalpckelly]

14. Pravda is hands down the absolute worst source for information...

possibly in human history. It's very inaccurate.

[Flabbergasted]

15. But immensly entertaining....You can see Russian propaganda very clearly...

Putin is buying a bigger stake in Pravda soon if not already. Saw that recently in an article about the Russian Oil Industry specifically Gazprom.


And there is sometimes a shred of truth here and there you won't find many other places.

But its nearly a tabloid in every other way....

[lovuian]

17. Just like Fox News is here Bird Flu is spreading all over the

Globe and our news media for some reason has been very quiet about it

[lovuian]

16. Ok heres some other sources for you

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/birdflu_dc;_ylt=ArzsNbkAjzvnrAOEsXn_vkmTvyIi;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
This is one helluva article because the people attacked the government

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070127/hl_afp/healthflujapan_070127211734;_ylt=AulDesk6nLT4H7nK3ReKIyaTvyIi;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
This is the Japan news
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070127/ap_on_he_me/japan_bird_flu_1;_ylt=AusLNmMG6_DUcVgY947G2teTvyIi;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Tests confirm bird flu outbreak in Japan

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070126/hl_afp/healthflueuhungary_070126213248;_ylt=AottcONo3gUYASZm3.bppzmTvyIi;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

Hungarian bird flu probably deadly H5N1: EU

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070126/hl_afp/healthfluindonesiaus_070126143804;_ylt=AiDL_cP0goVtAe03ad2daAiTvyIi;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
US donates protective clothing to Indonesia

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6262765.stm
Thailand hit by bird flu outbreak

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070111/hl_nm/birdflu_spread_dc_2
FACTBOX-Bird flu's spread around the globe

this does not include Australia thousands of dead birds and Americas dead birds cases
I guess is it a possiblity Bird flu is here in the US and its not reported by Bush administration

heres Australia mystery deaths
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21076317-2,00.html

Heres Austin Texas
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/8/124456.shtml?s=us

Heres Thousands of Ducks in Idaho
http://www.nowpublic.com/thousands_of_ducks_dying_in_idaho_bird_flu
Heres Geese fall from sky Oregon

http://www.rense.com/general62/dari.htm

Heres 1000 ducks die myseriously in Idaho
http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2006/12/14/ducks-dead.html
Heres 800 Barn Owls die in Idaho
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,650221073,00.html

[lapfog_1]

22. Our media is just so much more subtle

They don't often outright lie about things, they simply choose what stories to report (and it's funny how with all the 24 hour news outlets there are, there is such a lack of diversity in the news stories covered AND in how few stories are actually told).

Watch the CNN international edition or the BBC and compare it to the rest of the gaggle (ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, CNBC, CNN, FOX). It's astounding the amount of sameness within the gaggle and even more astounding how different the international channels are.

I'm not saying that Pravda is what it's name means... far from it. I am just more upset about how our news organizations are getting closer and closer to Pravda every day. Especially if there is some disturbing news in the world that our corporate masters would rather us not know.

Did you know that US meat processing plants CANNOT test cattle for Mad Cow disease, even if they wanted to? A small meat packing facility in Kansas wanted to test meat for Mad Cow before shipping to Japan, but the USDA refused to allow them to perform such tests. Why? If there were thousands or millions of birds falling from the skies because of Bird Flu, do you think the corporate masters would want that story covered? Really? Which is not to say that this is true or not, there were a few stories recently in our news about entire flocks dying here in the US, but in each case (3 cases??) is was ruled NOT bird flu. All 3 stories died quickly.

[lovuian]

26. Bingo well said

I'm not saying its true or not true I don't know just letting DUer's know what out there
in the media world besides MSNBC FOX and CNN

But your being very naive if you think the EPA or the FAA or the USDA or the FEMA are going to protect you

They have all proven under Bush they LIE LIE LIE

[arcos]

29. Prensa Latina is a close second, though...

Sometimes they report what no one else does and it is great in that sense, but other times you just find them making stuff up.

[originalpckelly]

13. See Reply #2...

Not very reliable, at least in my experience of reading what people post from them. One has to wonder why Russia is still propagandizing America in such blatant ways.

[lovuian]

18. Perhaps because US propoganda machine as evident in

Wilson trial ...Tim Russert and others were given plant stories about such things as WMD and remember Judith Millers book Germs

Our news media isn't a propoganda machine ??? Wilson trial is blowing that for the Bush Regime

Do you trust the Bush government and I only have to see the EPA who said the air was clear after 9/11 for rescue workers to be a bit suspicious Our news media said it was OK cause the EPA said it was OK

does that mean its Accurate

later we found its alie

[Frustratedlady]

6. Wasn't it Austin that had so many birds that died?

Was this the cause? I thought it was a parasite. Perhaps I'm wrong.

[lovuian]

11. The capital was closed and the official report was they

thought nuerotoxin I think don't quote me on that

[Hoping4Change]

7. .

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[Coexist]

12. knr

[lovuian]

24. add Sri Llanka to the list too

also I'll add the West coast makes perfect sense that bird Flu would be detected first

Just letting people know bird Flu is spreading all over Asia

And there are our troops 100,000 of them over there fighting

We are totally unprepared for this just like Homeland Security was totally unprepared for katrina

Bush's attitude is fend for yourselfs states

[proud patriot]

21. Scary stuff

especially since I was hit with something 3am friday morning .

It's been awful , finally had some ginger ale and chicken broth
today .

Seems these bugs are getting worse ...

[kimmerspixelated]

23. Folx,

Please don't panic. SOme say that the Bird Flu is a hoax. Dr. Mercola wrote a book on it. If he is wrong, there are plenty of known and effective virus killers out there that THEY don't want you to know about. Natural medicines my friend. OIL OF OREGANO. It's extremely spicey and it burns, but it helps, a lot. Take Airborne at the first sign. Grapeseed and grapefruit oils. Also, recently I have read that the ForeverGreen company makers of FrequenSea have an essential oil out I think the name of it is, Spice of Life, and it was recently proven to kill the bird flu. NOT SNAKE OIL!!!! Don't fall into the trap of always believing there is no way out unless you take THEIR drugs(FDA approved) ..(mafioso gov.approved) Nature has always had the answer. Do your own research!

[lovuian]

25. Thank you

I'll keep those in mind

[vireo]

33. Medicinal mushrooms show promise as well

http://www.botanicalpreservationcorps.com/mushrooms_1.htm

Also google Paul Stamets.

[Kagemusha]

27. Infecting birds and insects? Wha? Double wha?

No thanks, I'll pass on this story. Unless some idiot means carriers but even then.. wha?

[walldude]

28. More Bird Flu bullshit...

Yeah let me run out and get vaccinated :eyes: Live in fear.

[The Backlash Cometh]

30. Meanwhile, in America, American scientists following Bush policies...

...just keep picking their teeth.

[lovuian]

32. It reminds me of Katrina they were waiting for the disaster

and did nothing

They have already admitted we are not prepared
if we had Universal Health that would help
and I predict this will precipitate Universal health

[The Witch]

31. Did anyone here see "The Core"?

Just asking... :shrug:

[file83]

35. Interesting point...could these birds be the "canary in the coal mine" for solar radiation?

After all, the magnetic shield is fading, possibly because it's beginning to transition.

Horrible movie by the way, but the point still stands.

[Codeblue]

34. That's sad

for the birds. And I guess for people who love the beauty of most birds.

But honestly, the government has hapring about bird flu for a couple of years now and, what, maybe 100 people have died of it worldwide? Maybe up to 300? And zero in the U.S. So I'm not too afraid of bird flu.

Just like I'm not afraid of anthrax, bubonic plague, meteors or any other crap the government spews.