what Michael Jackson might have looked like without plastic surgery

[luvspeas]

so sad. very hot even if he had vitiglio. serious body dismorphia

[Hydra]

1. Something I saw showed how he hated his dad

I think he didn't want to look like him...especially since that was something his dad took pride in. It's not a good thing to use your kids.

[bigwillq]

5. I think someone on Keith's show

said that. That is tragic. So sad. :(

[TuxedoKat]

14. Yes, I wish I could remember

who said that. I thought it was a pretty astute observation too.

[joshcryer]

21. A guy from Rolling Stone said it, one of their music editors.

But there were others who expressed the same general sentiment.

Editor of the magazine I mean.

[TuxedoKat]

27. Thank you (nt)

[Tangerine LaBamba]

2. Wow .........

I bet that's right.

Stunning. A gloriously handsome man.

That's one of the saddest things I've ever seen .....................

[Sukie]

3. Society failed him. He should have felt great pride in

himself. So much talent yet he loathed himself, according to Deepak Chopra. So very sad. That is a handsome man above.

[luvspeas]

4. It's from the Daily Mail...

Got it off Buzzfeed, but I think it's pretty accurate overall. We can argue whether or not he was a child molester. I think he was, but what do I really know. I know what I can see the man did to his face. And it was such a beautiful face and for some reason he didn't see it that way. What he did to himself was a cry for help and humanity failed him. I think he was abused by his family and anybody else that got a chance and then in turn he identified with children and as a child and tried to rectify what happened to him with other kids. It happens every day folks. Lisa Marie and Liza both said it today - He was destroying himself right in front of us for some time now and nobody could stop him.

[Maru Kitteh]

13. Society began in the home for that unfortunate soul.

Some people manage to survive abusive parents very well. Others struggle, and never quite muster the strength. Sometimes the blows delivered in childhood prove too hard and too cruel to fend off.

[Lilyeye]

23. You make a good point about his self loathing.

He was abused by his father and dealt some racism in the industry during this early days. I was reading Tatum O'Neal's bio about 2 years ago and I remember this story she told about her and Micheal. He wanted to take her to his movie premiere of "The Wiz" and she agreed to go. However, when she told her agents she was going they said to her "you can't go to a movie premiere with a N*****" So even MJ was considered a N***** to these people. She said he was very hurt and devastated by it. That would further explain why he had self hatred for how he looked... along with the abuse he took from his father.

[CoffeeCat]

6. Did anyone else see the Quincy Jones...

...interview tonight? He said that Michael Jackson has pictures, all over his house, of blonde-haired-blue-eyed children. These
were formal, framed pictures. He said they were all over the house, as if Jackson emulated that look.

Jones said Michael never shared with him why he always had these pictures.

I'm speculating...but two things are certain. His father was a brutal tyrant. Jackson seemed to loathe his appearance.

What do you want to bet--that Michael Jackson's father was constantly in his face, brow beating him about how he had
to work twice as hard because he was black--twice as hard as those blonde-haired-blue-eyed children.

All of his plastic surgeries seem to be a form of self mutilation. Jackson was only seven when he made those amazing
historical appearances as leader singer of the Jackson 5. Constantly hearing that you aren't good enough, and that you're
nothing unless you are 100 times better than everyone else made a horrendous impression.

I don't know exactly what Joe Jackson said or did--but judging from the pain Michael Jackson displayed--eating disorders, mutilating
his appearance with surgeries, drug addiction, potential child molestation--you can damn well bet it was bad.

And that father played the tyrant until the end--watching his son deteriorate and endure mess after mess---and never trying
to make things right. He was a jerk until the end.

[luvspeas]

9. don't forget he was left alone a lot without a responsible adult...

in a world full of whoevers and whatevers. I think it was a combination of being verbally and physically abused by his dad, and neglected in a very adult world of show business that is a terrible place for a child without a ton of support.

[704wipes]

15. I heard when he 8 and 9 a lot of groupie girls got to him...

in very carnal ways of course. And that it was really too much for that age.

[csziggy]

12. I read that the first plastic surgeries to his nose were because of an accident

When he broke his nose during a dance rehearsal. The first rhinoplasty to fix it was not well done and he had breathing problems as a result. At least one of the later surgeries was to try to improve his breathing.

So not all of his plastic surgeries were self mutilation.

[LisaL]

32. He was apparently teased about his big nose as a child.

I bet that's where it all started. I think he changed his nose but it never was small enough so he ended up with basically no nose.

[Duer 157099]

7. Is that from one of those programs that ages a photo?

Or is that a relative? Or a photoshop?

:shrug:

[WillowTree]

8. So sad. He would have been a very handsome man.

[BrklynLiberal]

10. The "Off the Wall" cover showed the potential for a very handsome man.

He seems to have been a very troubled and sad person.

[luvspeas]

16. I grew up with little MJ...

that was the boy I fell in love with (so to speak), not this weird elf.

[alsame]

28. Me too. He was an adorable little boy and was becoming an

attractive young man before all the extreme surgery.

So sad that he barely looked human at the end.

[jazzjunkysue]

18. He was adorable back then. Now, he's monstrous. So sad.

[joshcryer]

22. "Now, he's monstrous."

So sad.

[RandomThoughts]

20. It gets so complicated.

seeing ones faults, and seeing faults that are not there. Or seeing faults and not able to handle shame, or seeing faults and not still loving oneself.

All are really tough things about the interpretations of the man in the mirror.

I think he may have had this clinical disorder.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/body-dysmorphic-disorder/ds00559

Although I think it is the act of some spiritual thing. Same thing is shown in the movie the Langoliers, and many other things. I think some spirits of interpretation try to get a person to see themselves wrong to hurt them. If it is not of love, question it.

Many years ago I had a similar event for about two days until grace overcame it, amazing what it can do to ones own view. It was like a mirror in a carnival.

Also anorexia falls into the same category.

[BrklynLiberal]

30. Someone, in one of the interviews I saw...perhaps it was Deepak Chopra,

mentioned body dysmorphic disorder. There are many sources that said he had vitiligo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo

[doc03]

11. The scary thing I saw yesterday was a guy

that had plastic surgery to look like MJ.

[BrklynLiberal]

17. A video called "Transformation" shows the changes in MJ.

Hard to believe...if you had not actually seen it happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkDOSM8bDN4&feature=related

[XemaSab]

25. The scary part is about 16 seconds in

when he goes from that beautiful copper color to fishbelly white. :(

[BrklynLiberal]

29. yep. ...according to Wikipedia, he had vitiligo

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitiligo

[FrenchieCat]

19. A very good looking man.....a Black one at that.

What a shame of a waste! :cry:

[snot]

24. Did you create the pic, or is there another source?

[MiniMe]

26. It is hotlinked to Daily Mail

[Raine]

31. it's a shame

he looked so much better without all that plastic surgery, I wish he had known how attractive he was.

[deaniac21]

33. That is one good looking 50 year old junkie!

[greenbriar]

34. he didn't want to look

like his father

[undeterred]

35. Where does the blame stop?

We take the blame off Michael and put it on his father Joe for abusing him. What happened to his father growing up? Was he beaten and abused too? These failures are passed on for a long time and its not easy to break out of them.

I think Michael Jackson would have been better off with less money and success.