It seems to me that we pretty much can lay the fault as to why we are in Iraq at the feet

[madokie]

of our m$m reporters. If our media people were doing their jobs, which btw is all anyone is asked to do, we wouldn't have any of these problems. In todays world and with the Internet all things false can be debunked in record time, no reason to ever have to say oops I got it wrong.

[patrice]

1. I have been thinking about this as 1/3s. What has happened is

the result of the actions of 3 factors:
1/3 BushCo
1/3 Congress
1/3 MSM

But, you got me thinking: If MSM were honest and truly professional, they c/would have countered the trajectory that the other two elements had established, so perhaps this should be something like:

1/4 BushCo
1/4 Congress
1/2 MSM.

[annabanana]

2. Math aside, I see what you mean.

If the General population had had access to the information that we political junkies had back then, there would have been a general uproar (on a larger scale) far earlier.

Misinformation is corrosive.

[EST]

3. H

[patrice]

5. It's really only intended as a rough estimate of the effects of

the three factors upon the whole result, i.e. the Invasion of Iraq.

[patrice]

7. Or are you asking ?

Three X 1/3 = 3/3 = 1
2 X 1/4 = 1/2 + 1/2 = 1

But of course, you probably DO know how to add fractions, so I don't understand your question.

On edit: Sorry! I crossed up my decimals (.5 ((which is what I usually use))) and fractions; fixed now.

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8. O

[madokie]

4. My thinking is that the press is the unofficial arm of the government that keeps the

other in line. The framers knew that having a free and open press was crucial to their new democracy thats why there is no laws covering them. Today we have the profiteers of war owning the m$m and feeding us lies. That is or should be illegal :shrug:

[patrice]

6. It has long been a common-place of research in social psychology

that media follows whatever the government is saying. As far back as I can remember I have seen that in various research publicaitons and databases and that's something around 20 years ago.

People think the media is soooooo anti-establishment and actually the opposite is the REAL case.

[patrice]

9. This is true. So many of us saw through what was going on because

we were on the internet looking for more information and getting a variety of perspectives on what the information meant. There is absolutely no reason professional journalists couldn't have done the same. They just didn't. And if some of them did go further and get more information and get more analysis, they hid from the doubts that triggered. They were too afraid of the truth.

[havocmom]

10. Hell, if they had been doing their jobs, bush would never been close enough to steal in 2000!

Yep, they are whores and traitors for the most part.