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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:22 PM Original message |
The Edwards house debate shows how juvenile and selfish some are |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:24 PM Original message |
Bravo. Finally a little common sense on this non-issue. |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Standards Of Moral Decency Do Change - The Level Of Hypocrisy Tolerated |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So FDR should have just shut up and done nothing about poverty? |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. And You Have Seen My Bank Account How? |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. If you have a house and a computer, you are wealthier than those who would thank FDR |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I Have Been A Renter For The Last 20 Years = I Was Unemployed From 2000 - 2005 |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Having a home is more than many in the Depression were lucky enough to experience |
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Rabrrrrrr
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Yeah- if you're rich and help the poor, you're an asshole. If you're rich and DON'T help |
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GreenArrow
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
101. and the biggest assholes |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. The Increasing Disparity Been Rich And Poor Is The Problem |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. Edwards singlehandedly made the poor poorer and the rich richer? |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No, The Fact That The Socio-Political System Allows This Kind Of Wealth |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. So why attack something sympotmatic? It does nothing to help the illness |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Simply Because Edwards Should Have Shown Better Judgment |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
38. Almost every single politician has a very expensive house. |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Ah Moral Relativism - Ain't It A Bitch |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. No, this is moral selfishness at its worst |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. If he banked his money rather than build a house he would have helped |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:50 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The System Supported The Wealth Aggregation At The Expense Of Others |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Not what I asked you. Try again. If he banked his money rather than building |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Worthless Debate - Not Going To Answer Such Hypothetical - My Points Are Clear By |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. Worthless indeed. You accuse a man of exacerbating a disparity, then back away |
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dogday
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Sat Jan-27-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #33 |
84. What speaks volumes is your insatiable appetite |
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Sat Jan-27-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
85. Yeah, really. And the football field he's putting in the back yard... |
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LanternWaste
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Sun Jan-28-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
91. I'm curious... |
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Sun Jan-28-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #91 |
109. Any amount more than lostnotforgotten has is the fulcrum between "moral" and "Obscene". |
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Canuckistanian
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #23 |
60. He's contibuting to the system. And that's wong |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. How exactly did his house make ANYONE poorer? |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. No One Said It Did Per Se |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You wrote "Edwards exacerbated [the disparity] by building his Taj Mahal". |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. "exacerbated" Metaphorically By Highlighting That It Exists |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. Oh, he METAPHORICALLY exacerbated it? What a fucking joke. |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. The Joke Is On You Then. |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. If by "the joke" you mean bothering to respond to you as if you were capable |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. A renter? You obviously can't have anything meaningful to say about thhe homeless, or |
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lostnotforgotten
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Nor Have I Been Discussing Those Subjects |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Just so we're clear that you don't have any business advocating for those things, |
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Clarkie1
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. That's really what's at the core of this whole debate...you nailed it! nt |
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GaYellowDawg
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. BRAVO! |
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Rabrrrrrr
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. Damned right. The whole "I'm more liberal than you" assholery is out of control. |
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The Velveteen Ocelot
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
27. Bravo again. |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #4 |
69. Nice yourself. Wish I could recommend a post. |
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WindRavenX
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
73. you rock |
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Kahuna
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
77. Jeez..FINALLY...an issue we can agree on! |
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Clarkie1
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Edwards is setting a poor example of environmental stewardship. |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. So he can't fight for the poor OR for the environment because he has a nice house? |
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Quixote1818
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
36. I agree, and as I said below, Global Warming wasn't a concern when |
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ronnykmarshall
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. I'm reminded of a line from "Moonstruck" |
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mondo joe
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. The House foolishness reminded me of another line from Moonstruck. |
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ronnykmarshall
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
76. That's so funny ... |
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NC_Nurse
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. Excellent post. |
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Quixote1818
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
10. Can we stop ripping one another apart and just debate the issue? |
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NCarolinawoman
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
62. I'm seeing this from an environmental point of view as well. |
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Quixote1818
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. The exact number is 48,853 Trees cut down for his new house. nt |
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noamnety
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #62 |
88. I didn't know about the tree ordnances |
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americanstranger
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Sun Jan-28-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
107. C.mon, now. Let's see a picture of Al Gore's house, then. |
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saltpoint
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
13. Recommended. |
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MN ChimpH8R
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
14. Well said |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. It's the safe road for foreign policy |
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MrSlayer
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. I'm concerned about Edwards' stance on Iran among other things. |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:38 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Now that's a worthy concern |
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citizen snips
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
24. I agree |
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
29. SPAM |
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Lost-in-FL
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:44 PM Response to Original message |
30. The problem I have with this debate is... |
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Nikia
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #30 |
56. It sounds like it will have a great deal of public space |
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Lost-in-FL
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
59. It is their home... |
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Quixote1818
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
32. Good points but we also weren't worried about Global warming when FDR was in office. |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. It would be great if he would set an example, but one house doesn't make or break anyone |
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Quixote1818
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. I agree mostly, but Edwards is a Democratic leader |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. I agree he could do better. And so could we all |
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Quixote1818
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. I think you and I basically agree |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Oh this will definitely undercut him. I'm just saying it shouldn't |
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Clark2008
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Sun Jan-28-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
92. But that's what some of us are concerned with. |
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ms liberty
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
39. Exellent points, and also... |
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NorthernSpy
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
43. well, the obvious difference is that FDR actually DID something for the poor... |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. I'm just saying a big house doesn't mean you have no right to fight for the poor |
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Contrary1
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
57. I would like to have an ignore feature on entire threads |
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Nikia
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
58. I agree |
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GreenArrow
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #58 |
103. those who posses empathy |
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Rabrrrrrr
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Sun Jan-28-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #103 |
108. Those with empathy tend not to make broad-brush judgments on others. |
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GreenArrow
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Sun Jan-28-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. you're right |
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surfermaw
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
63. Edwards stated he could afford many things |
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
64. classwar talk |
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prolesunited
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
65. How dare you come into GD |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. This makes me remember 2004 a little too well |
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pitohui
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
67. it's classic "crabs in a bucket," isn't it? |
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noamnety
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #67 |
89. Cutting down trees helps the environment. |
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Pathwalker
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Sometimes it does help the environment!!!! |
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noamnety
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. In the context of this thread, that's a dishonest post. |
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Pathwalker
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. You're calling ME dishonest???????? |
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noamnety
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. No, I'm calling the POST dishonest, in this context |
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Pathwalker
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. You said nothing about that in your post - you just |
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Nikia
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Sun Jan-28-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
112. If he plants other trees and shrubs, it can help |
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GreenArrow
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
104. "sure" he earned it |
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CelticWinter
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
72. It's really none of our buisness what he lives in---- |
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mrcheerful
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
74. They forgot how this country is really run, the fight starts at the top not the bottom |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Yes. It's not necessary for public good works to always be mirrored in private life |
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Kahuna
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
75. Bill Gates and Warren Buffet should withdraw their massive philanthropy |
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NCarolinawoman
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Sat Jan-27-07 11:05 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. Actually, Warren Buffet has lived in the same middle class home he lived in before he |
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Chalco
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Sat Jan-27-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. This whole thing is ridiculous. Edwards and a relative of mine |
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Jcrowley
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Sat Jan-27-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
80. No matter who it is |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. It is irresponsible. But it doesn't mean he shouldn't fight for the poor |
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Jcrowley
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Sat Jan-27-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Good point |
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jpgray
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Sat Jan-27-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. Forced to a choice, I'd prioritize sustaining lives over sustainable living |
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noamnety
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
97. Sustainable living DOES sustain lives |
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jpgray
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. It's not an exclusive choice. One can pursue both |
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Lorien
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
106. Well said. n/t |
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Sat Jan-27-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
87. Reason and logic mean nothing to some people |
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jpgray
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Sun Jan-28-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. Obsession with -any- one candidate can cloud judgment |
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Sun Jan-28-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
93. There is a real puritanical streak that runs through quite a few people on the left. |
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Sun Jan-28-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
94. "John Edwardsianmansion"? |
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Telly Savalas
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Sun Jan-28-07 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
102. I know you are, but what am I? |
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LSK
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Sun Jan-28-07 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
111. the original thread poked fun at the Kennedy's living in the streets |
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Sun Jan-28-07 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
113. They aren't as bad as the anti-Hilary threads. |
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