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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:26 AM Original message |
St. Pete chosen the 2nd meanest city in the country toward the homeless. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unrecommended the homeless? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Some people here can't stand acknowledging that poverty exists. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Someone unrec'd two Colombian kids blown up by bombs in the LatAm forum. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
16. Unbelievable. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Dupe |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. THOSE KIDS WERE OBVIOUSLY DRUG KINGPINS AND FARC KIDNAPPERS! |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
56. I've noticed some strange unrecs today |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. Oh, you wouldn't believe the "hate the homeless" coalition |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wasn't it Las Vegas that made it illegal to feed the homeless |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I think Orlando did also. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #4 |
48. And the great "liberal hero" Gavin Newsom got his big break in show business |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. Los Angeles, Ca??? What's the matter with Kansas? |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
6. To the greatest page (at least for now). n/t |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
8. The criminalization of poverty has been creeping across the nation for some time now. |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:45 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. I agree. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
10. Not a shock to this local. Amazed St Pete wasn't Number 1 by a longshot. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Both good Christian folks... |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:49 AM Response to Original message |
12. Nothing has changed - in 1970 we had a demonstration against ordinances in St. Pete |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. Christian conservatives have much power in central Florida |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Yes, and it was Christians like that that convinced me it is not a valid religion to live by |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
13. 4 FL cities, 3 CA cities...that's 7 of the top ten. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. Among the cities only Kalamazoo is in an area where it gets cold. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
49. And that's relevant because.....???????? ????????? ?? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 04:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. ????????? ???????????? ??????????????? ????????????? ????????? ??????????? ???????????? ???????????? |
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bad_robbie (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
67. relavance |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. it said it didn't post. |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 07:02 AM Response to Original message |
14. And not surprisingly, Baker ran Jeb Bush's first gubernatorial campaign. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:16 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I had forgotten about Jeb's first campaign |
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saltpoint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:43 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. Agree. He lays it on pretty thick, too. I think he goes to a fairly large |
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WI_DEM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
18. San Francisco and Berkeley!? they care I guess, but just don't want to see them. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
20. Des Moines pledges to move against homeless camps |
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lies and propaganda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
22. Total horseshit with SF and Berkeley |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Those cities gave homeless 400 a month? |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. It's true- but this was replaced with a "care not cash" program. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. San Francisco is a very attractive city - |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:46 PM Response to Reply #33 |
59. Ahh, yes, and here's a member of the DU "hate the homeless" |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. Yes- you seem to have made an attempt to lump me in that club as well. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I agree- we have MORE homeless folks than just about anyone. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
61. Maybe that is the result of handing them cash |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Gavin ran on giving people "care, not cash" and now they have neither. n/t |
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HillWilliam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
27. "basic activities like sitting on the sidewalk" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Probably doesn't give a whole picture. Many sides to the issue. |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Agreed- the article is informative and very interesting. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #30 |
60. Yeah, why didn't they just stay |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Why didnt they stay back East? Probably b/c unlike "mean" SF, there were fewer services-or none... |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
29. Here in SF -- |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Great post- thanx. n/t |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. I don't think people appreciate -- |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No easy solutions. BUT you don't make it illegal to feed them. |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Agree conpletely. |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #29 |
68. A good summary of a complex problem |
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lpbk2713 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. It might also be worth mentioning ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
34. I don't know if SF belongs on the list. 3 cities in Central Florida are on it. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
37. Not a big surprise we're back on the list -- but Berkeley?! |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Most likely the good weather. But some of St. Pete's laws are too much. |
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trumad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Orlando is right there with you ,,,, |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Berkeley got put on the list -- |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Not allowing people to sleep on sidewalks at 5PM is evidence of being "mean"? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Somehow I doubt the drunk businessman would have been kicked |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. You left out that detail- and I admit that you would be right. n/t |
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Dr Fate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
52. kick n/t |
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tucsonlib (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
53. Summing Up |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Wow. I had not heard that. |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-15-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
57. Wednesday, in my town: Council votes to keep homeless from lying, sitting sitting on sidewalks |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 07:50 AM Response to Original message |
62. Not surprised at all. We feed 45 to 70 every Saturday in Clearwater FL. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
63. "United We Stand" |
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Ilovevermont (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
64. Our culture teaches that poverty is disgraceful. |
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Retrograde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-16-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #64 |
69. As Jesus said, "The poor you will always have with you" |
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