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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 08:48 PM
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Deadliest Month For US GI's in Afghanistan- Tell me again how it's the "Good War?"
A roadside bomb killed four American troops in eastern Afghanistan on Monday, driving the July death toll for U.S. forces to the highest monthly level of the war.

The latest deaths brought to at least 30 the number of American service members who have died in Afghanistan this month — two more than the figure for all of June 2008, which had been the deadliest month for the U.S. since the 2001 U.S.-led invasion drove the Taliban from power.

July's death toll for the entire U.S.-led coalition, which includes American, British, Canadian and other forces, stands at 55 — well over the previous record of 46 deaths suffered in June and August of 2008.

U.S. commanders had predicted a bloody summer after President Barack Obama ordered 21,000 additional U.S. troops to Afghanistan in a bid to turn the tide against a resurgent Taliban and shift the focus on the global war against Islamic extremism from Iraq.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090720/ap_on_re_as/as_afghanistan

And then there's neighboring Pakistan. When did the US declare war on Pakistan. Don't tell me, Al Qaeda operatives getting married.

Two days of US drone attacks kill nearly 80 in Pakistan
By Barry Grey
9 July 2009

The United States fired multiple missiles from pilotless drones on Wednesday in two separate attacks on insurgents in Pakistan’s South Waziristan district, killing up to 60 people. The attacks followed a US missile strike in South Waziristan on Tuesday that reportedly killed 16 people.





http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/jul2009/paki-j09.shtml

Are Afghan Lives Worth Anything?



In those years, there were many in the U.S., including Davis, who insisted very publicly that a Vietnamese life had the same value as an American one. In the years of the Afghan War, Americans -- our media and, by its relative silence, the public as well -- turned Westmoreland's statement into a way of life as well as a way of war. As one perk of that way of life, most Americans have been able to pretend that our war in Afghanistan has nothing to do with us -- and Michael Jackson's death, everything.

So he dies and our world goes mad. An Afghan wedding party, or five of them, are wiped off the face of the Earth and even a shrug is too much effort.

Here's a question then: Will what we don't know (or don't care to know) hurt us? I'm unsure whether the more depressing answer is yes or no. As it happens, I have no answer to that question anyway, only a bit of advice -- not for us, but for Afghans: If, as General McChrystal and other top military figures expect, the Afghan War and its cross-border sibling in Pakistan go on for another three or four or five years or more, no matter what script we're going by, no matter what we say, believe me, we'll call in the planes. So if I were you, I wouldn't celebrate another marriage, not in a group, not in public, and I'd bury my dead very, very privately.

If you gather, after all, we will come.

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/07/07-15
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:14 PM
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1. It's a bullshit "war". It's not a war, it's just another military invasion.
A foreign military power can never kill its way to "peace" in someone else's country. Sure, it can murder hundreds, or thousands, or even millions of the native population, but all it will ever accomplish is the hardening of the resistance by the militants and multiply the suffering of the civilians.

And in the end, just as in Vietnam, you will have to leave. Because the longer you stay, the more people will be killed, and the more they will hate you and want you out of their country.

We have no business being in Afghanistan. Our presence only makes things worse.

sw
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:20 PM
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2. Its not a good war
Edited on Mon Jul-20-09 09:21 PM by maryf
Its a way to maintain control of the oil and the means of transport (pipeline), its an aggressive occupation...K&R
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:29 AM
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10. Occupation is the correct description -
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maryf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 11:34 AM
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16. Gotta keep that strategic position too!!
:hi:
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:25 PM
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3. No war is "good" but this war is just
it would be huge mistake to let Aghanistan return to the way it operated pre 9/11
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:30 PM
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6. That does not mean the war is just
and nothing can change 9-11 nor events since.

we can only change the future.
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 07:05 AM
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9. How so?
I must have missed the trial that determined who committed the criminal act on 9/11.

I'm interested in your knowledge of Afghan history. Please give me a bit of historical background.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:32 AM
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12. you're right it's just.....just fucked.
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Liberation Angel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:29 PM
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4. K&R Obama has got to end this. It is a Millstone around his neck
and will surely tarnish him for all history.

He can do lots of good --- but if he does not get us out he will be just like LBJ in Vietnam.

With globalist advisors like Brzezinski, who needs enemies?

It is an illegal war IMHO and a mistake. The TALIBAN did not attack us on 9-11. The Saudis did. Bush's sponsors and financial backers did. And probably with Bush's complicity.

It is a crime and one which is ongoing.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:29 PM
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5. its vietnam 3.
and its not just. its bullshit.


every soldiers death there now is obamas fault.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:53 PM
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7. K&R
Now at +5.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-20-09 09:55 PM
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8. I thought the new measure is dumb war.
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:30 AM
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11. K&R n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:33 AM
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13. There is no good war my brother
Just US hawkish foreign policy
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:40 AM
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14. Recommend
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 10:54 AM
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15. Funerals and wedding parties. They're all breeding grounds for bad guys.
Nothing a drone or two or ten can't take care of.

It's a "just war". What the fuck does that mean?

I say we should kill anyone wearing a Taliban uniform, or sporting an Al-Queda badge on their shirt.
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-21-09 12:03 PM
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17. k&r
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