Oh, Freep jobs! I think this is what you're looking for.

[BurtWorm]

[SteppingRazor]

1. NOES!!111! ITS TEH FORGERIE!!11!!!!!

[atreides1]

2. Looks just like the one...

...that my daughter and my two younger brothers got when they were born. But, we Hawaiians are part of a conspiracy that goes all the way back to 1961, just ask any of the Birthers!!!

[rvablue]

5. I've been dying to ask a Hawaiian this:

Could you please ask all of your neighbors, friends, etc. if any of them have this mysterious "long form birth certificate" of which the freepers seek?

Because, as you have affirmed, it seems to be that this is the official document issued by the state of Hawaii in order to prove place of birth.

Maybe all of the Freepers are so ancient (no offense to the elderly) that all of their BC's were penned in ornate caligraphy on papyrus scrolls? :rofl:





ed: wd. ch.

[nadinbrzezinski]

41. Papyrus, you got that wrong

now cong shells on the other hand

You funny

[dorkulon]

46. If they did produce the "long form" whatever (if it even exists) it would be dismissed as a forgery

immediately. That's how these things work.

[YOY]

3. It's teh doktered!

He yused hiz konektions in Iran 'coz there FReeps are teh eksperts at dis stuff!!one11!

[gratuitous]

4. It says his mother's name is Stanley!

She's a dude, man!!!11!Eleven!

[baldguy]

6. No, they want the long form, hard copy "BIRTH CERTIFICATE"

The one with the Doc's signature & the kids' paw prints inked on it. Never mind that the more common "Certificate Of Live Birth" with the same info copied onto it & with a state notary seal on it is considered to be legal Proof of Birth and would be adequate when applying for a drivers' license, passport - or when running for President.

[MrsBrady]

30. i have a long form (texas) of mine somewhere

but it's still a copy.

I didn't realize that there was a long/short form until I requested one and got the short form.

They told me I had to request the long form specifically. I'm sure that Hawaii has something similar.

However, I don't think anything would satisfy these cooks.

Edit: oh yea, and it still says he was born in Hawaii. So that's enough for him to be president.
They just don't want a Black man to be president, that had a "musilin" heritage.

[Iris]

33. and a splatter from the afterbirth would be good as well

[baldguy]

34. Good thinking! Make sure he's not a Grey from Zeta Reticuli.

Maybe he's an alien illegal alien.

[Mz Pip]

7. There's another one

that someone posted yesterday that was funny as hell. I wish I had bookmarked the thread.

It was an hysterical mock up of what Obama's Kenyan birth certificate would look like. I hope it gets posted again.

[redqueen]

10. Here ya go.

:)

[Contrary1]

13. "B-Rock 'The Islamic Shock'"

:rofl:

[Mz Pip]

15. Oh, thank you thank you!

:loveya:

I will use this well. :evilgrin:

[redqueen]

17. My pleasure!

:hi:

[ColbertWatcher]

22. If you need any dumbass picture related to Obama created by a freeper ...

... I have collected a whole metric tardload of them in the Truthiness Encyclopedia's tubes.

You can start here, but there's more here and here, too.

In fact, you can search the whole wiki and find something that mocks their warped worldview.

[givemebackmycountry]

8. It iz not teh reel birf certikate

It ain't got no little feets on it so it iz not teh real 1.

[Liberal In Texas]

9. What do the birthers say about the birth announcement in the newspaper? Also fake?

Somebody used a time machine and went back to 1961 and put it in?

Sheesh.

[lolly]

27. Yes

That's pretty much their argument.

Maybe not an actual time machine. I believe someone (one of the grandparents?) planted the birth announcement in the Hawaii paper, feeding the false info to the paper.

[Liberal In Texas]

37. I see, because they knew it would be important 40 some years later.

:crazy:

[lolly]

48. Although I may have spoken to soon

About not believing in a time machine.

Any minute now, I'm expecting one of them to show up on teevee arguing that Obama is, in fact, the owner of an insidious time machine device who has managed to go back in time and change history so that he can take over the world.

And that he has the original inventor, Christopher Lloyd, tied up in the basement of the White House.

[whopis01]

49. No time machine involved...

This was all planned out from back then. It was all part of Acorn's plan.

[Richardo]

11. "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."

:eyes:

[lpbk2713]

12. Next they will want a sworn affidavit ...

from every individual who was in the hospital that particular day.

[The_Casual_Observer]

14. I wonder how they ever got this whole flap/rumor started anyway.

This birth cerficiate has been readily available from the start.

I guess it's the same sort of stupid brainless lack of mentality that allows pyramid & ponzi schemes to happen.

[onethatcares]

16. I've heard that

President Obama has spent $928,587,396.23 paying people off so they wouldn't release that birth certificate. I've also heard that Mr. Barrack Obama has held 130 other jobs that he didn't pay taxes on during the time he has been a senator, and lived in 34 other cities than Chicago during the same time.

Maybe we have a teleporting guy in the whitehouse and we're just to dumb to realize it. :wtf:

[Mz Pip]

19. This is what someone on

whose name I don't remember said about this yesterday on MSNBC. There were rumors going around that Obama had changed his middle name from Mohammed to Hussein (like that would be sooo much better) and to so stop that one in it's tracks Obama released his birth certificate to show his full name. Then some idiots decided it was fake and the rest is history.

Maybe it was O'Donnell or Wolffe. I'm sure someone who watches either Hardball or Countdown would remember the exchange better than I do.

[lolly]

28. Hussein v. Mohammed

Reminds me of Robin Hood Men in Tights

How did you get the name "Latrine?"

Oh, that's not the original name. We changed it.

You changed it TO "Latrine?"

It used to be "Shithouse!"

[kiapolo]

18. This isn't the Birth Certificate issued at least prior to 1977 (the year I was born).

These are new "copies" of the birth certificates, but are NOT the original versions. The birth certificate that Obama's parents, and up until a few years ago, would have received looked like this:

I know Chiyome Fukino personally (the Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health), we go to church together. I 've asked her about this "original version" of Obama's birth certificate, and she said she's seen it and it does exist.

My only question is why not authorize the release of this original version? it just creates a distraction and makes the president look like he's hiding something and not as transparent as he's promised (not like that promise was ever upheld)...

[BurtWorm]

20. You have a point.

On the other hand, racist birthers don't deserve the dignity of a serious reply. Were they asking John McCain, Panama man, to supply a birth certificate? Would they ask any white man?

[Mz Pip]

21. Probably for a couple of reasons

1. He doesn't have to. The one he presented is legal because the State of Hawaii says so. It's more than any other president has provided.

2. It wouldn't matter. There is no appeasing these COLB conspiracy nutjobs. They have created their own reality and they would just come up with reasons why they think it's fake.

[ColbertWatcher]

23. So very, very true. n/t

[me b zola]

25. "why not authorize the release of this original version? "

Short answer: IT'S FUN.

Fun to watch as the millions of Americans who were swayed to vote republican can see the idiocy & insanity of the base of the party and how much sway they have over their congress critters. Fun to watch the veil ripped off to expose the hateful, racism that is the base of their party. Fun to watch the republican party implode. :party:

[Dennis Donovan]

29. These nuts are dragging the Republican Party down with them!

The birthers are the best thing for us since the Schiavo circus!:rofl:

[lolly]

31. So, why doesn't she copy it and release it?

If it's that easy to do?

If you ask for a certified birth certificate now, you'll get the computer p/o Obama's campaign got. They got it, they released it. It is legally recognized proof of his birth in Hawaii.

If they won't accept it, what on earth makes you think the "Look at the kerning" crowd would accept a copy of the above?

And, as I mentioned in another post, the pre-computerized version of the b/c you've reproduced here would be pretty easy to forge or alter. Much easier than the version generated for current requests.

[kiapolo]

36. Easy

post both of them together.

Like I said, I was born in 1977, and I have both copies. I'm sure if the President of the United States asked for a copy of the original, this state, of all States, would oblige...

I don't doubt it exists, like I said, I know Dr. Fukino personally, we've talked about this subject ad nauseum... and even if he was born in Kenya, or Panama, or anywhere else in the world, if he is born to an female American citizen, then he is a natural born citizen (a VERY loose vague term).

These stupid issues take on a life of their own, now you have major news outlets discussing this issue, it's no longer the fringe issue it once was. If Obama had released his original documents, this wouldn't be an issue anymore...

[csziggy]

32. So why didn't your buddy, Dr. Chiyome Fukino refer you back to this press release?

For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.

“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”
###
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

There is absolutely no reason for any one to have to see the 'original' - the certified copy that is posted on the internet is valid for every legal purpose.

So welcome to DU and get off the whacko crazy birther freeper bus or we might start thinking you are a troll.

[kiapolo]

35. then why not just authorize the release of the original?!?!?!

This issue is beginning to take on a life of it's own. Just release the original and be done with it. What you think this Administration needs another distraction from, hmmm, what else...National Health Care? Passing cap and trade law? Doing away with DADT? I can go on...

I'm not on a bus, this was a subject that was raised by someone else. I think this birth certificate thing should have been nipped in the bud a long time ago. No matter how many new certificates, or statements by State officials, Obama should take the mantle of transparency (finally) and be done with this...

Sorry you can't handle debate without going all ad hominem...

[csziggy]

38. States do not release originals - it is not done.

Don't believe me, contact your state Bureau of Vital Statistics and ask them to release the original of your birth certificate so you can prove that it can be done. If you were born in Hawaii ask your good buddy, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, to help get it released. She will be happy to explain that originals are not released. That is the point to the archives of state records, that they be kept and not given out. That is what a certified copy is - a copy that is certified to be accurate.

And even if the original were released, that would not satisfy the insane. They will not believe any truth concerning Obama's birth. Proof of any kind will never be enough

Obama has released a copy of his birth certificate as issued by the State of Hawaii in the only form that Hawaii releases at this point in time. The state officials have verified that the copy available on the internet is a true copy and that the original is in their files.

Anyone who does not believe that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen of the US who was born in Hawaii will never believe the truth and is crazy or has chosen for some insane reason to believe in non-existent conspiracy theories.

Since you seem to be parroting the insane birther line, you certainly seem to be on their bus. Sorry if I confused you with them since you are using all their favorite arguments.

[anneboleyn]

42. Yawn. Four posts to this poster's "concerned" credit. We all know what that means...

[redqueen]

50. Apparently not...

they're still with us.

Surprising.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

45. About your close personal friend

You've discussed the birth certificate with her ad nauseum. I'm just dying to know--what did she say about it? After all of the long and heartfelt conversations the two of you had about the birth certificate that she's seen with her own eyes, surely you've got some insight as to what's on this "long form" birth certificate. Spill the beans, let us know. Was he born in Kenya? Indonesia? Does it turn out that his father is actually Don Ho?

I'd really like for you to open up and tell us all about it in your 5th post here, and in so doing, burn your close personal friend the doctor by betraying her secrets to some people on the Internet you've never spoken to before.

I don't believe a single word you say. I firmly believe you're a liar who has never met the doctor in question. Whether or not you even reside in Hawaii is anyone's guess. Anyway, you're a meaningless twit, and I'll be mildly amused for about 18 seconds when you're banned, then I'll never think about you again. Try a more gullible group next time around...it's difficult for the hapless to see just how hapless they are sometimes; it's a matter of perspective, I think. Later.

[Number23]

47. rofl

[Yuugal]

24. Just more fake proof from the corporate appeasers!

My top five reasons why Obama can't be my president:

1) I first noticed it in the debates. Whenever Obama is filmed its obvious there is more than one light source. Since the solar system only has 1 sun, Obama was obviously faked.

2) How is it the plans for the Obama unit were lost? Wouldn't the govt have realized that they might need change again at a later date and kept a copy of the plans? Now they are saying the plans were on microfilm all along in safe storage? Typical shameless crap the govt always pulls.

3)No dust on Obama's feet. Anyone who knows anything about physics would know that even the force of a fart could move dust around and yet this man walks the earth for more than 4 decades and still has clean shoes? I call bullshit.

4)The Martin Van Buren belts would have killed him.

5)The msm and govt agree. When this happens, you always know we are being lied to.

6) No stars in the background. Watch his press conferences and tell me where the stars are?

Please stop the lies.....

[SleeplessInAlabama]

26. I'm currently in a battle of wits with one on another site

The argument is that prima facie evidence is only good until contested, not REFUTED as the concept really is.
You give facts A,B, and C.
They divert topic to legal concept D.
You give facts about legal concept D.
They call you an idiot.

You really can't win this.

[Liberal Gramma]

39. Does anybody else think it's strange

that the same people who demand Obama's "original" birth certificate are completely uninterested in seeing the birth certificate of Sarah Palin's youngest? The one she flew 14 hours in labor to have in a small hospital two hours from the airport? In fact, they are offended if Palin's story is questioned.

[optimal-tomato]

40. No.

Palin's white. She's a Republican.

In their eyes, she's on the right side, and never lies.

[lonestarnot]

43. Those stupid fuckers aren't really looking for anything. They just want their mostly fat asses on

nat'l TV pretending in front of the nation that they know something. :smallsnort:

[orleans]

44. obviously it's been photoshopped--and they forgot to add those

two tiny footprints!

:sarcasm:

[handmade34]

51. it is NOT about a birth certificate

it is about this guy http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81581 Joseph Farah, his fundamentalist wife and his dedication to Isreal's security...