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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:40 AM
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Bill Maher on Imus: He doesn't get it either. It must be great to be white. And oblivious.
Maher is in full "move on - he's apologized" mode. One mistake. Get over it. He's talked to "his black friends" and they don't have their panties in a knot.

Here's the deal, Bill-O: You are right about a lot of things, but you are so very wrong about this. Don Imus has been a hate spewing, character destroying asshole for YEARS. Bill Maher - THIS IS NOT FAKE OUTRAGE.

Maher is speaking from his cocoon of white privilege. Damn, that must be comfy. Sleep so well at night, too. Just get over it.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:48 AM
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1. I never understood why people watch a show that they hate
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:53 AM
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2. To know what the movers and shakers are thinking. Is that Jeff Zucker sauntering onto the set??
President of NBC-Universal? Looks like it, but not under the lights to can't tell. If so - that's making a HELL of a statement.

AND I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHY PEOPLE FEEL THE NEED TO NEGATIVELY COMMENT ON SOMETHING THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

Maybe do a little research.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:56 AM
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5. I understand perfectly well. Unfortunately,you are part of the
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 06:04 AM by durrrty libby
hysterical, can't see the forest through the trees mob

BTW, Using all caps doesn't make you seem more intelligent.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:03 AM
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37. I never watch Imus or O'Leilly,
but I know that both shouldn't be given a bully pulpit. They are nothing but hate mongers and rabble rousers. Of course FAUX is a rightwing tabloid and NOTHING else, but MSNBC is trying to rise above this designation (e.g. the nightly presence of Keith Olberman and the increasingly moderate voice of conservativism, Joe Scarborough). MSNBC should definitely ax Imus. It will help immensely in their reform efforts.
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madville Donating Member (743 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:54 AM
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3. I thought he was suspended ?
I just flipped it on a few minutes ago and there he is. 95% of the people I know have never even heard of Imus before, I don't think most people give a crap about his shriveled ass one way or the other. His act has always been that he is an asshole, if he still gets ratings and generates revenue he will be on the air.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:58 AM
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6. I forgot the reason
but the suspension starts next week. I believe it was something about a fund drive. I'm sure another DU'er will fill you in.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:06 AM
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10. I think that's correct
Imus has some sort of fundraiser this week, I believe, so the suspension will start when that is over.
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:54 AM
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4. Maher has shared his cocoon of white privilege with a lot of black
women. I don't think Bill Maher is on there because he thinks what Imus said wasn't wrong, but because he went through a similar incident where he apologized over and over and still his show was taken off the air. Remember "Politically Incorrect" and the statement Maher made about the terrorists being the "brave" ones. I never took it that he was admiring the terrorists and calling our troops cowards; however, there were many who felt that he was so he lost his job. Of course, what came out of Imus's mouth was pretty clear and it wasn't funny. At the time he said it, it was suppose to be some kind of dry humor . . .of which it was not but a hurtful comment.

I don't think he should lose his job. Look at Oxycontin Limpballs and literally what comes out of his mouth everyday. Now that is a racist.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:02 AM
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9. I don't think Maher should have lost his show. I think Imus SHOULD. He's like a drunk driver
who keeps drinking, driving, killing people, apologizing - not just a repeat offender - a PERPETUAL offender. Take a look at the compilation below - it's just a dabbling of crap that goes on EVERY day - and has for DECADES. It's time for this sh*t to stop. And for the enablers, who live in their monied cocoons to STOP associating with this *sshole.

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Why does Tim Russert associate with Don Imus' bigotry?
Submitted by jonathan on 5 April, 2007 - 10:10pm. Media Literacy/Bias | Newswire
Full Story:


If you're concerned about bigotry on the syndicated radio show Imus in the Morning, you should just "get over it."

That's what the show's star, Don Imus, told journalist Jeff Greenfield on CNN's Larry King Live last week (2/24/00). Greenfield was questioning Imus about recent columns in two prominent newspapers that documented a pattern of slurs by Imus and his on-air sidekicks against people of color, gay men and lesbians (Boston Globe, 2/23/00; Newsday, 2/22/00--see below).

Imus himself has referred to one African-American journalist as "a cleaning lady," another as a "quota hire," and tennis player Amelie Mauresmo as "a big old lesbo." Imus taunted another reporter as a "beanie-wearing little Jewboy," called a disabled colleague "the cripple," and has said that he picked one of his producers to do "nigger jokes" (60 Minutes, 7/19/98).

National politicians and beltway journalists have brought the Imus in the Morning show to nationwide prominence--the show is now carried by cable network MSNBC--by making Imus a regular stop on their media rounds.

One such reporter is NBC's Tim Russert--the same Tim Russert who, on his own NBC show, was unsparing in questioning George W. Bush about the candidate's appearance at Bob Jones University in South Carolina (Meet the Press, 2/13/00).

Russert wondered if Bush's appearance at a school with a history of anti-Catholic bigotry and racial discrimination was "giving affirmation to that institution." He asked Bush: "But people who know you and respect you and like you say, 'George W. Bush, Thomas Burch and Bob Jones III aren't your kind of people. Why are you associating with them?'"

ACTION: Ask Tim Russert whether his appearances on the Imus in the Morning show give "affirmation" to the kind of obvious racism that is featured on the program. Ask him whether the line of questioning he had for Bush applies to his own appearances on the "Imus in the Morning" show.

Contact: Tim Russertmtp@msnbc.com

The following is a column by journalist Philip Nobile, who has been monitoring the "Imus in the Morning" program. This column appeared in Long Island (N.Y.) Newsday on February 22.

Sick Relationship: Media Stars, Racist Imus

By Philip Nobile

It is not David Remnick's style to play ball with bigots.

Remnick is the editor of The New Yorker, a biographer of boxer Muhammad Ali, a friend of the legendary writer Ralph Ellison and a race writer of deserved renown. You would not catch him accepting a book award from a lug like John Rocker, even if it carried a large cash prize. Hypothetically again, he would refuse to plug the 75th anniversary of his magazine on Rocker's radio show, despite an audience of millions.

But high-end media create unexpected bedfellows--including Remnick and Don Imus, the Rocker of morning radio and MSNBC, who makes routine sport of race, sex and physical minorities, while buying off powerful, straight white journalists with lavish national air time to sell themselves and their products.

Among the cream of the press who regularly beat a path to Imus' golden door are Tom Brokaw, Tim Russert, Dan Rather, Cokie Roberts, Howard Fineman, Frank Rich, Jonathan Alter and Jeff Greenfield.

Since Imus paid Remnick $50,000 last year under the cover of the Imus Book Award, Remnick is compromised more than his peers. Still, it behooves one to wonder why he stooped to appear on Imus' show last week. Surely he knows that Imus is a lowbrow smear artist--far closer to Roy Cohn than H.L. Mencken--who revels in speech that would be banned from The New Yorker.

Remnick would never print a David Denby review comparing "the gorilla special effects in Instinct" to "the starting line-up of the Knicks." Nor would he permit his tennis correspondent to call Amelie Mauresmo a "a big old lesbo"* or the Williams sisters "two booma-chucka, big-butted women" or an Indian men's doubles team "Gunga Din and Sambo." If Hendrik Hertzberg, The New Yorker's press critic, handed in copy scorning sports columnist Bill Rhoden as a "New York Times quota hire,"* PBS anchor Gwen Ifill as a "cleaning lady,"* and Talk as a magazine for "liberal homosexuals,"* Remnick would suspend him on the spot and maybe recommend therapy. Yet all the vile words quoted above were broadcast via Imus in the Morning (the asterisks indicate emanations from the host himself).

Remnick may believe that his hands are clean because Imus was polite to him.

Wisely, Imus knocks off calling the Knicks "chest-bumping pimps" with C-SPAM's Brian Lamb and stifles lesbian references to Hillary Rodham Clinton with Doris Kearns Goodwin. But when the respectables are out of the room, the hoods are donned.

For example, within minutes of Remnick's guest shot, Imus ridiculed a cable commentator at the Westminster dog show as a homosexual, not once but twice, and kidded his producer's propensity to mock blacks, as in the jibe, go "make fun of more Negroes." But the latter remark was no mere jibe. In 1997, Imus carelessly told a 60 Minutes staffer off-mike that Bernard McGuirk, his program producer, was tapped to do "nigger jokes." Mike Wallace exposed this incriminating usage in his 60 Minutes profile. Trapped in a Mark Fuhrman moment, what did Imus do? He lied, that is, he denied the staffer's word. When Wallace redoubtably called Imus' bluff on camera, Imus partially relented, insisting that his remark was off the record but nonetheless failing to apologize.

Regrettably, last Tuesday in these pages Noel Rubinton missed the real story behind Imus' red-hot role in presidential politics, which is: How does a shock jock who says "nigger" in private and analogizes blacks to apes in public, get White House aspirants like Bill Bradley, John McCain, Al Gore and Alan Keyes eating from his unclean hands?

In fact, each of the above moral leaders were faxed transcripts of Imus' un-American utterances before recent appearances on the show. Yet none was deterred, not even Bradley who is running on his puffed-up race and gay-rights record. All politicians are reputed to be scoundrels. So they have found their scoundrel time on Imus in the Morning. Coincidentally, Newsday employs the only clear-eyed Imus critic in the press.

Les Payne, columnist and assistant managing editor, has consistently accused Imus of slinging night soil on the least of the brethren. After lampooning Rubinton's valentine last week, along with previous softcore tributes in The New Yorker and Newsweek, Imus rendered Payne a backdoor compliment. "Who's the racist guy out at Newsday who always is attacking me?" he said. "Les Payne. I much prefer his columns because he's a flat-out racist. The guy accuses me, of course, of being one.... The guy retains some dignity, even though they're essentially racist columns, not essentially, they are racist."

Being labeled a racist by the I-Man--how sweet the sound! Too bad Payne is the only journalist in America to hear it.

Source URL:
www.fair.org/index.php?page=1751

http://reclaimthemedia.org/media_literacy_bias/why_does_tim_russert_associate=5094
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frankly_fedup2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:16 AM
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12. I don't think firing him and him losing his career is fair because of the other
media voices out there that are worse. Sharpton has no right to throw stones. I think they should take half of Imus's salary and give it to the NAACP. After all, these were young college women and with a large donation to the NAACP, it will help others with their college education.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 05:59 AM
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7. I'd say that DU doesn't get it either, and here's why.
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 06:27 AM by Skidmore
There are a lot of long knives out on these boards right now. What we are failing to recognize is that this is a rare teaching moment for the nation with the media and our fellow citizens. As much as I abhor the comments Imus made and the rancid people he has surrounded himself with, this is an opportunity to teach someone how to change and in a very public way. To convert someone from using callous and hateful language to thinking about the impact of his words. This is a chance to create a new dialectic and in the haste to punish, I fear we will lose a catalyst for real change and at a crucial time. People can change and they can learn. If we want to teach tolerance, which we are all so ready to condemn, then let's seize the moment to condemn but truly teach this very public man about people who are not like him AND people who are like him. Learning to recognize your own biases and prejudices when they are mirrored elswhere in society is key to changing the way you interact with others.

Let us rethink the importance of this event and use it constructively.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:24 AM
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14. I agree with this n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:36 AM
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17. Skidmore, your comments are wise and thoughtful. I hope we can talk and learn and understand
more about racism, using this as a catalyst for change of hearts and minds. There is a lot of racism and sexism that people are so acculturated to, they don't recognize it or understand it for what it is.

The problem for Imus is - he has done this for decades. The apologies are periodic, but the racism, sexism, homophobia and hate are the mother's milk of his program. And the patronage and protection he gets from the likes of Tim Russert, John Kerry, John McCain, Brian Williams, Tom Brokaw, Jeff Greenfield, James Carville, Doris Kearns Goodwin - and you know I could go on and on....

It's time to put Don Imus - and all his ilk - out of business.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:39 AM
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18. Great post, Skidmore.
:thumbsup:
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:40 AM
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19. One of the most intelligent things I have heard
lately on these boards. I get tired of the apologists on one side and the virulent, hostility and generalizations on the other side.
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lectrobyte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:16 AM
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28. A note of reason in a storm of, well not sure exactly what, thank you.
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mloutre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:04 PM
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45. Very thoughtful and well-considered comment, Skidmore.
I'm sure you'll get bunches of angry PM's as a result of it. *sigh*
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:01 AM
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8. oblivious is the correct word.
I'm always amazed at other white people (I"m white) that don't "get it". Even when I try to explain it to them, they're clueless.
As my coworker points out, the blatant racists are at least more honest about it. The sneaky racists are the ones that really inhibit you, because they continue to think of themselves as enlightened creatures, OBLIVIOUS to their own toxic attitudes.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:11 AM
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11. Anus' Anger Is Just Below The Surface
This dude feels he's the victim. Don't believe the bullshit of how bad he feels...he's bringing on his buddies and others to "absolve" him of being a mean, nasty bastard...as though this will work.

I find some interesting parallels in this story with that of Plamegate...and the cronyism the corporate media has. If you're a member of the "fraternity", you can spew hate and intolerance and everyone thinks you're laughing it off. What a pile of shit.

I noticed Anus has his usual hyenas locked away...and how his contrition is staggered with rejoiners of what a "nice person I am" and "I am not a racist" and so on. If this were the case, many of us would be willing to forgive as well, but Anus has long made a name for himself with this kind of rhetoric...then hiding behind his beltway buddies when he's taken into account.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:30 AM
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15. You're right
He does feel like he's the victim. How come no one has called him on his longterm vitrolic denigration of women on his show. he doesn't just have a history of racist comments, but sexist too. He goes off on hillary Clinton almost daily and says things about her I wouldn't think he could say on air.

He's a big ole crybaby who just doesn't get it. My father, same age is almost exactly the same way. He still calls 50 year old waitresses "girls" and he still subscribes to racist stereotyping when he's genuinely nice to people of color when he interacts with them.

And then he has the gall to get angry when I call him on his bullshit. Maybe it's an old white man thing.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:42 AM
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20. Yes he calls Senator Clinton "Satan" several times a week
Funny, no one here ever cared about that.

Why is that?

It is because so many here love calling her names. Just more

mob mentality

The disingenuousness here is disgusting and transparent
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:22 AM
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29. They've said far worse [vulgar] about HClinton and NO ONE cares. Sexism is okay. nt
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:08 PM
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46. he calls her 'that horrible woman' all the time, at least whenever I hear him
refer to her

he really hates both of them

can't imagine it has anything to do with the SCABROUS presentation he gave one year at one of them dinners. I heard that one, and it made Colbert's speech seem like total asskissage, with the difference that it was just VILE, crude, sexually oriented (he DID have a funny gibe about Peter Jennings, though)
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:48 AM
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22. Excellent Observation
I can't split if he's more a racist or a mysognist. As though it matter. Yes...he's had a long history of insulting many different people...he claims he's "picking on them" in the manner Coulter claims she's just "joking", but you can hear the ease and reguarlity of this language shows how close to the surface it is. It's trying to dress up the pig by calling it a "funny" pig.

I've noticed he's keeping his hyenas, like Bernard McGuirk (whose worse than Imus) out of sight...and for good reason. What happened here was Imus forgot for a moment he wasn't in the back office with his buddies, but in the studio. And, yes, now he feels this is a lone incident and somehow he's being misunderstood. Pathetic!
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:19 AM
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13. Like my sister said,
I'm black and can't say what Imus said (and still have teeth left).
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:32 AM
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16. I would agree with Maher if Imus hadn't done similar things many times before.
It's not a first offense, according to many who worked with him at WNBC he was openly racist and of course there are several examples of his saying other inappropriate things on the air.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:46 AM
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21. Today Show: 3 black guests say Imus should go. I white (Carville) says he should stay.
I'm telling you. Black people are SICK of this shit. And too many white people just don't get it. This is not a one-time incident. It hasn't happened a FEW times. This is his constant MO. This IS his schtick.

I shake my head that so many can't understand.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:57 AM
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24. Well it seems to be an Imus suck-fest going on now.
Everyone telling him how big his heart is and all. More than one white guest has been on and every one of them has called for him to stay on. I can't believe I've fallen victim to this really, I'm usually watching Washington Journal.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:12 AM
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26. LOL. Me too! But how this plays out updates us on the "score".
Is it - once again - business as usual? Imus has been through this so many times before. And the Russerts and Greenfields and McCains and Kerrys just keep coming back.

And now, Imus is actually reneging on his pledge to take his punishment, by running this perpetual pity party parade about all the great things he's done. He's still making excuses.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:21 AM
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40. I thought Jeff Greenfield kind of took him to school, though
Too many people have given Imus a pass on this stuff for too long. If his guests have been willing to overlook it, if the network has been constantly willing to overlook it, then there are a lot more people just as complicit in what happened this week. Of course at some point Imus was going to step way over the fence, but over the years he has been given the long leash to do so. There IS, as Greenfield pointed out, a rougher edge in the way that the show treats African-Americans -- a double standard, if you will.

I think that the two-week suspension should have started today, radiothon or not. Taking him off the air a week and a half (almost) later sends a message in and of itself.





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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:07 AM
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25. Are you aware that his schtick is
not just aimed at Blacks. His humor is (and has always been) to degrade EVERYONE. This even includes his wife who he has referred to as the 'green ho'. The outrage and piling on on this board is getting boring IMO.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:16 AM
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27. Then stop
Reading the posts about him. I've always thought he was disgusting and I don't watch him. It's hard to miss everytime he crosses some imaginary line.

You're probably one of those people who think kids calling each other "fag" is acceptable and funny.

It kills me how many people don't get that words do matter. That what someone with a microphone and a platform does influence people.

But keep going on how people are overreacting and "piling on" poor, poor Don Imus.

To me, calling someone a ho is bad enough. It's disgusting, but women should be used to it by now, right? Cause aren't we all hos? At least according to men.

Well fuck that. So I'm going to express my outrage about this pig. he's not much better than limpballs. Fuck that, he's just as bad.

And if you don't like it, maybe *you* should stay away from the Imus threads.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:27 AM
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30. Words do matter gaspee,
so therefore your dissing and coming to conclusions of what I think or do not think makes me sad especially because you are wrong about me. But if you think lashing out at me (someone with a different opinion than you) makes you feel better then go ahead. IMO the vitriol and anger at Imus can be better spent on other things but what do I know. I'm just someone in the world trying to spread love and understanding. Have a good day.
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:55 AM
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35. Hmmm
Passive aggressive much?
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RobinA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:21 AM
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39. Well...
Add this white girl to those black people, although I'm coming at it from both the racist AND misogynist angles. This is more than just race. Imus, Stern...professional bashers. I don't want him/them off the air for punishment, I want him/them off the air because this kind of talk should not be acceptable in a public forum. If I went to my job and called people nappy-headed 'hos, I'd be fired for being an offensive jerk. Of course, I don't get PAID for being an offensive jerk, but then, why should anyone be.

And the Maher example is in no way analogous. Maher made a political comment about an existing situation involving a country of which he is a citizen.
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 06:52 AM
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23. White, oblivious and rich.
Edited on Tue Apr-10-07 06:54 AM by deminks
Money makes everything better, makes everything go away, entitles one to anything and everything.

The hubris is amazing. He (Ipig or Maher, take your pick) thinks he is entitled to do what he does. He actually thinks he is better than anyone else. He and Smirk should be closer than they are. Maybe they really are close.
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Venus Dog Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:30 AM
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31. And since when is Maher a policy expert
His interviewed on all the talking heads shows as if he were a stateman or something. If he were on Larry King any more, he could be regarded as a piece of the stage furniture:wtf:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:45 AM
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33. Ah, Jeff Greenfield now copping to the I-Club "not getting" the racist, sexist crap.
Mentions Anna Quindlen. Asks, "has any Senator or Governor or anyone ever called you off the air and said - you went too far?" Is getting into the insularity of the club - and obliviousness of the group. At the same time, urges Imus to not become a Kumbaya show.

BUT, "you really don't need the crude, out of line racist stuff". "The rules are different now, and we who do your show need to call you on it". Whether we didn't before because we liked being on your show, or were too afraid of your show."

Greenfield did point out how all the black parodies sound like Stepin fetchit. Imus defends "We made a conscious effort to make the black people sound different."

Greenfield: obviously you failed.

Okay...Greenfield, trying to find the right balance of support and chastising.

Oh crap - Imus talking about "vicious racism" within black community between light and dark-skinned. Oh hell. He's an expert now.
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Frank Cannon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:42 AM
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32. Didn't Bill Maher lose HIS job over something he said?
Fired by ABC, I believe, for saying the 9-11 suicide attackers had courage.
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:27 AM
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42. That's the first thing I thought of... when I heard him apologizing
for Imus. Maher can be a selfish asshole at times.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:49 AM
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34. If it's any consolation, the Imus show is most likely dead now anyway.
Who wants to tune in to the Imus "Greening the Cleaning/Apology" Hour? It was pretty boring prior to the brouhaha, this can only make the show less watchable.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 07:56 AM
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36. I thought Imus was off the air for 2 weeks????
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:23 AM
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41. Begins Monday
I think it should have begun today, however...
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michaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:04 AM
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38. I think Bill Maher happens to be right.
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Joe Fields Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 08:30 AM
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43. This is the circus atmosphere that we live in today.


Bloviating rich, white and famous apologists for a chronic miscreant.
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-10-07 09:01 AM
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44. Russert, Brokaw, Kerry, Lieberman, Quindlen, all the "gang" need to talk about their enabling.
They've been willing participants in this spectacle for years. Greenfield owned up this morning. The others need to, also. The list is long.
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