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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:20 AM Original message |
The media loves to report on overweight people... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
1. Absolutely reliable Stimulus-Response model = $$$$$$$$. Both Responses!!! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Logical. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
11. You nailed it, Deja Q! The Rat Race. What a RACKETT!!! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
2. Don't forget HFCS. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:26 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. EXCELLENT point! |
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. No, it won't. Nor will it come right out and blame the SAD which is the real culprit. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Thanks for the link! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
14. My daughter and I are reading Dr. Jordan Rubin. She is actually doing his stuff and is getting |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Producers and Purveyors of SAD should regard themselves in the same manner as Drug Pushers. |
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Systematic Chaos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You are absolutely correct. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #26 |
47. Huh?! My son is diabetic and an "old" fan of Dream Theater too! |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. I'll also recommend Dr. McDougall's work. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
6. And medications too! |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:31 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. True on both counts!!! |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Illness -- thank you |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
10. Why is it necessary to excuse every fat person... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'm overweight and I'll be perfectly honest that I eat too much. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Shhhhh... |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. There is no cure for obesity |
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Ron Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #16 |
30. But there's management, and that's what has to happen. |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Why do people think discussing underlying issues is making an excuse? |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Ambient environment and relative psychology |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Not an either/or proposition. Everyone, both/all sides in the situation, should accept responsibilit |
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gbate (900 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #10 |
32. I'll admit. I'll also admit that not everyone who is 20-40 lbs overweight is especially unhealthy. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
33. Why is it necessary to think symptoms are problems and not the other way around? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:03 AM Response to Original message |
15. And overweight people love to come up with excuse after excuse |
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soleft (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Again - see above. Why such a knee jerk reaction? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Because these excuses are being thrown out there and used to make obesity an acceptable norm |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
35. Then go after those people. I am looking for underlying societal conditions. Not normalizing. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Then let's boil it down to this |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
36. As for sedentary lifestyle and junk food, and the insurance industry... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. Soleft! Where ya been? |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
19. Inability to lose weight can also be a result of food allergies |
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otohara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #19 |
38. I Had Candida - I Was On The Can't Eat It Diet |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. VERY true! |
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meow2u3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
21. Don't forget orthopedic issues and medicines |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
23. The inherent superficiality of 'careerism' results in very unhappy/unhealthy people... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #23 |
25. DIng! Ding! Ding! "God's People" are FUCKING LOST!!!!!! nt |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
27. Who decides what people's "ideal" weight should be, and by what criteria? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. excellent point |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
28. And they have to show pictures of overweight people |
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Startup (30 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. But they never show the faces... That has always cracked me up. |
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SleeplessInAlabama (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
31. Easier target than Congress. n/t |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
37. It's society's fault, not fat people's. Everyone is a victim. Personal responsibility sucks. |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. It's pissing me off that obese people, who are admittedly |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
42. Why on earth assume there ARE "issues"? |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. And what about all the fat- and carb-laden crap on the dollar menus? |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
45. I myself blame the Media |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. I do understand that undrlying psychological problems do effect weight |
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