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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:14 PM Original message |
Poll question: Should people who served their jail sentences be allowed to get on with their lives afterward? |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's up to the people with whom they want to work. |
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rvablue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
2. I think you mean "allowed" not "aloud." n/t |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Got it! |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
3. I think they should do so quietly, not aloud. - n/t |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. I think that people mostly object to him being handed a high profile job |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
6. i will say aloud that they should DEFINITELY be 'allowed' to resume their lives. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
7. I'm with you kid. |
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nosmokes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. So child molesters should be allowed to be teachers. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. I'm with you, nosmokes... and "reprehensible," Devilgrrl? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. You don't have to show me that - but nice try.... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. How, pray tell does not believing he has a right to play for the NFL |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. So what your saying is Michael Vick has no remorse for his actions and is therefore redeemable? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. NO... but apparently you can not read and comprehend |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #48 |
55. You are so grasping at straws... get off of your sanctimonious high horse. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
66. Ahh.. projection.....LOL |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Redemption, my ass. It is all about your own perceived "entitlement" to be entertained. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Exactly ... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Contrary to what you people think, a gross picture is not an instant argument winner. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. No, the denial factor among those determined to be entertained |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
56. (facepalm) |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:06 AM Response to Reply #56 |
80. LOL. White people ...... (insert one liner) |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Michael Vick molested children? |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Why not pay him to be a gladiator against the lions then, DG |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. Too bad he didn't abuse women - he'd be back on the field in no time. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. I certainly don't justify that EITHER... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #47 |
54. My point is that there's a possibily that he's remorseful but apparently that doesn't seem matter. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:04 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. And you don't seem to get that one has to earn trust & redemption |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:21 AM Response to Reply #65 |
71. You are so tedious..... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. That's why I asked if there should be a LAW forbidding Vick's return. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. NFL owners run the league... no one is proposing a "law" |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:05 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. But then the analogy to child molester restriction LAWS dies. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Pedophile laws do not specifically prevent schools from hiring... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Those LAWS make it impossible for pedophiles to work in school. If you're not talking about LAWS... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I have repeatedly replied that no one is suggesting a law... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Then there's no analogy to child molestation, which was the topic of the branch... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Ok... Circular reasoning does not interest me... |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
63. Child molesters shouldn't be allowed to be primary teachers because of the proxemity to kids |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
64. Just as pedophiles should not be allowed around children... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
72. If it isn't safe to allow them around children, they shouldn't be let out of custody |
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Ohio Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Other - Resume their lives? Yes. Have restrictions? Also yes. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
29. I'll agree with that but he should be allowed to resume his |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
86. +1 |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
30. Agreed. (nt) |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. It depends on their crime and what they want to do with the |
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ejpoeta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. i can't imagine any team hiring him. that would be a bad pr move for them, that's for sure. |
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Morning Dew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
13. I voted yes. I also think that some ex-cons need some restrictions. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
15. I think there's a relevant difference... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #15 |
32. There is still no rehab to speak of. n/t |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
17. No |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #17 |
59. get some help dude |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #59 |
82. There's always one |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:53 AM Response to Reply #17 |
60. umm doesnt this post make you a wanna be killer? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 09:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. Dave Zirin (best sports/society person currently alive) had a good article.... |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Vick has support for his second chance for exploitative reasons |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I agree with that, too. But I'm sure Vick realizes that he is one |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. It is mutually exploitative..... Great if you are Vick... |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #34 |
84. Absolutely and I've said as much up thread and on other |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. Thank you, Mr. Karl Marx. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. LOL |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #37 |
58. Thank you. Mr. Zeppo Marx. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:51 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. +1 |
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Uzybone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. Great post |
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KDFW (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
25. Well, it depends. |
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wickerwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:02 PM Response to Original message |
26. Depends on the crime. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. I'm an ex-con... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
75. It's unbelievable, isn't it? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Well, it's interesting. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #38 |
81. No... the poll is ridiculous because it conflates second chances |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
41. Black and white world anyone? |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:02 PM Response to Original message |
45. I have a hard time feeling sorry for a celebrity millionaire |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:18 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. It's not a matter of feeling sorry for Vick. It's a matter of whether or not one believes... |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. As far as I know, there is no law prohibiting Vick from playing football again |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:33 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Ah. So you would then support blacklisting union members. |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. How do you get that from my post? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:54 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Nice framing, Hannity. |
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pecwae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #61 |
74. And it was. nt |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-28-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
53. Should he be legally denied chances? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
62. Yes. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
67. He should not be allowed to own pets of any kind. Other than that |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
68. PETA euthanizes out the wa-zoo. Who are they to tell Vick to get his head checked? |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 06:48 AM Response to Original message |
69. Sure, with exceptions... |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:34 AM Response to Original message |
73. Vick will be dogged (pun intended) for the rest of his life |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
76. Yes |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:01 AM Response to Original message |
78. Michael Vick hasn't yet *tried* to live down what he did. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
83. Yes, unless I really don't like them or their particular crime |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-29-09 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
85. No restrictions whatsoever, or else keep them in prison. I recognize no in-between. (nt) |
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