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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:07 PM Original message |
CIA Domestic Operations Division: DU thread #3 |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. One of the things |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. The CIA is not engaged in Military Intelligence |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 10:32 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I was MI 65 to 69. I was ASA. We didn't answer to the CIA. We answered |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Alfredo, does this sound like MI to you? |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. yes. Even what is known in that thread could be a cover. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I'm retired Navy. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. My sister is still freaking out from the FBI vetting in 65. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. alfredo, some MI personnel were "loaned" to the CIA on various pretexts, they worked here at home... |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
53. Does Division 5 of the FBI ring any bells? I've only come across limited references to it. n/t |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I'll agree and disagree...... |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 10:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. This shrouding of their careers in the private sector also was the MO for "economic hit men".... |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 02:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
23. "US Still Paying Blackwater Millions" by Jeremy Scahill (8-7-09 Truthout.org) |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Thanks for posting |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. The self-proclaimed "masters of the mind fuck" that belong to the American Psychological Association |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. H2O Man, |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Off the top |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Thanks. |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Wasn't Poppy Bush involved in this? |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Right. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-08-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Shades of Clint Murchison! Where's today's Henry B. Gonzalez???... |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #1 |
55. George De Morenschiltd (sp?) is a good example of this. n/t |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-05-09 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
2. Great link here... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 10:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Deleted message |
bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #2 |
18. University of Wisconsin-Madison alumnus Wallace J. Hilliard, his associates and family merit a post |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-17-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. Thanks to the continuing efforts of Daniel Hopsicker many of Wally Hilliard's domestic enterprises |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-06-09 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
17. There's a lot to consider, so far. Thanks to all participants, so far. I'll be back tomorrow n/t |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
19. "Former Top Navy Psychologist Involved in Pre-9/11 Prisoner Abuse Case" by Jeffrey Kaye 8-5-09 |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-07-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Vanity Fair Exposes How Two Psychologists Shaped the CIA's Torture Methods (unhappycamper thread |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. "Criminal Investigation into CIA Treatment of Detainees Expected" by Greg Miller & Josh Meyer |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. The DOD was created by Johnson to provide after-the-fact cover for the JFK assassination. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Domestic Operations Division was officially launched in February 1963-headed by Tracy Barnes |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I may be confusing two acronyms, but I recollect Johnson creating DOD. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-10-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. The acronym's are confusing Department of Defense, Domestic Operations Division, Directorate of Oper |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-12-09 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
31. Connecting the CIA's many domestic dots: Erik Prince, Alvin Krongard and J. Coffer Black |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
32. "Good CIA, bad CIA and the root cause of the 'intelligence failure'" (started 5-31-2004) |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. This is interesting... |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. That's still a stinking kettle of fish-and now Senator Magic Bullet theory is a Dem... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. How many people (including many former mafia) were conveniently executed in the 70s... |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. Johnny Roselli for one! n/t |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
36. "Porter Goss, CIA Director 2004-2006, claims ignorance of tapes' destruction. Right -oh." (seafan |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
37. "Memorandum For The Record January 31, 1975 Subject: Project ARTICHOKE" (pdf) |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
38. What about NSA's Domestic Role? |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Not to mention the NRO...yep-or Buzzy Krongard's 'private" Iridium satellites, etc. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. Buzzy's Brother Big at Blackwater |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-15-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. No such thing as "overseas" communications. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-18-09 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
43. The worst domestic operations comes from Agency connected people that are "family" oriented |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
44. Just a reminder-AG Holder must reach a decision about appointing a special prosecutor (re CIA |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
45. While we're discussing domestic operations let's not forget that the FBI didn't have the leadership |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. Rockefeller Commission Report Chapter 15: Domestic Activites of the Directorate of Operations |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
47. Thanks Bob..! K&R |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Hi KoKo! |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
49. I'm interested in hearing what others have to say about these issues-kick |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
50. No one is above the law, it's a crime to conceal crimes behind national security classification-kick |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. The relationship between the CIA and the corporate media is particularly nasty for |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It literally went into psychological operations during BUSH/CHENEY-and that's also illegal in the US |
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ControlledDemolition (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:04 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. Bob Woodward, among many others, need a closer look in this regard! n/t |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
57. Can Leon Panetta begin real reforms or has the compartmentation and "privatization" of intelligence |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I think that the DOJ was corrupted waaayyy before the Bush years. They just didn't give |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
59. In 1978 William J. Casey founded the Manhattan Institutue for Policy Research-he became Reagan's CIA |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
60. Add to this thread DU, you know you'll feel better-kick |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. Last kick for the day, a day that has been full of news about the CIA and it's private assets-add to |
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