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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:00 AM
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McCain says the Democrats are being reckless on Iraq
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/04/11/politics/p060634D41.DTL&type=politics

Republican presidential contender John McCain said Wednesday the four-year war in Iraq is "necessary and just" and accused anti-war Democrats of being reckless.

McCain, struggling to reinvigorate his troubled presidential campaign, also criticized President Bush for initially going to war without a plan to succeed. But the decorated war hero staunchly backed the commander in chief's recent troop increase and said Bush is right to veto legislation that places conditions on the war

"In Iraq, only our enemies were cheering" when House Democrats enthusiastically passed legislation setting a timetable for a troop withdrawal, the Arizona Republican said in prepared remarks of a speech meant to reinvigorate his troubled presidential campaign. snip

The latest Associated Press-Ipsos poll showed that a majority of Americans say going to war in Iraq was a mistake and half call it a hopeless cause. But among Republicans, roughly three in four say the United States made the right decision in going to war and call the cause worthy.




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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:07 AM
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1. and John McCain
is a fool who is out of step with the people of the country he wants to lead as president....McCain has become irrelevant
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:15 AM
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2. Republican arrogance prevents admission of ANY mistakes.
It would not matter how bad thing get in Iraq or that there were no WMDs and no connection to 9/11. The absolute arrogance of those assholes would never allow admission of a mistake.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:23 AM
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3. Ya, right
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 09:24 AM by vpilot
on there McCain, it's them Dem's that keep sending the troops into battle without adequate armor, proper training and on multiple deployments, have lowered the standards to meet recruitment goals and have justified regime change, invasion and occupation of Iraq with lies.:sarcasm: :sarcasm: McCain needs a big cup of STFU!!!
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:25 AM
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4. He lost all credibility his last trip to Iraq
Remember how safe it was to go out shopping John?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:26 AM
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5. "Necessary and just?"
McCain is a certified kook.
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:31 AM
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6. Ain't gonna fly, John. The American people have spoken, but you won't listen.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:32 AM
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7. What's reckless is getting into a war without a plan and when you're completely unprepared
and having a bunch of people get killed for no real reason.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:38 AM
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9. A-men!
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:36 AM
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8. Observations/Questions
1.)Does McCain KNOW that "our enemies were cheering" because of the timetables and if so, HOW does he know this and more importantly, WHY should it matter what our enemies think? Bush, Cheney, McCain, et. al seem obsessed with how "our enemies" view us and our actions. Why is this? They are not suggesting that we formulate our policies around what (we think) "our enemies" want or don't want, are they? :shrug:
2.)I don't know what other people think but I personally think that McCain, Graham, and Pence were themselves VERY reckless by publicizing a (heavily armed and escorted) trip to a local marketplace supposedly to demonstrate how "safe" Baghdad is becoming(?) as a result of Bush's "surge" policy. By publicizing the trip in the manner in which they did it not only did they look stupid (which doesn't really bother me) but they may well have helped provoke, albeit unintentionally, the devastating attack on the same marketplace the following day. Also, Pence's comments ("misstatements") suggest that he has become VERY out of touch with his home state if he thinks that the Baghdad marketplace he visited is in any way comparable to one here in Indiana. I've never heard of anybody here in Indiana needing bulletproof vests and a full military escort to protect them while trying to get to and from a marketplace. If this is happening then it is very well covered up.
:wtf:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:56 AM
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13. The one realm that they allow any other side to influence discussion
Nowhere else do they not frame the debate and decide what is to be the topic and how (the black/white alternatives) it will be resolved.

Interesting that they would let the enemy in the war on terror have the upper hand like this.

In "The One Percent Doctrine" Suskind points out how shocked the intelligence community and the FBI were to hear the "Fight them there so we don't fight them here" because to any slightly informed ear that was admitting that they knew that they couldn't defend the whole country.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:41 AM
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10. Hey john go back to your north Vietnam cage
I hear they've upgraded it with new pungee sticks with a fresh batch of bacteria laden poison
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samq79 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:51 AM
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11. Yeah...because the Democrats endangered 100 troops
just to walk in an Iraqi market for a photo op...And the troops will be in assloads of danger when they're home with their families, away from mortar attacks, suicide bombs and IEDs!
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:54 AM
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12. He still hasn't learned the first rule of holes.
:eyes:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 09:57 AM
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14. Did he have his "escort" behind him when he said it?
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:06 AM
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15. No, what is "reckless" is endangering hundreds of lives for a photo op
Edited on Wed Apr-11-07 10:06 AM by RubyDuby in GA
What an asshole!
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-11-07 10:09 AM
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16. He needs mental health institutionalization for the rest of his life.
He has lost his mind.
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