BLACKWATER: Armed Christian Supremacy, Militia Style

[and-justice-for-all]

If you dont know who BLACKWATER is; familiarize yourself with Fridays episode of DEMOCRACYNOW.org

After you listen to Jeremey Scahill explain this christian supremacy militias agenda, you better contact your representitives and tell them FUCK NO! to corperate civilian war machines. BLACKWATER looks to me to be simply a US version Al Quida, but instead of Islam extremist its christian Supremist lead by Eric Prince....

You should be concerned...very concerned.

[Unperson]

1. Cofer Black is the CEO

and the fascist Virginia Beach police Dept. trains at their facilities.

[Pachamama]

15. I thought the CEO was founder Erik Prince? In any event, these people are very scary and very

dangerous....and our taxpayer dollars are funding these people and their agendas...

[ftr23532]

39. Here's another scary Blackwater figure

Former Inspector General of the DoD from 2002-2005 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_E._Schmitz">Joseph E. Schmitz. He became Blackwater's CFO after leaving that position. There's lots more http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=364&topic_id=2894588#2900312">interesting stuff on the guy. Enjoy!

[Unperson]

41. My mistake, J.Cofer Black is Blackwater USA's Vice Chairman.

[az chela]

2. Well this is scary,tell us more!!!! Are they connected to

move america forward ,the group that melanie morgan is the ceo of??
Those people are insane.

[and-justice-for-all]

3. Goto DEMOCRACYNOW.org

and watch fridays espisode...

[seemslikeadream]

4. Our Mercenaries in Iraq: Blackwater Inc and Bush's Undeclared Surge

:hi:

http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/01/26/1559232

Our Mercenaries in Iraq: Blackwater Inc and Bush's Undeclared Surge

Listen to Segment

On Tuesday, five employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA were killed in a violent Baghdad neighborhood. Hours later, President Bush used his State of the Union address to call on what some are calling an undeclared surge of private mercenaries in Iraq. We speak with Jeremy Scahill, author of the forthcoming “Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army.”
The private security firm Blackwater USA is back in the news again. On Tuesday, hours before President Bush’s State of the Union address, one of the company’s helicopters was brought down in a violent Baghdad neighborhood. Five Blackwater troops - all Americans - were killed. Reports say the men’s bodies show signs of execution-style deaths with bullet wounds to the back off the head.
Blackwater provided no identities or details of those killed. They did release a statement saying the deaths “are a reminder of the extraordinary circumstances under which our professionals voluntarily serve to bring freedom and democracy to the Iraqi people.”

President Bush made no mention of the incident during his State of the Union. But he did address the very issue that has brought dozens of private security companies like Blackwater to Iraq in the first place: the need for more troops.


President Bush.
Is the president looking to further outsource war? My next guest writes that Blackwater is a reminder of just how privatized the Iraq war has become. Jeremy Scahill is a Puffin Foundation Writing Fellow at The Nation Institute and is author of the forthcoming book, “Blackwater: The Rise of the World’s Most Powerful Mercenary Army.” He has an OpEd in yesterday’s Los Angeles Times titled “Our mercenaries in Iraq.” He joins me in the firehouse studio.

[seemslikeadream]

5. they represent the life's work of Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.

[illinoisprogressive]

6. they are religious malitia for hire. They are disgusting little slimes

[Bozita]

7. Blackwater's owner is Betsy DeVos' brother -- the distant edge of the right wing

Live hotlinks at the source:
http://www.mediamouse.org/features/051904betsy.php


Betsy DeVos' Connection to War Profiteering in Iraq

May 19, 2004

Betsy DeVos, current chair of the Michigan Republican Party, has a little known connection to war profiteering and private security forces in Iraq. Betsy DeVos' younger brother, Erik D. Prince, is the founder of Blackwater USA, a private security firm currently working in Iraq.

Blackwater USA received some press attention back in late March when four employees of the company were killed and dragged through the streets of Fallujah. However, DeVos' connections to the company were never reported in West Michigan, which is not particularly surprising given the DeVos family's status as major supporters of Republican causes and the local media's continued reverence of the DeVos family. The Holland Sentinel printed an article on April 2, 2004 reporting that Blackwater was founded by Erik Prince back in 1996, but did not disclose the Betsy DeVos connection. This connection was first published in an article ("Founder of Blackwater Part of Wealthy Family") in the Winston-Salem Journal earlier this month.

Blackwater is typical of the new "corporate military"--an army of private contractors who are being used in increasing numbers--with an estimated 15,000 private contractors doing "security" work in Iraq. Blackwater currently has "millions of dollars in contracts" to provide security in Iraq, including a 21 million dollar contract to provide security for the Coalition Provisional Authority and L. Paul Bremer.

While questions about legal accountability of privately contracted mercenaries were raised back in late April, the question has taken on new significance with the abuse at the Abu Ghraib prison, some of which is reported to have been committed by privately contracted individuals. In countries such as Colombia, where private contractors are being used to fight guerilla forces, contractors have been used to circumvent the Congressionally imposed limits on the US military's actions. In addition, Blackwater has been recruiting soldiers from repressive governments--including former Chilean commandos trained under Pinochet.

Related Articles:

* CounterPunch: Contractors and Mercenaries--The Rising Corporate Military Monster
* AlterNet: Mercenaries 'R' Us
* New York Times: Blackwater Mercenaries Take Risks for Right Price
* Salon.com: The Private Contractor - GOP Gravy Train

[LouisianaLiberal]

8. Another Scahill article about Blackwater in New Orleans:

New Orleans - Heavily armed paramilitary mercenaries from the Blackwater private security firm, infamous for their work in Iraq, are openly patrolling the streets of New Orleans. Some of the mercenaries say they have been "deputized" by the Louisiana governor; indeed some are wearing gold Louisiana state law enforcement badges on their chests and Blackwater photo identification cards on their arms. They say they are on contract with the Department of Homeland Security and have been given the authority to use lethal force. Several mercenaries we spoke with said they had served in Iraq on the personal security details of the former head of the US occupation, L. Paul Bremer and the former US ambassador to Iraq, John Negroponte.

"This is a totally new thing to have guys like us working CONUS (Continental United States)," a heavily armed Blackwater mercenary told us as we stood on Bourbon Street in the French Quarter. "We're much better equipped to deal with the situation in Iraq."

Blackwater mercenaries are some of the most feared professional killers in the world and they are accustomed to operating without worry of legal consequences. Their presence on the streets of New Orleans should be a cause for serious concern for the remaining residents of the city and raises alarming questions about why the government would allow men trained to kill with impunity in places like Iraq and Afghanistan to operate here. Some of the men now patrolling the streets of New Orleans returned from Iraq as recently as 2 weeks ago.

What is most disturbing is the claim of several Blackwater mercenaries we spoke with that they are here under contract from the federal and Louisiana state governments

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/091005A.shtml

(This is one way of getting around posse comitatus - crossing the Rubicon?)

[originalpckelly]

31. Indeed, we are seeing the method of their take over...

this is the American SA.

[bobthedrummer]

9. It's not just the mercenaries-this is in the chain of command of the BFEE.

"Ten Things I Learned From The Pentagon's Prayer Team"
by Jeff Sharlet
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/46262/

"America's Holy Warriors"
by Chris Hedges
http://www.commondreams.org/cgi-bin/print.cgi?file=/views06/0103-59.htm

The National Prayer Breakfast is sponsored by The Fellowship Foundation a group that was started in the 1930's by US RW NAZI sympathizers and supporters.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/scoops/christian_mafia.php

[seemslikeadream]

10. The ideological architecture of a Christian fascism is being cemented in place

The movement awaits a crisis. At that moment they will reveal themselves for what they truly are -- the American heirs to fascism

[originalpckelly]

33. This is just like Mussolini's rise, it's like the business plot...

these people have taken vets and are now using them for a private military. This is how it happened in Germany and Italy, we cannot let it happen here.

As a security measure, I suggest that someone on the left start a private mercenary company as well to counteract these fundies. There are a lot of vets out there who despise Republicans, and we need to find them and then hire them.

This knowledge is like getting hit in the stomach, because it really looks like they're planning something right out of Nazi Germany.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

11. Kick and recommend

[Gwerlain]

12. Ever hear of the SA?

Also known as the Sturmabteilung, or the Brown Shirts?

How much of what's-his-name's speech on the state of the onion, or whatever he was blithering about, did you listen to?

[originalpckelly]

30. Indeed, this is a threat to the republic.

I wonder if any of these geniuses (specifically Democrats who support Blackwater) have thought about what happens if these folks turn against the government?

[Gwerlain]

36. Ever read...

John Shirley's A Song Called Youth trilogy- "Eclipse," "Eclipse Penumbra," and "Eclipse Corona?" It was recently updated and republished by the Babbage Press. Both the older and newer editions are uncomfortably prophetic if one substitutes the Middle East for Europe, and terrorism for the USSR.

[PoiBoy]

13. They also funded Focus on the Family...

..insane James Dobson's little project... mentioned in the Democracy Now broadcast...

[GreenZoneLT]

14. Huh. Sounds like their corporate politics are scary

All they seem to do in Iraq is work as bodyguards for companies and Iraqi officials who need to travel. I'm sure they occasionally kill people by overzealously guarding convoys, but it's not like they're an "army." They are a bunch of dicks, but what rent-a-cops aren't?

Check out the Blackwater helicopter crash on liveleak.com. Looks like bird was totally flattened; I guess it's possible those guys were executed afterward, but the (extremely blurry) shots of the two dead guys don't show any obvious wounds.

[pecwae]

44. During my TOD at 1st SOCOM

way back in the 80's groups like BW recruited heavily from those SF ETS. True, they're dicks, but most of them are very well trained dicks. One I know of personally was an officer in in the Belgian army. There just wasn't enough bloodshed for him so he went to Rhodesia as a merc. He finally ended up an NCO with SF (got help with naturalization so he could) and upon ETS again became a merc, but this time with a US firm. He speaks 5 languages, heavy & light weapons, medic, demo, SERE, etc. He's an old fart now, but if he's not still jobbing he's probably helping with training. I can't consider these guys rent-a-cops.

[undergroundpanther]

16. Interesting name, black water..

I hate these assholes. Fascist fucks. I wish Sekhmet would take these pieces of shit out of commission in the bloodbath they fantasize about inflicting on others.


Since darkness is contrasted with light in Genesis 1:4, there is obviously symbolic meaning attached to darkness. Black darkness is used to described the second death, the final judgment of the cosmic evangelist (2 Peter 2:17; Jude 13).

Black darkness is associated with death of a baby (Job 3:3-11). And it is the darkness of skin that is burned (SOS 1:5-6) or diseased (Job 30:30). Thus, black refers to death.

Burned as in microwaved Iraqis? Dead babies? Black water I am not doubting is killing people plenty ..These culties fancy themselves the judgment of the cosmic evangelist. But they are NOT they are deluded.BIG TIME. Which makes them all the more dangerous..

(Remember the bible was originally about visions of the Gnostic, Gnostics which were so threatening to the Roman state ( ancient culture of fascists) they destroyed it, decided which books mattered, and co opted it.) These texts can be interpreted many ways depending on the quality of the inner ethical character of the reader..

Darkness (which obviously has the characteristic color, black) refers to Satan's Cosmic System, cosmos diabolicus, the world.

The world is separated from the light (John 1:5). Rejection of the light, thinking like a Gentile unbeliever, is described as darkness in the understanding (Eph. 4:18).
(It is those without gnosis/wisdom when these old texts say darkness in the understanding or Proinoia.)

The world system is characterized by the love of money (monetary reversionism), which will be judged symbolically by one of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse (the rider on the black horse) (Rev. 6:5).

Money..Black water.. meet black horseman..LOL.

Oh Get this from Baruch about black waters..

53—54. THE MESSIAH APOCALYPSE (complex?)
53. The Vision of the Cloud with black and white Waters
53 1 And when I had said these things I fell asleep there, and I saw a vision, and lo! a cloud was ascending from a very great sea, and I kept gazing upon it) and lo! it was full of waters white and black, and there were many colors in those self-same waters, and as it were the likeness of great lightning was seen at its summit. 2 And I saw the cloud passing swiftly in quick courses, and it covered all the earth. 3 And it came to pass after these things that that cloud began to pour upon the earth the waters that were in it. 4 And I saw that there was not one and the same like­ness in the waters which descended from it. 5 For in the first beginning they were black and many (Or a time, and afterwards I saw that the waters became bright, but they were not many, and after these things again I saw black (waters), and after these things again bright, and again black and again bright. 6 Now this was done twelve times, but the black were always more numerous than the bright. 7 And it came to pass at the end of the cloud, that lo! it rained black waters, and they were darker than had been all those waters that were before, and fire was mingled with them, and where those waters descended, they wrought devastation and destruction. 8 And after these things I saw how that lightning which I had seen on the summit of the cloud, seized hold of it and hurled it to the earth. 9 Now that lightning shone exceedingly, so as to illuminate the whole earth, and it healed those regions where the last waters had descended and wrought devastation. 10 And it took hold of the whole earth, and had dominion over it. 11 And I saw after these things, and lo! twelve rivers were ascending from the sea, and they began to surround that lightning and to become subject to it. 12 And by reason of my fear I awoke.

These Black water fuckers are EVIL, deluded ignorant and money driven and their own bible says they are too. As do the jewish texts. Fundie Christian mercenaries/fascists are spiritually dead, they are satanic posing as christians..
The lightning is a representation of GNOSIS. or Sophia the godess..Awakening. Detecting , separating than Wiping these fascist sociopath thugs off the face of this planet forever by opening our minds to understand how our unquestioned beliefs and conditioning are what hold us in cages to "the powers that be".

And funny there is this from Baruch also.. Wonder why the fundies are getting so "environmentalist" lately? God told them to. Remember freaks like black water LOVE the old testament..And rip off the jewish texts too.

"But now, ye peoples and nations, ye are debtors, because all this time ye have trodden down the earth, and used the creation unrighteously."*smirk*

http://www.pseudepigrapha.com/pseudepigrapha/2Baruch.html

These pseudo zionist fundies are dangerous.

[malaise]

17. Are they receiving any money from the

oilmen?

[undergroundpanther]

18. Erik Prince?

Check this out


But what's more significant is who James Reese is, the man who brought them in. He serves in Mayor Ray Nagin's administration. He also runs a powerful business lobby, and Naomi has talked about him as well. He also was quoted openly in the Wall Street Journal saying he doesn't want black people or poor people to return to New Orleans. These kinds of sentiments are then being backed up by these military and paramilitary forces. Blackwater is also a very interesting case. They got a lucrative $400,000 contract from the federal government to provide security for FEMA reconstruction projects.

The head of Blackwater, the founder, is a man named Eric Prince. He is a mega-billionaire from Michigan. His father was a close friend of Gary Bauer. His father helped to found the Family Research Council. His sister, Betsy, is married to Dick DeVos, who is going to be the gubernatorial candidate of the Republican Party in the state of Michigan. He, Dick DeVos, is the son of Richard DeVos, the founder of Amway, the greatest benefactor in the history of the Republican Party, the man who largely funded the Republican revolution in 1994, this Christian fundamentalist corporation, Amway. So he comes from a powerful Michigan family. He has given hundreds of thousands of dollars to the Republican Party. He started this firm Blackwater Security. He himself is a former navy S.E.A.L. He staffs it with people he describes as patriots, although, it’s interesting, they have been doing recruiting in Chile, hiring men who were trained under Augusto Pinochet's regime. So these forces are now – there are about two hundred of them – in New Orleans right now. One hundred and sixty-four of them are on a no-bid federal contract with FEMA to provide protection for these sites. This is part of a bigger push by these paramilitary firms to gain contracts here in the United States. For instance, Blackwater seized on the fact that four of their employees were killed in Fallujah in March of 2004. Eric Prince viewed this as a profit moment. So, what he did is hired –

AMY GOODMAN: This is that horrible moment –

JEREMY SCAHILL: Where we saw the charred bodies. They were hanged, and it resulted in the massive U.S. onslaught against Fallujah that resulted in tens of thousands of people having to flee the city, scores of people being killed, innocent civilians. Of course, now Fallujah has become an international symbol of resistance against the U.S. occupation in Iraq. Well after these four Blackwater mercenaries were killed in Fallujah and then their bodies mutilated and hung from a bridge, Eric Prince hired the Alexander Group which is a powerful Republican lobby firm tied to House Majority Leader, Tom DeLay, and then hired a former C.I.A. Department of – C.I.A., State department official, named Coffer Black, to help promote their cause in Washington. I

In fact, just as the hurricane was hitting, another high-level person from the Pentagon was hired by the Prince Group, the parent company of Blackwater, Joseph Schmitz. He had just resigned as the Inspector General of the Pentagon. He himself was involved with numerous scandals. So he is then brought on board, and then they get this contract. What's interesting is that when I spoke to the Blackwater mercenaries in New Orleans, they said clearly, we're here on a Department of Homeland Security contract.

That was denied by the Department of Homeland Security.

http://nucnews.net/nucnews/2005nn/0509nn/050923nn.txt

And THIS
http://alternet.org/story/46211/

[fooj]

19. Holy shit. I hope Waxman is investigating this. Kucinich?

[undergroundpanther]

20. I dunno

But let me say this, I fear it will come down to the citizens, WE have to investigate it, if nobody else will.And we have to find a way to get power away from these psychopathic dynastic families of pirates and thugs playing the roles of upstanding businessman,churchman and "patriot".And make sure their kind NEVER are given power,trusted or believed , or given the sort of 'privacy' where these criminals can hobnob, form their "business board meetings", gated communities, old boy clubs, think tanks, coups and cabals. ever again.

[starroute]

21. Bits and pieces on Prince and DeVos connections

Here's some stuff I dug out when I was looking into former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Pete Hoekstra's ties to the DeVos family. (He's the congressman from Holland, MI, which is apparently where they live.)

http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/september26-30.htm

The DeVos family has used a corporate entities such as the Windquest Group, DP Fox Ventures, and Alticor, Inc. to funnel thousands of dollars to conservative GOP politicians and their PACs, including Restoring the American Dream board member Sue Myrick, South Dakota Sen. John Thune, and Louisiana Rep. Bobby Jindal. Erik Prince, through a Virginia entity called Prince Household LLC, as well as the Prince Group, has contributed to Tom DeLay, Peter Hoekstra, George W. Bush, South Carolina Sen. Jim DeMint, and Oklahoma Sen. Tom Coburn.


http://phoenixwoman.blogspot.com/2005_09_01_phoenixwoman_archive.html

Joseph Schmitz, until recently the Inspector General at the Pentagon, left that job "amid accusations that he stonewalled inquiries into senior Bush administration officials suspected of wrongdoing."

He was promptly hired by the Prince Group, parent company of Blackwater USA. Blackwater USA is "a private security company with millions of dollars in contracts in Iraq."

<snip>

But wait, there's more about Mr. Schmitz.

Jane Hamsher of firedoglake reminds us that Joseph Schmitz is the son of California Republican John Schmitz, who ran on "the family values" platform and considered Ronald Reagan a pinko. The thing is, Joseph was John's son by a woman other than John's wife. Joseph had a half-sister (John's "real" family) who grew up to be Mary Kay LeTourneau.

[eppur_se_muova]

22. Listened to the DN segment ... Blackwater Inc. = al-Qrista. nt

[cosmicdot]

23. wondering if there are any dotted lines to the CNP

to/from Blackwater (possibly named after the black-colored waters of the Dismal Swamp)?

... Council for National Policy. Howard F. Ahmanson, Jr., who helped fund the Diebold (which begat ES&S) voting machines is one of the Christian Reconstructionists/Dominionists who is involved with the CNP, as is/was Jack Abramoff/Jerry Falwell/Oliver North and others. Is the CNP the brain trust/central committee from which much is orchestrated (think tanks, Blackwater, etc.)? Should an IRS tax-exempt, donation-deductible 'charitable' 501c3 organization be allowed such secrecy? CNP seems like a confluence where big corporate money meets up with religious/political extremism.

It's been reported that Erik Prince's father, Edgar, was a member and office holder of CNP.

A business gets a start
http://www.newsobserver.com/512/story/172333.html (Blackwater article)


Edgar Prince - CNP Vice-President 1988, Executive Committee 1994, member 1984; founded Prince Corporation, a major supplier to the automotive industry; former secretary of the board, Gospel Films, Gospel Film's Board Chairman was Richard M. DeVos;

During that same period, both the late Edgar Prince and Jay Van Andel, the co-founder of Amway with Richard Devos, were on the bank's board of directors.

The men most responsible for engineering the rendezvous between Reagan and the religious right were a cabal of professional fund-raisers and PR flacks for ultra-right causes: Richard Viguerie, Terry Dolan, Howard Phillips, and Ed McAteer. Between them they had founded, chaired, or advised such lobbying groups as Conservative Caucus, Religious Roundtable, National Conservative Political Action Committee, Committee for the Survival of a Free Congress, Christian Voice, Young Americans for Freedom, and the now infamous Moral Majority. It was these men who actually created the Moral Majority, not Falwell, who was recruited by them to front the organization.

The very term “Moral Majority” was coined by either Weyrich or Phillips (it’s disputed) in 1979 when they met with Falwell through McAteer, then director of the Christian Freedom Foundation, which was financed by Pew (Sunoco) and DeVos (Amway) money. Weyrich, P.A.C. man and cofounder of many of the above groups as well as the Coors and Scaiffe financed Heritage Foundation, and Phillips,

"Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Ralph Reed, Paul Weyrich, Donald Wildmon, Oliver North, and Howard Phillips ... former Attorney General Ed Meese ... Howard Ahmanson ... Richard DeVos of Amway, Pierre S. DuPont IV, and several members of the Coors clan," Miller writes, all are connected in varying degrees to the Christer Recon movement.

http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.pe-q.htm#prince
http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.htm
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Council_for_National_Policy
http://www.watch.pair.com/cnp.html

Christian Reconstructionists - Dominionists
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Reconstructionism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominionism


"We are no longer working to preserve the status quo. We are radicals, working to overturn the present power structure in this country." Paul Weyrich
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/22/155525/061


is 'we' the CNP??

[bobthedrummer]

25. Yep. Good job my friend. They practice what they preach as mind controlled cults.

:thumbsup:

RW Pharisees from the darkside.

The Rise of The Religious Right in The Republican Party
http://4religious-right.info/

[Poll_Blind]

24. K&R, very concerning stuff. n/t

PB

[catchnrelease]

26. Heard this on my way to work

It was really chilling. Especially how many contacts they have in high places, and how much money available, which gives them way too much power.

[originalpckelly]

28. Teddy Roosevelt was concerned about the rise of monopolies...

and how private business men would be able to take over America, well, here we are with companies which literally hold in their hands the life or death of people.

Old Ike talked about the military industrial complex, here we are.

[originalpckelly]

27. Looks like "The Enterprise" from the Iran-Contra scandal is still alive and well.

That's where this is headed.

[ftr23532]

37. There are some fascinating connections between the folks that ran the Enterprise and the bin Ladens

Willard Zucker, the Geneva-based tax lawyer that worked with Richard Secord and Albert Hakim on http://www.fas.org/irp/offdocs/walsh/chap_08.htm">the Enterprise was involved in some interesting transactions in the summer of 2001. There's more on that http://fortherecordessays.blogspot.com/2006/11/part-11-opaque-world-of-clearstream_11.html">here. Skip down to the "Trying to make sense of the SICO/Osama/Clearstream connections" section for a general summary of the strangeness. Enjoy! :-)

[me b zola]

29. k&r

[NNN0LHI]

32. I was delighted to hear Senator Clinton suggest cutting off the funds to these mercs the other day

That is a winning issue with me. These mercs are a danger to all of us.

Don

[BuyingThyme]

49. Yes, that's the smartest thing she's ever proposed.

All "contractors" should be cut off immediately.

[and-justice-for-all]

34. Kick..nt

[Blue_Tires]

35. 24th rec

i've spoken about these pieces of shit numerous times...not to mention the fact that they are right in my backyard

[paparush]

38. Ugh...Yet another black eye for North Carolina...

Jesse Helmes, Liddy Dole, Charles Taylor (we did get rid of his sorry ass!!)

Enough is enough!

[Edweird]

40. Starve the beast

These dirtbags only exist because it is profitable to do so. It is only profitable because of the war criminals in washington. Starve the beast and it's parasites die as well.

[and-justice-for-all]

42. Kick

[951-Riverside]

43. I disagree

They are White Christian Supremacy thugs and from the videos I've watched they don't seem very Christian.

[donheld]

45. We/the repuglic party distracted up with Whitewater

so they could build Blackwater. Anyone know how Blackwater is funded?

[bobthedrummer]

46. kick

[sabra]

47. check this out: it looks like the new Iraq CIA chief is connected to Cofer

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=72127&mesg_id=72127

[bobthedrummer]

48. kick

[The Stranger]

50. Christofascist Terrorism?

Noooooo