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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:44 AM Original message |
'Racist' Baby Doll Pulled From Stores |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:48 AM Response to Original message |
1. You have to be kidding me. Who thought that was a good idea????? |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. ClusterFUX News probably had an advertising contract |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. There's no way the obvious went unnoticed in conception/production |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #2 |
21. I think the spectacular nature of this faceplant... |
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bighart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. you'd think a 12 year old Chineese girl working the prodcution line |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. Remember the incident with the racist sofa a few years ago? |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
87. A friend of mine bought some Santa Claus music boxes and they played "Here Comes Peter Cottontail". |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
3. OMG. That is outrageous. How many people must this have "accidentally" slipped by |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
4. Well, the doll itself is cute. But the monkey thing is sick. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I agree with you |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. The only thing I'm sad about is that Golden Books stopped printing "Little Black Sambo" |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #12 |
25. A bit about Sambo and the "picaninny" drawings: |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yeah, that was basically the problem. |
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road2000 (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
124. But it's not just the art. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
45. I wonder if any poor white Appalachians feel the same about L'il Abner. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:17 PM Response to Reply #45 |
63. I don't understand--whenever we are talking about an obvious racial |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Did you follow the damned subthread? I POSTED MY RESPONSE WAS RE:SAMBO. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. But your response was to my comments on Sambo (#25). Please, you don't have |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #79 |
117. they are not comparable and I agree with you... |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #63 |
107. I think people refer to things like that to try and make a connection to something they understand |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. Yes, a point of reference. Agreed. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
116. sorry no comparision....they can change clothes.... |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 04:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
125. How about Snuffy Smiff? |
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msanthrope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
73. Sam and the Tigers is a great book, my daughter loves it. n/t |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:44 PM Original message |
As I recall, the original story was written by an Englishwoman, |
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jdlh8894 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
37. Wonder what would happen - |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Threads like this always bring them out of the woodwork... |
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jdlh8894 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Did you read post #29 ? |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
106. I imagine that the monkey hat was made for a white doll |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
5. i call my little girl 'monkey' all the time |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I guess you are the ignorant type of "white folks" because anyone familiar with US History |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. ok...you missed the point... |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:09 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Right, and this slipped by how many eyes before landing on Costco's shelf? |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I would not think it would be racist on a white doll... |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
50. keep in mind, when they were landing on costco's shelf |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
119. so what were the other animals associated with the dolls in all? |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. You are being racist toward your family. nt |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. right... n/t |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. I'm just giving you a hard time. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. it's all good...i'm with ya! |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
60. I call my daughter "lil' monkey" as well. |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
74. It looks like there were white "lil monkeys" as well... |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
120. It doesn't matter, I mean honestly, look at all the bs that has come out with |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. No, the intent is NOT clear. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
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nolabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Well, right at the moment, you are. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. You need to study up on the history of African Americans in this country and the use of |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. He knows. He gets it. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Then he is truly a fuckhead. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Obviously. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. You lack a knowledge of history |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Who's overreacting here? |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Let me guess - you're white, no? |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. You are joking right? |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. No doubt, they were marketing it to people like you. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
62. LOL... you're racist. (nt) |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
121. I honestly can't believe that your calling this overreaction? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
14. This should be fun |
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surrealAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
23. I wonder if this would have happened if ... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. That was my first thought. Back in China, |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. Assuming it wasn't intentional. |
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rapturedbyrobots (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:40 AM Response to Reply #23 |
42. not surprised |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. interesting response. |
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Wetzelbill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
28. wow, just wow. nt |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
31. potentially? |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
33. I can't believe someone thought THAT was a good marketing idea. |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
35. Remember the Kung Fool halloween mask quite a few years back.... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. No words... |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
40. CostCo pulled it off their shelves ... Sam's Club will gleefully sell the discounted overstock. |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
43. If the bandana was on the monkey then it'd be fine. But on the girl?!!!! |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
46. Looks like all the dolls came in a version for each animal |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. I give you three more posts then..... |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. Are you the site owner? |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I have pretty good idea of what your |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. based on what? |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. dupe. |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. yep |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #71 |
77. Thank you |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. A Panda is not the same as a Monkey. |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. A monkey is a generic animal used in decoration of childrens items.. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. There is no rule that you have to agree with anyone |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:21 PM Response to Reply #55 |
65. Welcome to DU, Mystayya. |
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Mystayya (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #65 |
123. Thank you Mrs. Overall ! |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #55 |
69. I simply don't agree that it is racism |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:55 PM Response to Reply #69 |
72. Based on the details you provided you are correct |
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ihelpyou (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
84. Or "boy" - I wonder if that causes problems, too? |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. yes and a white hood |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. Racism is never "intended" as racism. Ask any racist. They'll tell you. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Obviously this was a cultural snafu. It seems like a lot of people are so invested in their outrage |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #56 |
66. I know what you mean. Imagine in this day and age people still are upset about racism-- |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #66 |
81. You have a rather sloppy definition of racism. |
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Mrs. Overall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #81 |
91. Hint--I was being sarcastic to your initial post. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #91 |
101. Sorry for the misunderstanding. It can be very difficult to tell, round here. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:10 PM Response to Reply #46 |
58. Edit: dupe. nt |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #46 |
64. I think several people have already asked if the white dolls came with the 'monkey' hat. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
53. Tone and context. Most parents, Grand parents, uncles, aunts, etc... |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
54. How Ward Cosell found this out years ago |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
75. Oh No, this is all a mistake |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
78. Wonder if there was a white counterpoint to this doll? |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. Yes, there were. And there were also different animals. An Asian doll with a Panda, for instance |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Appears so. See post 46. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
83. It's always funny when white folks use the "it's just a mistake" defense of bigotry. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. yeah...all those white people on the assembly line in China... |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Bloo just usually sprays then moves on. Doubt he will be back. nt |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. Assembly line workers didn't make the decision. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. oh, you're right...the chinese manufacturer COULDN'T have messed up... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Um... what about the buyer? The shelf-stockers? |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. um...are you familiar with the way big box stores do business? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Well racist is in quotes in the OP... |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. there is a sad lack of sanity here... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I think it's just the same thing... overreacting. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. well, with a beer or two i could... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Indeed it should have... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
108. I bet you that doesn't happen. I bet people say far less about racism |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #108 |
109. let's just call racism/bigotry when it IS... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. The denial of racism is as old as white racism. |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #112 |
118. well, i can see you think this is racism... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. I posted what I think down thread. But your alacrity to assume what I think |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #122 |
128. if I misread your intention then I am sorry... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. It's always funny when a small contingent of DU'ers need to prove how uber-liberal and UNracist |
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titoresque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. has the panda |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
93. I think we established last year in a discussion of the term |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. holy shite...sanity... n/t |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
104. Monkeys have Caucasian skin! Sad day for racists. Wake up Amerikkka! |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
111. Well, I don't think it was done on purpose, but someone wasn't paying |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. It looks like an outsourcing snafu but I bet some warehouse manager |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
113. Never should have made it to the shelves in the first place....wow, just wow... |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
115. Hello???? |
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Butch350 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
126. Seems Obama is changing things?? |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-13-09 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
129. OMFG: The degree of paternalistic protectionism displayed... |
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rapturedbyrobots (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-14-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. right on. |
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