Freepers, Birthers, Morons of all stripe, You didn't get mad...

[walldude]

You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.

You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate energy policy.

You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.

You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.

You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.

You didn't get mad when we spent over 600 billion(and counting) on said illegal war.

You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars just disappeared in Iraq.

You didn't get mad when you saw the Abu Grahib photos.

You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.

You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.

You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.

You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.

You didn't get mad when we let a major US city drown.

You didn't get mad when the deficit hit the trillion dollar mark.

You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans... well fuck that. That about right? You know it is.

You people have all lost your fucking minds. You are selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and frankly... stupid. Your pathetic little misspelled protest signs are embarrassing. Maybe you ought to find the smart person in your midst and let them make up all the signs, cause man, you look like a bunch of idiots. Also you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny.

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. +1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

[FiveGoodMen]

5. Yup!

[JuniperLea]

6. +a googolplex!

:)

[Manifestor_of_Light]

17. Googol plex!!

Guggul is a herb from india.

Close, though.

:D


The googolplex is what I call the local multi-screen movie theater.

However, I live in a town so little there is no movie theater.

The nearest town 20 miles away has a "monoplex" or an "unoplex".


One screen.

:rofl:

[JuniperLea]

19. Stupid online spell check...

Plus hit and run... doh!

[Historic NY]

47. X 10.

[AuntPatsy]

2. I wish I could recommend this more than once....

[JuniperLea]

7. Keep it bumped so more people see it!

It begs for recs;)

[AuntPatsy]

23. Recommending again...we have a few who are here at this very moment who need to read this.

[JuniperLea]

29. I see your 3:19, and will raise you a 4:01!

haha!

[AuntPatsy]

33. How about a 7:23

[HowHasItComeToThis]

12. SEND TO DU FRIENDS AND OTHERS

[JuniperLea]

3. When people line up by the thousands for free health care in Los Angeles

You know we have reached third-world status. These people deserve better than to resort to chattel status. We have hit the moral and ethical wall on this one. But you know the Freepers and Birthers and Teabaggers will have something to say about how these people are lazy or whatever.

Yeah, everyone who lost their job recently and now find themselves without health care, or even a home, is just lazy and brought this upon themselves. GAWD I really hate these idiots. Forgive me, I can't keep from hating them.

http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE57C0PE20090813?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=0.

[xxqqqzme]

60. I'm there w/ you

I have zero tolerance for the willfully intolerant and the deliberate ignorance being proudly displayed like a badge of honor.

[DKRC]

4. K & R!

And bookmarked!

:yourock:

[alsame]

8. This is great! Do you mind if I copy and send to some

right wingers?

[walldude]

10. Knock yourself out...

[alsame]

13. Thanks! nt

[Kajsa]

113. Thanks, Walldude!

I know a lot of people who need to read this!

I'm sending this to them--

[ckimmy57]

137. Great

Ditto on the copy and paste to forward on.....:thumbsup:

[Caliman73]

9. Good post, but I think the underlying reason they are mad is that a Black person is in charge

They are scared that their "privileged" way of life is coming to an end, and it is.

[walldude]

11. Yeah I think so too but they will never say as much

so I'll call them on the stupid they are showing not the stupid they are thinking. :toast:

[Caliman73]

16. That's cool.

I'll call them on the stupid I have been exposed to all my life. Hit them from all angles.

:toast:

[DissedByBush]

54. Does that mean I'm privileged because I'm white?

Was I supposed to get a check or something? Some kind free ride or "white bonus"?

I think my mom forgot to sign me up for something back when I was born.

[Caliman73]

69. Yep, pretty much.

Here's is something for you to read that might help you understand that check, ride, "bonus", or whatever you want to call it. If you still want to talk after taking the information in and thinking about it for a bit, get back to me.

http://www.case.edu/president/aaction/UnpackingTheKnapsack.pdf

[DissedByBush]

148. Interesting how race-oriented that was

1, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, etc., only matter to people who think skin color is important.

15 is just false. Growing up in a predominantly poor Mexican neighborhood I was attacked for my race. My neighbor's white kid was recently attacked for her race by a black kid in grade school.

My kids know about racism and slavery and how it is/was wrong. Now they're going to have to learn that there is still a lot of racism around where I live, and it's blacks hating whites for their color.

[Caliman73]

150. Never mind dude.

You are a perfect example of what that article was addressing. Good luck....

[SammyWinstonJack]

107. Free ride or "white bonus"?

For realz? :eyes: Maybe your mon forgot to sign you up for some compassion. :shrug:

Or maybe I just misunderstood your post? :shrug:

[DissedByBush]

149. The "white privilege" BS needs to stop

I grew up poor, as in "we don't have enough money for food" poor exacerbated by a drunk, abusive drug-addled step father who couldn't keep a job. Did you know you can trade food stamps for booze?

But I never turned to drugs, crime or blaming my situation on anybody but my family. I kept my nose down, graduated high school, got the hell out and worked hard ever since.

Sorry, nobody ever gave me a free ride or special privilege to where I am now in the middle class. And I did it with affirmative-action college admissions and "equal opportunity" employment working against me. Companies, especially those looking for government contracts, need to show "diversity" if they want the job.

You want to talk "privilege," talk to my boss's boss. He was raised upper-middle class, free ride to a good college, white collar all the way.

And he's black.

At least that's what the racists would see first and foremost. All I see is a boss who knows his stuff so he gets my respect.

[Old Time Pagan]

114. Hmmmm...a black Lutheran street minister summed it up well

when he spoke at a community event my sweetie and I attended. He said that the best way to understand the situation white males in this society enjoy compared to what women and all minorities experience is this,

"White men have the wind at their backs."

Now as someone who ran the 440 in high school this explanation hit home. Typically the 440 is one full lap around the track at a full out sprint. Imagine running with a pack of people all doing their best. As you hit the last curve heading to the home stretch, you're winded, your lungs are burning, your legs feel like lead but you're determined to finish strong. In a fair race everyone experiences the same conditions at that turn. In our culture if you're a white male the wind is behind you, helping push you to the finish. Everyone else makes that turn and has the wind hit them hard in the face pushing against them, impeding their efforts to finish strong.

That's what all us white guys get in this society. Not a "check", not a "free ride", not a "white bonus", just an extra push towards the finish while everybody gets a bit of an impedance. Sorry if that's a problem for you to wrap your mind around.

Deal with it.

[Scout]

118. excellent post n/t

[Scout]

117. yes, you are privileged because you are white

a person of color with your exact training, education, background, skills, etc. is less likely than you to "get the job."

if you're a boy, then you're doubly privileged.

[RaleighNCDUer]

131. Have you never been followed around the store by a suspicious clerk

who didn't like the way you look?

Have you never had a job app shitcanned because of the spelling of your name?

Were you never ignored by the teacher when you raised your hand, knowing you knew the answer?

Have you never been gently guided to look for housing in a particular part of town - usually bounded by 'Martin Luther King Drive'?

Then you WERE signed up when you were born.

[Myrina]

99. Bill Clinton gave a speech to Netroots convention last night ...

... and explained it beautifully (paraphrasing): the world is changing, and people who are a/going to lose something in the change or b/ can't see how the change will ultimately benefit them, will resist it with all their might. And since the far-right has nothing left with which to work, they are playing on that uncertainty and resorting to fear and hate mongering to try to stop the change that's already happen(ed)(ing).

It was live on CSPAN, hope they do a replay over the weekend.

[Solomon]

14. Nice sneeze.

Geshundeit!

[Bobbie Jo]

15. Oh yeah...this gets a rec.

:kick:

[samsingh]

18. the repugs are stupid assholes

[girl gone mad]

20. Total estimated cost of the Iraq war = $3Trillion

Your number is just a little bit off. Other than that, +1!

[me b zola]

21. K&R

[Douglas Carpenter]

22. kick and recommended for the truth !!!!

[progressoid]

24. To be fair,

This pre-dates the health care thing. A good number of them got pretty mad that we elected a Democratic President. And a bunch of those were even madder that we elected a Black Democratic President.

[olegramps]

101. Add to Black, that he is a Muslim, non-American Black.

[unpossibles]

132. I am going to assume you are being funny here

by stating how the teabaggers see Obama, not that you believe that.

[Uncle Joe]

25. I believe you nailed the situation, walldude.

Thanks for the thread.:thumbsup:

[Soylent Brice]

26. that's it, i'm starting a fucking fan club for you dude.

FUCK

YEAH

!

K&R

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

66. CAN I JOIN TOO?

Do we get Party Hats?

[TheKentuckian]

27. Rec

[RagAss]

28. The bigots will bend themselves into a pretzel to protect their hate.

[Sebastian Doyle]

138. Maybe they can choke on it then?

Just like their pathetic hero, the Chimp did?

[Ikonoklast]

30. Preach it, brother!

Kickity-kick kick!

[chollybocker]

31. Game, set, match.

+1

[Veruca Salt]

32. k&r!!!

:applause:

[ThatsMyBarack]

34. I'm sick of them DRESSING UP in the flag....

To wave it in our faces. They do that EVERY TIME they protest whatever stuff they don't like. :eyes:

[AuntPatsy]

35. Then this should stay up top if you think about it so it will be in their faces when they visit here

[DCKit]

36. Thanks for the comprehensive list... it went to "The Family" unedited.

Getting tired of the "I wasn't political until now" excuse.

[mnhtnbb]

37. Yeah. Tell it.

[robdogbucky]

38. I also ask your permission to disseminate

far and wide.

I thank you, Walldude for your contribution to our community.

I will triple double recommend.



robdogbucky

[BlancheSplanchnik]

39. This is about right. We know it is.

I am SOOOOO saving this!!!

[Rainngirl]

40. YEAH!!!

It's going to take forever for me to get to 1,000 posts, so I can't kick and recommend--but I'll be forwarding the hell out of this link so people can read one of the best rants since Nance Gregg!!! Well done!

[BobTheSubgenius]

74. You don't need to reach 1000 posts to use the Recommend.

It's FAR less than that. Hang in there....and welcome to DU! :)

[valerief]

41. kick

:kick:

[_dynamicdems]

42. Amen. K&R

:kick:

[Cass]

43. Oh yeah!!

Love this rant, just love it!!

K and R!!! :kick:

[texpatriot2004]

44. Thank you for articulating what I have been thinking and

trying to figure out how to say. I agree with you on this. For eight years under the B*sh regime I restrained myself, held my temper, chose a peaceful path, as difficult as it was and as angry as I was about all of the things you mentioned above and more. I am outraged by the behavior of those people "protesting" health care reform when they did nothing about, much less protest against the criminal and immoral acts committed by B*shCo.

[Amos Moses]

45. That has to be the post of the day, walldude.

:applause: K&R

[ms liberty]

46. Can I get an AMEN! K&R - n/t

[Rex]

48. Best rant

ever

[scentopine]

49. Unfortunately, too many democrats didn't get made either...

and we will pay a heavy price for our apathy and cynicism. We need to fight for higher moral principals and justice or lose them both.

[tex-wyo-dem]

50. Excellent rant!

Not only are they selfish, greedy, obnoxious, narcissistic, and stupid, but they're complete fucking tools as well. The corporate propogandists have convinced them to go out and protest against their own best interests. They can't wrap their little brains around the fact that the dreded librals and their government, much less a black president, is actually trying to do something that will benefit us all.

Racists idiots...

[mwooldri]

51. Fantastic! I likey!

And to all those freepers, birthers and morons of all stripes who claim to be a Christian: grab out your bibles and read Luke 10:27. Memorize it. Especially the part about loving your neighbour. True, Jesus himself didn't say it but this was an "expert in the law" testing him and asking him what he needs to do to inherit eternal life... regrettably I don't see much of the neighbourly stuff going on with thie freeper and birther bile.

Mark.

[The Wizard]

52. They're not just mad

They're frothing at the mouth. There should be net squads at the town hall meetings to capture these loons and get them into treatment. Involuntary commitment might just be the remedy for Beck and Limbaugh followers.
A death cult by any other name..............

[BattyDem]

53. The one thing I hate about the "recommend" feature ...

is that I can only use it once and a great post like this deserves more! :applause:

[Mermaid7]

55. Yes but ...while all of this is true

and it was an excellent post if I don't say so myself
it is in a way 'singing to the choir'.

What really needed, is for us to mobilize.

If you truly want to DO something, Please check out this thread on DU. It was posted in the morning and hasn't got the notice it should have.

"Mad as Hell Doctors" Embark on Cross Country Care-A-Van to Demand Single-Payer from Congress"

Thanks everyone!

[sagetea]

56. Kick, kick, kick~N~R

n/t

[Joe Fields]

57. Wow! Just WOW! You said a mouthful, brother.

Like many others here, I wish I could rec this forever and keep it permanently on the greatest page. Too bad Skinner wouldn't make an exception, just this once...

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

58. KICK AND FUCKING RECOMMENDED!!!!

I will add the Blue Dogs to this list...

They said nothing when George 'Dumbya' Bush invaded an unarmed, sovereign nation...
They said nothing when George 'Dumbya' Bush and the Repukes borrowed from COMMUNIST CHINA to give $1.7 trillion in tax breaks to the rich and their wealthy corporate cronies...
They said nothing when George 'Dumbya' Bush and the Repukes went on spending sprees...

They did absolutely NOTHING to hold George Bush and his evil cronies accountable for all the crimes against humanity that were committed.

And now, suddenly--wait for it--the Blue Dog DemoCRAPS want to hold Obama accountable for spending, the deficit, the debt, the illegal wars, the recession, the collapse of the housing market??!?! Say what?!?!?!??!

[redwitch]

59. But I was having babies and my husband thinks for me

And I don't even know how much money we have, how could I possibly know about any of these things you're making my head hurt it's time to get my nails done and make dinner and organize the next meeting of the Glenn Beck fan club.

[nadinbrzezinski]

64. LOL, that was funny

[Stargazer09]

61. A pity

It's a pity that I can only recommend this post once.

Very well written and easy for the idiots to read, if they should ever open their eyes for a minute and look at something that might educate them.

[Lugnut]

62. K&R!

:applause:

[moonbatmax]

63. Oh, but...

(in best Cenk voice) of COOOOOOOURSE they got mad!

At the media!

God-D&#%D liberal media.

Never reports any of the good stuff!

Just 24-hour evil, bashing, America-hating negativity!

(Bad ol' libby crap)

[deep1]

65. BEST FUCKING THREAD ...........

I HAVE SEEN ON THIS BOARDS! I am so pissed off beyond words on how fucking stupid these right wingers are.

God, they are lucky they didn't live in my native country where they would be knocked around, America is too nice to these idiots

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

67. This needs to be made into 3 foot by 4 foot posters

Displayed Freely....

[20score]

68. Well done. I'm saving this.

[handmade34]

70. couldn't have said it better

[WillieW]

71. walldude please pm me

[puebloknot]

72. Midnight kick! Well said. nt

[winyanstaz]

73. K & R

thanks for this post...

[Granny M]

75. Well said. n/t

[Christa]

76. K & Highly Rec'd

please send it to Keith Olbermann.

[Turborama]

77. K&R, this is t-shirt/poster material!

:kick:

[ClayZ]

78. K and R to the max!

[SalmonChantedEvening]

79. Right fucking on walldude.

:fistbump:

[Highway61]

80. Wow

Just wow. You didn't hold back one iota! Well said and if OK, I would like to send this along to a few boneheads I know.

[walldude]

93. Please... send it!

[NewJeffCT]

81. I think Iraq is well past 600 billion now, isn't it?

not sure, though.

[walldude]

94. I guess it depends where you look.. I got it here:

http://costofwar.com/

It has a running count so I figured it was close to accurate...

[WillyT]

82. Can I Get An AMEN ?!?!? - K & R !!!

:woohoo:

:yourock:

:bounce:

:hi:

[drm604]

83. K&R

:kick:

[OwnedByFerrets]

84. K and R

[TheCowsCameHome]

85. Awesome.

[polmaven]

86. They didn't get mad

when the Congress of the United States formed a "forced life" panel for Terry Schiavo, trying to force her, against her stated wishes,to live.

[pleah]

87. K&R

[srf Rantz]

88. best post ever

you nailed it with this:

You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it... when the government decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, are all ok with you but helping other Americans... well fuck that. That about right? You know it is.

[Scruffy1]

89. morons

Same thugs who attacked civil rights and anti war activists in the sixties. Part racism and a lot of hatred from people who see themselves as victims and are looking for someone to blame for their forlorn existence. The big money powers have always been able to harness this negative energy. These people live in fear and I don't envy them.

[wizstars]

90. add this:

You didn’t get mad when rich people got richer through insane tax cuts while average people got nearly nothing.

[R. P. McMurphy]

91. k&r

You nailed it Walldude.

[malaise]

92. Super post walldude

K&R

[walldude]

95. Thanks for all the recs!

Nice to see my anger produce something that touches a nerve... :toast:

[DeeDeeNY]

97. You may have set a record for recommendations

Great post!!

:bounce:

[sellitman]

96. They didn't get mad for one reason

There wasn't a Black Man in the White House.

[Cal Carpenter]

98. Wait...

The government decided that people in America deserve the right to see a doctor if they are sick? I musta missed that.

I agree with your basic premise, that it's twisted this particular issue is what is bringing protesters from the right out in droves, but unless i am seriously mistaken I don't see anything in the proposed health care reform bills that will give me the right to see a doctor.

[walldude]

144. Well from where I'm standing the inclusion of people with

pre-existing conditions makes it a right for my family. Right now I can't get health insurance because people in my family are sick.

[Javaman]

100. The irony of these morons is...

they don't want "big" government in their lives dictating blah blah blah, BUT they have no problem with "big" government telling women what the can and can't do with their bodies.

so much willful ignorance.

[keepthemhonest]

102. Wow that sums it up .Thanks for saying so well.NT

[redqueen]

103. "You people have all lost your fucking minds."

:applause:

[annabanana]

104. This is all true.. . . .n/t

[SammyWinstonJack]

105. You forgot ARROGANT!

:thumbsup:

[Brewman_Jax]

106. K&R

This is why I can't stand freepers. :grr:

A mind is a terrible thing to waste.

:kick:

[keepthemhonest]

108. I just sent this to a bunch of people in my email

Sorry I should have asked for your permission first.It was just so good.Thanks

[Deep13]

109. Caring about America is unamerican!

Don't you know anything?

I'm glad someone is standing up to Obama's reign of compassionate rationality.

:sarcasm: <--in case it isn't obvious.

[tavalon]

110. I could not have said it better but I could have said it shorter

Fucking hypocrites!

Yours though, is much more thorough and satisfying.

[Kajsa]

111. I wish I could recommend this a hundred times!

Thank You!

:applause:

[barbtries]

112. it was that last line

that really drove it home for me. lol
well put, thank you

[felinetta]

115. These people have no humanity. Therefore being against health care

suits them.  They don't want to help other people.  I imagine
a lot of them are Chrisiians, too.

[Overseas]

116. That's more evidence of the extraordinary work of the right wing PR firms.

And adds to my anger at the conservative owned mass media that slip in little news-bytes about the town hall shout-downs with nary a mention of the far bigger story about the several right wing PR firms that are inflaming people so well that they can be driven to shout down their own best interests.

Pretty amazing, eh?

Instead of spending August talking about the many ways in which the current system of for-profit medical care is broken

and how the Medical Industrial Complex told us they could handle things better back in the 90's when they stomped out the Democrats' last attempt to introduce national health insurance, and have failed miserably to prove their case --

Instead of that we're treated to mass distraction and demonstration of the power of the right wing PR firms to create frenzy and drive it to dangerous levels behind the golly gee, just folks "grass roots" groups that have "always been there"-- dormant, as you note, during the most egregious violations of Republican administrations. Ginned up again and driven to even wilder heights of frenzy now that we have a Democrat in the house.

Look at the power of the dollar-- see what hundreds of millions of right wing cash can do.

[anachro1]

119. Look on the bright side

They will probably be appeased by being given cheap American flag pins made in Taiwan.

Or some other cheap, inconsequential, useless little trinket that easily impresses these simple folks.

They want NO government programs? Let's take away their Medicare and Social Security.

Do this only to the protesters.

I am AMAZED at how this country could let such stupidity flourish.

[DWilliamsamh]

120. I just Rec'd this...and shared it on my Facebook page. I encourage others to do the same. (n/t)

[The Blue Flower]

121. Exactly what I've been thinking

Where were they during the last administration? Sucking up all the lies like lemmings and happily destroying lives in a country that did nothing to us.

[Kermitt Gribble]

122. BAM! K&R! n/t

[Ignis]

123. Out of the park. K&R.

:kick:

[kleec]

124. Yes

I love hearing truth as these truths reflect my truths! Thank you!


:kick:

[Gregorian]

125. They didn't get mad when Pinhead repealed Habeas Corpus

I don't care whether it was for enemy combatants or just one person. This is the bedrock of America.
Bush ruined America, and they never whimpered. I don't care what happens to these people. That is how angry I am about this hypocrisy. That is my weakness. I cannot love these people. That is a problem with me. But still, it shows just how upsetting these people are.

I realize now that the worst thing in the world is a powerful idiot.

[vinylsolution]

126. Excellent list!

Repubs hate it when you hold a mirror up in front of them.

[bertman]

127. At long last THE PERFECT POST.

The next Presidential Medal of Freedom goes to . . .


Walldude.


Thank you.

[AlbertCat]

128. You finally got mad when.. when... wait for it...

A BLACK MAN WAS IN CHARGE.


It's obvious.

[RoccoR5955]

129. K & R.

You are totally correct!

[GAtomboy]

130. Now now... they DID get mad another time

They got spitting red in the face angry when we had the AUDACITY to question our president and his illegal war, or the illegal wiretapping, or illegal torture.... When we protested we were "unamerican" and "nazis". They tried to run us down and silence us. How DARE we question a president for his dictator... oh I'm sorry "decider" like actions while in office. They were furious with all of us.

Great post!!!

[NYC_SKP]

133. And that's just the SHORT list!

:applause:

Great Post!

[Mattylock]

134. Co-sign

:fistbump:

[Taverner]

135. They got mad when the president wasn't a white guy

[walldude]

145. True.. and when they admit that I'll have something else for them

As it stands right now according to the mentally deficient this is all about health care. And Birth certificates and Death Panels.

[debunkthelies]

136. K&R

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[Greyskye]

139. Bingo.

Rec #399, and a big :kick:

[Oldtimeralso]

140. K&R

Walldude you hit this one out of the park!
Can I forward this to a few freeper relatives?
Thanks Again for a GREAT rant.

[mullard12ax7]

141. My exact thoughts every time I see one of them screaming at a town hall

War crimes are fine with them, but mention health care for Americans and they are outraged!

[Rebel Scum]

142. Tell it brother!

Already rec it, gonna Tweet it to the masses. GREAT POST!

[ObamaKerryDem]

143. K&R...x1,000!! :D

:bounce: :dem: :kick:

[Truth2Tell]

146. Rec 420. So there. nt

[DeeDeeNY]

147. Keeping it kicked

:kick:

[Generic Brad]

151. Doubleplusgood!

[RagAss]

152. Amen....and they eat my shit by the pound too !

[newmac]

153. Well Said!

Run for your lives! Healthcare!!

[crazy_vanilla]

154. I don't think much of them anyway

so I don't expect any logic or reasoning in either their thoughts or actions

[graywarrior]

155. ! ! ! !

:toast:

[mfranko88]

156. It all made me mad

I am amongst the conservatives to which this rant is directed. A lot of the stuff on the list actually did make me mad, though I'm willing to bet for completely different reasons than anybody else in this topic. However, the only thing that made me more mad than anything in this rant is the undercurrent of elitism and the implication that I'm an idiot, even though I have sound philosophical and logical principles on which my arguments are based. I know it might be hard for someone who feels morally superior - what would happen to your shell hiding reality from you! - but could you listen to them before you write them off kthxbai.

And the retort about my mother made me the maddest. It made me cry. :'-(

[mwb970]

157. Oh, for God's sake.

:eyes:

[worthruss]

158. You didn't get mad volume II.

You didn't get mad when President Nixon conspired to take over the Government, which is High Treason, and got off without blame.

You didn't get mad when the movie makers and unions were called Communists, during the McCarthy hearings.

You didn't get mad when they shot our President, ignored the responsibility of the Dallas School System (responsible for segregation) for having so many hiding spots in it's building along the parade route; and then let the media replace him with the Beatles.

You didn't get mad when President Nixon ran on getting out of the war in Viet Nam, and still hadn't by his second term.

You didn't get mad when Diebold's voting machines were so easy to manipulate they went out of business.

You didn't get mad when the monopolized media called our Noble Peace Prize winning President Jimmy Carter weak, and helped fuel the hostage crisis.

You didn't get mad after 35 years of victimizing young girls, running on the anti-abortion platform and accomplishing nothing.

You didn't get mad when they threw away all your TV sets and gave the frequency to the police.

You didn't get mad when they threw away your right to privacy.

You didn't get mad when they claimed President Lincoln as theirs when they threw out his banking plan and pillaged the South after the Confederate war, and have plunged this country into recessions and depressions because of it.

You didn't get mad when they claimed profits would “trickle down,” urinated on us all and drove up the deficit spending money on Star Wars.

You didn't get mad when Ronnie took away Medicare for stay at home mothers.

You didn't get mad when they took away the right to equal time for opposing views on Television.

You didn't get mad when one of Bush's other relatives worked in the media and incorrectly reported the Republican's as being ahead in the polls, to influence people only wanting to vote for the winner.

You didn't get mad when the Republican's in power lost two space shuttles, overlooking by overlooking serious problems.

You didn't get mad when they wouldn't admit Marijuana is a well advertised Spanish word that was put in the legal system to persecute illegal aliens fighting to get into this country, and tried to make them all learn English which even after we get 12 years of in High School, the University system thinks we still need more of.

You didn't get mad when they started a war against people trying to care for themselves and created pharmaceutical slavery, with a constant bombardment of drug ads while taking over the food supply and manipulating the chemicals in your body like a science experiment.

You didn't get mad when they called distention against the government unpopular dirty hippie flag burner foolishness, and then turned into anti government protesters themselves.

You didn't get mad when they took over the entire country of Panama, too.

You didn't get mad when the Iran Contra evidence pointed to collusion in Iran.

You didn't get mad when they used the Lord's name in vain.

You didn't get mad when they swift boated Kerry, instead of working on our problems.

You didn't get mad when they replaced people at the EPA interested in preserving the environment including us with people interested in preserving the environment by starting more wars to eliminate more of us.

You didn't get mad when they replaced Mr. Diesel's hemp seed engine fuel with stinking dinosaur slime and encourage us to all get anointed with it.

You didn't get mad when they cut down our trees and told us that the paper Jefferson made himself and wrote the original draft of the Constitution on should be illegal.

Now that they've found that a lack of what Jefferson wrote the first draft of the Constitution on causes Alzheimer's disease, maybe you'll understand why we're all too confused to get mad.

And you probably aren't mad enough that a new weapon by Raytheon called the "Silent Guardian" which can make you feel like you are on fire whenever your are in the microwave's beam right through the side of your American home they've just made obsolete,and never leave a mark on you. Thanks again Raygun Ronnie for all that research money.

[bertrussell]

159. Nicely done

Thanks!

[Mari333]

160. k

[swright722]

161. I agree.......kinda

I agreed with everything you stated in your post with only one rebuttal..... Have you had the chance to actually read any of the lines in the health care bill? I am a supporter of Ron Paul so absolutely everything you spoke on, I couldn't agree with you more but I am pasting a copy of some of the lines in the health care bill that concern me. Tell me what you think....

Page 22 of the HC Bill: Mandates that the Govt will audit books of all
employers that self insure!!

Page 30 Sec 123 of HC bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVT COMMITTEE that
decides what treatments/benefits you get.

Page 29 lines 4-16 in the HC bill: YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!

Page 42 of HC Bill: The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your HC
Benefits for you. You have no choice!

Page 50 Section 152 in HC bill: HC will be provided to ALL non US citizens, illegal or otherwise

Page 58 HC Bill: Govt will have real-time access to individuals finances & a National ID Healthcard will be issued!

Page 59 HC Bill lines 21-24: Govt will have direct access to your banks accounts for elective funds transfer.

Page 65 Sec
164: is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in Unions & community organizations: (ACORN).

Page 84 Sec 203 HC bill: Govt mandates ALL benefit packages for private HC plans in the Exchange.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The Govt will ration your Healthcare!

Page 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill: Govt mandates linguistic appropriate services. Example - Translation: illegal aliens.

Page 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18: The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps to sign up individuals for Govt HC plan.

Page 85 Line 7 HC Bill: Specifications of Benefit Levels for Plans. AARP members - your Health care WILL be rationed.

Page 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill: Medicaid Eligible Individuals will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.

Page 124 lines 24-25 HC: No company can sue GOVT on price fixing. No "judicial review" against Govt Monopoly.

Page 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill: Doctors/ American Medical Association - The Govt will tell YOU what you can make! (salary)

Page 145 Line 15-17: An Employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE!

Page 126 Lines 22-25: Employers MUST pay for HC for part time employees AND their families.

Page 149 Lines 16-24: ANY Employer with payroll 401k & above who does not provide public option pays 8% tax on all payroll.

Page 150 Lines 9-13: Business's with payroll btw 251k & 401k who doesn't provide public option pays 2-6% tax on all payroll.

Page 167 Lines 18-23: ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable HC according to Govt will be taxed 2.5% of income.

Page 170 Lines 1-3 HC Bill: Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes. (Americans will pay)

Page 195 HC Bill: Officers & employees of HC Admin (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans finances /personal records.

Page 203 Line 14-15 HC: "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax" Yes, it says that!

Page 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill: Govt will reduce physician services for Medicaid Seniors, low income and poor are affected.

Page 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill: Doctors, doesn't matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same!

Page 253 Line 10-18: Govt sets value of Doctor's time, profession, judgment etc. Literally value of humans.

Page 265 Sec 1131: Govt mandates & controls productivity for private HC Industries.

Page 268 Sec 1141: Federal Govt regulates rental & purchase of power driven wheelchairs.

Page 272 SEC. 1145: TREATMENT OF CERTAIN CANCER HOSPITALS – Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!

Page 280 Sec 1151: The Govt will penalize hospitals for whatever Govt deems preventable re-admissions.

Page 298 Lines 9-11: Doctors, treat a patient during initial admission that results in a re-admission -Govt will penalize you.

Page 317 L 13-20: PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Govt tells Doctors what/how much they can own!

Page 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3: PROHIBITION on expansion- Govt is mandating hospitals cannot expand.

Page 321 2-13: Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception BUT community input is required. Can u say ACORN?!!

Page 335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339: Govt mandates establishment of outcome based measures. HC the way they want. Rationing.

Page 341 Lines 3-9: Govt has authority to disqualify Medicare Advance Plans, HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Govt plan.

Page 354 Sec 1177: Govt will RESTRICT enrollment of Special needs people! Unbelievable!

Page 379 Sec 1191: Govt creates more bureaucracy - Tele-health Advisory Committee. Can you say HC by phone?

Page 425 Lines 4-12: Govt mandates Advance Care Planning Consult. Think Senior Citizens end of life patients.

Page 425 Lines 17-19: Govt will instruct & consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!

Page 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3: Govt provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death. (assisted suicide)

Page 427 Lines 15-24: Govt mandates program for orders for end of life. The Govt has a say in how your life ends.

Page 429 Lines 1-9: An "advanced care planning consultant" will be used frequently as patients health deteriorates.

Page 429 Lines 10-12: "advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from GOVT!
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Page 429 Lines 13-25: The govt will specify which Doctors can write an end of life order.

Page 430 Lines 11-15: The Govt will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life!

Page 469: Community Based Home Medical Services = Non profit organizations. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?

Page 472 Lines 14-17: PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORIGINATION. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based organization. Like ACORN?

Page 489 Sec 1308: The Govt will cover Marriage & Family therapy. Which means they will insert Govt into your marriage.

Page 494-498: Govt will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.

Obviously I commented on some but you get the gist.

[DeadEyeDyck]

163. it is a little early in the day

for pizza. At least wait until the beer is cold

[DeadEyeDyck]

162. K/R +1

[miracle_tke]

164. Health care

What about a non-profit insurance agency whose focus is on maximizing benefits and not profits. Anything the government does will be a disaster. Which government program has succeeded?

We do not live in a democracy, we live in a republic which claims to be a democracy. If we were a democracy, we the people would vote in a health care bill, and we would vote line by line, not as a package deal.

The government is evil, and proves this time and time again by (taking what is not given) increasing taxes, global terrorism, and the largest incarceration rate in the world. Expecting the government to do something good is like expecting the Pope to become jewish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States

We talk about fighting evil in the world, what we do not realize is that we are the evil of the world. We are the evil because we sponsor our own government.

Representatives are the greatest evil in world. Hunger for nutrition, and the consumption of poison is the cause of disease.

I dream of a day when a true democracy can exist.

Riley

[fababs]

165. Agreed

Totally agree with all these statements. I awoke to the corruption and scandal in our political system during the Bush administration and have been fighting for peace ever since. I work with a media organization now and am investigating the current war. I made a three part segment composed of 6-10 minute installations breaking down who REALLY shapes our foreign policy, the true costs of the war thus far, and Obama's take on the war.

Check them out here:
http://yournetwork.tv/episodes.php

Thanks for continuing to spread truth and pushing for justice!

You guys rock!