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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:41 PM
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Giuliani believes in 'death panels'
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/1715547,rudy-giuliani-health-care-.article

BY ABDON M. PALLASCH apallasch@suntimes.com

Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani argued today that “it is natural” to assume that the Democratic health care reform plan will lead to “death panels” making end-of-life decisions for seniors.

“This is a real concern not made up by radio talk show hosts,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani, a once and possibly future Republican presidential candidate, headlined a three-day meeting of GOP state legislators from around the country at a “GOPAC” political action committee convention. The focus is on fighting the Democrats’ health care reform plan.

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While the health care reform bill passed by the U.S. House may not spell out “death panels,” Giuliani said simple economics hint to him that the panels would happen under the plan.

“President Obama says he will cover 30 to 40 to 50 million people who are not covered now — without it costing any money,” Giuliani said. “This is absurd. Health care — in case the Obama Administration hasn’t noticed, is very expensive. They will have to cut other services, cut programs. They will have to be making decisions about people who are elderly.”

Pressed on whether he himself believed the legislation calls for “death panels” to recommend hospice instead of treatment for the elderly, Giuliani said, “The only way in which you can save money the way the president and the House claims is by reducing care. So it is natural that some people would believe, particularly since they have these provisions for end-of-life decision-making councils, that it is natural that people would suggest that one of the ways you would do that is to cut off care for the elderly. Whether they will do that or not I don’t know. ... People assume these Death Panels will be created. They have created that suggestion in the ambiguity of the legislation.”

(end snip)

Maybe he's bucking to be on one of the panels, eh?
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:43 PM
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1. He doesn't really believe that. Like everything else, it's just politically expedient for him.
These guys are smarter than that.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:46 PM
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5. I don't think Giuliani is too bright
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:55 PM
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11. Perhaps a Palin-Giuliani ticket is in store for 2012?
They could take turns scaring people.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:45 PM
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2. The only "deaths" would be the death of insurance company mega-profits
And that's what is really behind this.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:45 PM
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3. Well, if anyone was going to capitalize on "death" you knew it would be Ghouliani.
Surprised he couldn't work in a 9/11 reference somewhere.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:45 PM
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4. Of course he does.
:eyes:

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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:47 PM
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6. He's not that stupid. He's pandering to the Palin mob.
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zeos3 Donating Member (912 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:48 PM
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7. The death panels have been here for years
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:49 PM
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8. is he adding "death panel" to his vocabulary of "noun, verb, 9/11"?
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deminks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:50 PM
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9. Ha!
:thumbsup:
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 06:51 PM
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10. Giuliani believes in any deceitful tactic that will further his political career.
He would tell ugly lies about his own children to get ahead.
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-13-09 07:04 PM
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12. This is a kind of a litmus test for pure evil.
Palin passes, Ghouliani911 passes, Newt passes...

anyone surprised?
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