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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:23 AM
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Thank you Senator Kennedy, for voting against The Patriot Act.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:25 AM
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1. Courgage. Strength of character. Refusing to be cowed. nt.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:25 AM
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2. When did he vote against it? To my knowledge, he voted for it twice.
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 08:26 AM by Mass
Are you talking about the attempt in 2005, where most Dems voted against it?
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:26 AM
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3. I think he voted against it in 2005
But for it in 2001. Even Paul Wellstone voted for it in 2001.
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:29 AM
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5. Nearly all dems voted against it in 2005 and some GOPers voted against it then.
Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 08:33 AM by Mass
(All but Ben Nelson, I guess. Even Lieberman). This is why it was defeated and then modified in 2006.

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00358

Not to diminish his merits which are huge in any case.

http://senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=2&vote=00029
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:26 AM
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4. He voted for it. Can we please not rewrite history?
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:38 AM
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6. I'm embarassed that I didn't remember there was a single Senator who voted no - Feingold
It's times like these that one is tempted to delete their own erroneous post. I usually leave them in to remind myself to always verify.

But I still think Sen Kennedy was a courageous and wonderful Senator.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:39 AM
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7. He was indeed. Oh, and I love your idea of calling the public option
"TeddyCare".
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:45 AM
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9. My first hope is for opening up Medicare to All and calling it Teddy Care
although there is faint hope of that happening at this point unless they are forced to scrap eveything and start over. I personally think what they are coming up with right now is so half-assed, that they might actually be forced to do that.

If they come up with a public option WORTHY ENOUGH to have his name on it, I think it would be a great memorial. For the record, I don't think Schumer's "level playing field" option comes even close.
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 08:41 AM
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8. he voted for it.
i think only Feingold, Kucinich, and Paul voted against it.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-26-09 09:12 AM
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10. Recommend
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