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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:06 PM Original message |
Chinese abortion ad: Is it crossing the line? |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Encouraging abortion? |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. Sorry but how is this encouraging abortion? |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Abortion is being shamelessly promoted here. |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. So? |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:27 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Point is, there are options. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. what other options might those be? |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. Contraception and maybe even abstience come to mind. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. wrong. |
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sweetpotato (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Sometimes contraception doesn't work, and abstinence is not an option |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:05 AM Response to Reply #42 |
181. It always comes down to punishment for these types. |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
142. Yeah like anyone would rather have major surgery than use a condom |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 11:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
157. It's a little late for that when you're actually needing the abortion... n/t |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #33 |
199. Those only work to prevent pregnancy. They do nothing to end a pregnancy, |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
210. So you're of the mind that women use abortion as a form of contraception? |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. I disagree. |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. +1! |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Great response! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #30 |
53. Well said. |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
71. Isn't it odd having others tell you how you SHOULD feel? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #30 |
75. Pre-fucking-cisely. |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
100. They're the same people screaming that the government |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #30 |
82. That myth just won't die. |
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Petrushka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 11:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
156. Weren't Chinese women forced to abort any child conceived after their first one? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:38 AM Response to Reply #156 |
187. Exactly right. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:05 AM Response to Reply #187 |
196. Actually that is mentioned in here several times. |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #196 |
260. Amen. nt |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #196 |
270. whaaa? |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #30 |
95. I wish there was a way to recommend posts. Well said Ceile. Thank you. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #30 |
106. + 1 |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
111. Me too. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #30 |
127. + 1 |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
180. +2 |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #30 |
192. I had exactly the same experience. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Way to impose Western morality on people of another culture, there. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
70. No reason it should be "the very last resport" |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
74. Why? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. The last resort? |
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snake in the grass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #25 |
79. Yes... |
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lillypaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
263. yesssssssss |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #25 |
83. Why should it be the last option? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Tying your tubes should be the first option |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
91. How nice of you to tell people what surgery to get. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. No shortage of authoritarians on this side of the isle. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. Mm, so what's your beef? It's more simple than abortion and can be done on an outpatient basis |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. Tubal ligation is considered permanent. I have inquired about having such a procedure done |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
112. And there are atrophies involved... |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #112 |
147. No, not everyone has a right to a choice. That was my point. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #147 |
151. I hear you, it is a multi facted consideration was mine... |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
128. thank you |
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SemiCharmedQuark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:13 PM Response to Reply #128 |
148. Not only that, it's another example of how women aren't in control of their bodies. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #98 |
130. dupe |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:39 PM Response to Reply #96 |
132. You must have replied to the wrong post |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Nor does this to me, "I cannot believe you are anti-choice, pro abstinence, you believe it's okay... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #136 |
141. Those are all things you brought up. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. This ridiculous DU brain police stuff is way too kitschy |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:17 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. Again, I don't know what you are on about. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. Oh, well, pick it up here they say there's no time like 'the now' |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #96 |
203. Good lord, the stuff that you write. Do you seriously believe half of it? |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #84 |
150. Is this a religious imperative to you? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 11:32 PM Response to Reply #150 |
159. I think an once of prevention is worth a pound of cure. Others don't - whatever |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 11:27 PM Response to Reply #84 |
158. Again, sometimes it's a bit late for that. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
226. Jesus, you are a piece of work. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
131. You are aware of the one child policy in China? |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
179. Yes it IS often a simple and quick decision. It is also often a GOOD decision. |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
52. Sew buttons on eggs, aren't you actually saying that cheap, mechanical, doggy-style sex... |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 11:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
160. You gave me multiple visuals in this post... ewww. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:28 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Typical sex-obsessed anti-choicer. eom |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:39 AM Response to Reply #161 |
166. How convenient, ad hominem in a throw away wax box with a little straw eom |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #166 |
169. Ad hominem? Hardly. Your "slut-shaming" responses in this thread give you away. eom |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:06 AM Response to Reply #169 |
175. Now you're just being ridiculous, the blithe ways in which are skirted... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:44 AM Response to Reply #175 |
177. Again, your own posts on this thread give you away |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #177 |
202. MmHm, I recognize the display of emotionally brittle intransigence... |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #202 |
213. If that was supposed to be satire, it wasn't funny |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #213 |
217. Pro education & prevention is anti-choice? Who made you doppelganger pope of this place? |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. Go peddle that bullshit on an anti-choice site |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:47 AM Response to Reply #160 |
167. I know huh, I trip when I drive my *car* through one of those things but thanks for getting it... |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:26 AM Response to Reply #167 |
170. Now anytime I drive through one... |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #52 |
172. Whaaat? Get therapy you sad person |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #52 |
204. Your posts make me think you are very ignorant of sexuality and of abortions |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #52 |
264. "jizzy"? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. "As if it is a good thing, easy and quick and with no repercussions." |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. So a child is a mere "crotch dropping" to you? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. blah, blah, blah, yadda yadda |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Adoption, contraception, or maybe even abstinence. |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. Read much? |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
88. why do people who say "you have to take responsbility" always |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
163. Because your belly gets big and every one knows what a dirty, dirty slut you are. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #163 |
211. Exactly. Thank you for putting it so succinctly |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
251. Yeah, I could never figure that out. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
109. sorry, not into shaming women |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 07:53 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. And yours reek of selfishness and narcissism. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 07:58 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. oh, but it's okay for you to demonize women |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 07:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. I'm not demonizing anyone. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Deleted message |
Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Be my guest. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. why are you on DU anyway? |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Why? Because they don't agree with yours? |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:19 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. on HuffPo or AlterNet they don't have to agree with mine |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:34 AM Response to Reply #120 |
185. Deleted message |
Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #113 |
164. But it's not selfish and narcissistic to want to impose your sexual morals on others. |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:25 AM Response to Reply #113 |
184. The difference is you are wrong. It is a painless and simple issue for most. If you're having |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
118. news flash: |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:17 AM Response to Reply #118 |
183. Me too. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:08 AM Response to Reply #44 |
182. And part of that responsibility is the option of having an abortion. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #44 |
208. and getting an abortion is....irresponsible always? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #31 |
77. It's not child. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #31 |
162. Until she gets older and has sex. Then she's a whore who should be punished with a baby, according |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 08:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
195. No, it isn't a child. And it has never in history been recognized as human enjoying full rights. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #31 |
206. a woman aborts a "child". thank you for clarifying |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #206 |
215. Yep. (nt) |
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Matariki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
47. Why should there be 'repercussions'? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #47 |
80. You should feel bad |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #16 |
72. It is a good thing. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:23 PM Response to Reply #16 |
125. "Just because I am not interested in standing out in front of a clinic with tape over my mouth" |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:54 AM Response to Reply #16 |
178. Abortion is often a good thing, easy and quick w/no repercussions |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
186. In China ... |
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yearning_4_zion_IL (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #16 |
200. I agree with you 100%. Some like to jump down your throat if you admit this, though |
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skygazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:42 AM Response to Reply #200 |
216. And I know several people who had abortions and had no serious repercussions from it |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-01-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #216 |
271. Personally .. |
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EOTE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
207. Very flawed logic you've got there. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #16 |
225. The Chinese think differently about this. I had some very well educated Chinese women in my ESOL |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
201. but young women will get pg JUST so they can take advantage of this offer |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
205. Exactly. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #205 |
224. Why should there be any shame? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. Oh, for crying out loud! |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #32 |
176. Another casualty of the global mind-fuck industry. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #1 |
122. - 1K |
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northernlights (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
248. China has a serious, serious, serious overpopulation problem |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. not in my book. Most students don't have much income. |
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Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. if they were not being charged then there would be no need for a student discount |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
4. That's China, not the US. China, home of the One Child policy. China, home of forced abortions... |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Good point... |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Great post. |
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Glorfindel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #4 |
22. As an impartial observer with no personal stake in the future... |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
43. Are you serious? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
46. You are very much misinformed. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
54. There are a lot of catastrophic problems facing all of humanity, one way or another. |
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BolivarianHero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
143. Not the policy itself... |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #4 |
265. 4th post points out the cultural aspect, yet the flamefests rage |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Not offended at all. |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. A tad shocking, yes. |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. "Support Abortion, Shop Wal-Mart" |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. Finally! Something good to import from China. n/t |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. The only way one would find this offensive is if they were against womans' rights.. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #10 |
50. The Chinese are sort of against human rights, but that's another story. nt |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
11. Free contraceptives would be an even better offer -n/t |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Agreed! |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I could get behind that. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #19 |
212. and if those contraceptives fail, then what? |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. What line? |
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Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
15. Remember....your talking about China. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
266. Post #8 also states the obvious cultural aspect, left out of DU's flamefest |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
18. Crosses what line? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Deceptive advertising maybe? n/t |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. In what way? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. The implication that it is painless and will never affect your work or studies. |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #66 |
73. By all means.. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:50 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. Many abortions aren't surgical. |
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girl gone mad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #66 |
145. lol. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
20. Not at all. Reasonable. Did the US ever get the discount on contraceptives for college coeds back? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
21. Maybe they should have a buy one get one free, or get Billy Mays to do the ads |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
24. I don't see anything wrong with the ad. nt |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
26. China is taking a stand against overpopulation. |
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daedalus_dude (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
27. I thought under communism abortions were free? |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
107. ...... |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
165. No they're only free under Obamacare. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
34. it doesn't bother me one bit |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
35. Well |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'm sure China gives a hoot what we think about this. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. "won't hurt, it's quick, ... it won't affect your studies or your work" |
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toadzilla (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. have you ever had an abortion? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. All abortions are painless? Wow "learned" something new today. n/t |
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toadzilla (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. with the aid of anesthesia, its true. not much pain is involved. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. no pain afterwards? |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
99. Painless vs "not much pain is involved" = NO PAIN? |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. If the majority of their clients experience little to no pain, then the ad isn't deceptive |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I didn't say it was a conversation for the doctor. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #67 |
101. "won't hurt" DOES NOT = "little to no pain". |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #101 |
190. and if most clients don't experience pain, then the ad is not deceptive |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 07:54 AM Response to Reply #101 |
191. Didn't hurt at all. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:35 AM Response to Reply #59 |
214. Read it again "that's pretty much a true accurate description, assuming there are no complications." |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
188. A typical abortion takes less than 5 minutes |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
49. It openly acknowledges the very issues that women worry about |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why do so many people hate women? |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. +1 |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
110. + 1 |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #51 |
123. +1 |
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Dramarama (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
257. Pretty blanket statement |
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frebrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
56. It's the Chinese's business.....eom |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
60. It's Chinas business, not ours. nt |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:27 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. I second that...nt |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
62. Oh NO! Their encouraging naughty Chinese girls to have sex!! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. Deleted message |
noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #81 |
92. racism, sexism, pedophelia |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
63. Does not bother me at all, I do not find it offensive |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
85. Hey, it's a cultural thing. Gotta love the Chinese! |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:35 PM Response to Original message |
86. China could give a shit about the sanctity of human life... |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:43 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. What country are we talking about, again? |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. This one, but I don't think these guys are worrying about abortion services |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #87 |
153. China's political system is much more about corporate interests |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #86 |
135. Shit, even I don't believe in the sanctity of human life. |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #135 |
152. Whoever said that you can't have both? |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
90. I don't have a problem with it. nt |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
94. Students need affordable choices (well everyone does) |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
97. Good. Unlike many pro choicers, I am 100% PRO ABORTION |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:20 PM Response to Original message |
102. It's a chinese add they don't have the social stigma of abortions |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. + 1 |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
103. It's not encouraging abortion. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
104. Are You Not Familiar With China's "One Child" Policy? |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
105. Nope..it's China. They think differently about abortion there. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
124. I can't answer your question until you define what "the line" is that could be crossed. |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #124 |
134. That seems to be the question. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
126. Unless girls are going out a getting pregnant just to take advantage of these great deals... |
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SmileyRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. +1 |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:09 PM Response to Reply #126 |
139. Oh, I bet they are. |
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Jazzgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
133. No. |
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UnseenUndergrad (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
137. I promised myself never to post on another one of thse threads... |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
138. Seems like a good useful ad to me. |
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UnseenUndergrad (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
140. Of course, of course... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:02 AM Response to Reply #140 |
173. There are more than a few anti-choice authoritarians here and in the party at large. n/t |
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bridgit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 10:06 PM Response to Reply #138 |
146. Well now there you go: it's colored like an Obama campaign website... |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-27-09 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
155. Fundies think Made In China is #1 by going to Wal Mart. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
168. I think it's disgusting. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:36 AM Response to Reply #168 |
171. So do I! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #171 |
174. The Chinese government would probably go as high as 75% off.... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 08:12 AM Response to Reply #171 |
193. With a free gender test thrown in..... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #168 |
198. Why? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #198 |
218. I have no problem with abortion. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #218 |
221. It's just a simple procedure... how is it being 'minimized'? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:57 PM Response to Reply #221 |
228. It is a just a simple procedure and it's also a serious decision. |
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lillypaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
189. Abortion should be legal and safe |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #189 |
209. I have worked in a clinic that provides abortions as well |
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lillypaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #209 |
262. Right on |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 08:16 AM Response to Original message |
194. THERE ARE TOO MANY HUMAN BEINGS ON THE PLANET. |
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47of74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #194 |
197. Stop yelling |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
220. Nope... not anymore than an ad regarding surgery |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #220 |
222. That's the thing... due to all the demagoguery, people don't see it as a simple procedure. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #222 |
229. I say fuck'em.... fuckem all.... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. No, they don't... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #220 |
230. While I fully support womens rights, I don't think abortion is automatically... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 01:58 PM Response to Reply #230 |
232. What "significance"? Abortions happen spontaneously all the time. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #232 |
233. Just because it can happen naturally does not mean it isn't significant. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:20 PM Response to Reply #233 |
234. I'm saying it's not automatically as emotionally loaded as so many assume. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #234 |
236. But it seems as though you might be making the mistake of going to the other extreme... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:26 PM Response to Reply #236 |
238. Nobody is assuming it's easy. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #238 |
241. I don't want to burden women with guilt. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #241 |
242. When you parrot that nonsense... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. What nonsense have I "parroted"? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #244 |
247. "downplaying the significance of abortion" |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #247 |
252. Oh that's my fault I should have been more clear... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #252 |
254. Or possible significance, yes. |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #234 |
237. thank you...it's utter fucking nonsense |
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noiretextatique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. what is so "significant" about it? |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:29 PM Response to Reply #235 |
239. You are aborting a fetus that, when left untouched, would likely develop... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. OK, so you've not only internalized the BS, you're spreading it. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #240 |
243. sigh...well you missed the point and jumped to conclusions... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #243 |
246. *potential*... that is what ties sperm to a fetus. |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:52 PM Response to Reply #246 |
250. Sperm has no potential... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #250 |
253. Because even though we mostly agree... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #253 |
255. Okay I get what you are saying... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:06 PM Response to Reply #255 |
256. That's not how the fundies view it... |
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armyowalgreens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #256 |
258. Well I think we can all agree on one thing... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #258 |
259. LOL |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
223. It does. Because school uniforms are WRONG. |
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philosophie_en_rose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
227. Abortions should be free. |
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dembotoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
245. why are we all in a froth over some stupid ad in china?????? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #245 |
249. Puzzling isn't it? |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 03:55 PM Response to Reply #245 |
261. Agreed. Has nothing to do with the u.s. why do we care? |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
267. Whose "line" is it crossing? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-28-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
268. Always nice when DU and China line up ethically. |
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EndersDame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-29-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #268 |
269. It is so nice when DU and the Right Wing line up ethically |
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