When Laura Bush dies, I want all the networks to speculate about her boyfriend's death

[Lerkfish]

When George W. Bush dies, I want all networks to bring up his alchoholism, alleged drug use and AWOL records. I want his connections to the Bin Ladin family detailed.
When Georg H. W. Bush dies, I want all networks to bring up his alleged involvement in a chld sex ring in the watergate hotel party before he was president.
When Jeb Bush dies, I want all networks to bring up his selling of defective pumps to New Orleans.
When Cheney dies, I want all networks to bring up his 5 deferments, his hit squads, his shooting his lawyer in the face, and what exactly he was doing with that swiss miss instead of his wife.

When Rumsfeld dies, I want all networks to bring up stovepiping of information to prevent congress from getting accurate information on Iraq. I want that picture of him shaking hands with Hussein brought up.

If they can bring up chappaquidick (sp?), then they can bring up this stuff, too.

[Hannah Bell]

1. the defective pumps story i hadn't heard. trust the bushes to fuck you every time.

it should have been front-page news.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17597203/

[greenbriar]

2. this!

well said

[inna]

7. omg. thank you for the info, i had no idea. nt

[timeforpeace]

3. "If they can bring up chappaquidick (sp?)," Two d's I believe.

[jmowreader]

4. You are making a very large assumption here

Namely, you're assuming that any of those individuals are capable of dying. Last I checked, vampires like the Bushes are immortal.

[LibDemAlways]

66. Old man Bush is still jumping out of airplanes on his birthday.

I suspect you may be right. They will be around to torment us forever - and they know it.

[LiberalFighter]

78. For the media to suggest it is a big deal for the a o to jump out while attached to a man

is ludicrous.

What would be amazing for the a o to jump without the assistance of a buddy.

Better yet, without a parachute.

[BonnieJW]

85. But he couldn't make it to Teddy's funeral.

[LibDemAlways]

93. I'm arguing with Bush apologists on another thread who

are conviced that the old geezer must be on his last legs and that's the only reason he wasn't in attendance. LOL

[calimary]

94. Just as well. Too bad his spawn couldn't have stayed away, too.

Didn't miss him OR barbara, at all.

I was just reminiscing about barbara bush's completely loutish, thoughtless selfishness and insensitivity and total lack of class when reagan's body was lying in state in the Capitol Rotunda in Washington for a few days. When the elder bushes arrived to walk by the coffin, your eyes were almost pierced to blindness by what she had on. It was evening, and properly so, everyone was dressed in dark, subdued tones or black clothing - befitting such a somber occasion. Whether you liked/supported him or not, it was the appropriate thing to do on such an occasion. But by God there she was, ol' barbara bush, stepping into view dressed in a glaring, blinding white dress. It was nothing but a "HEY EVERYBODY, LOOK AT ME-ME-ME-ME-ME-ME!!!!!" AWFUL. Just a complete disgrace! She should have been ashamed of herself. I doubt she has such a built-in sense of humility, since I've never seen her demonstrate any such trait. That was SHAMEFUL. It wasn't about YOU, barbara.

I will never, ever forget that. That single moment told me everything I ever needed to know about that woman. And none of it is good. She may be some sort of political aristocrat, but she's got NO class. The kind of class that counts, that is.

And it should be pointed out that at Ted Kennedy's wake and funeral, and perhaps BECAUSE it was a Kennedy family event, it was drowning in class. Wall-to-wall and 150 stories tall. The Kennedys are nobility and elegance and service - fueled by the belief that you gave back to your country that supplied you with so many opportunities. And if the gifts were great, then your give-back was correspondingly great. Basically - much blessed, much obligated. If you're able, you should make it your life's mission, or your career's. It was clear who the so-called "America's royal family" was. And it's also clear why you never hear the bush family described as such. OR the reagans, either, for that matter. No wonder little george looked uncomfortable. He was surrounded by a) class and couth beyond his imaginings and b) Democrats. Spectacularly out of place. Probably felt like he was in enemy territory. No, george. Alien territory - for you anyway.

[DireStrike]

88. Novakula just died!

Not too long ago. They said it was cancer, but perhaps some enterprising young hunter finally staked him.

...or maybe he was just a wannabe vamp in the first place. PRETENDING to the condition and hoping every day that his masters would turn him. I don't think he ever amassed enough wealth and power to be considered worthy. Last laugh's on him!

[imdjh]

5. Much better documented are Jeb's Latin American gangster connections.

I can't figure out why Florida cared so little about that.

[WinkyDink]

54. 1. Sugar. 2. Cubans/Cuban-Americans.

[wildbilln864]

6. Not a chance!

Remember they never mentioned a word about W's treasonous grandpappy Prescott! :banghead:

[KittyWampus]

8. Actually, When Junior dies I want the lies that lead us into Iraq covered not his alcoholism.

And that accident with Ted Kennedy was a significant event in his life and career.

I admire him BECAUSE he made mistakes and then succeeded in correcting course.

In a way, the reactions to talking about Chappaquiddick remind me of when Freepers used Obama's middle name Hussein. Some liberal freaked out. Others learned the best course was to embrace it.

[NoPasaran]

9. The difference is that they put Chappaquiddick in the balance to counter all the good that EMK did

With the Bushies, that's not going to be a factor.

[sarge43]

10. Re dancing on Jebbie's grave

Along with the defective pumps, I want all the networks to pick apart the political reasons why he set in motion the legal harassment of a citizen about a deeply private and painful medical decision, ya know the Schiavo case.

[malaise]

11. I agree 100%

Rec

[butterfly77]

12. Kick &Recommended

[midnight]

13. Thank you for this. I hope that they will bring up everyone of this

important tid bits.

[rhett o rick]

14. How about telling us GHW bush's involvement in the assassination of JFK. nt

[enid602]

15. Marvy

I want to know why Marvin Bush´s maid mysteriously died after accidently being run over by an SUV poorly prked in the the uphill driveway of the Bush residence.

[Sebastian Doyle]

16. And you can't talk about Marvin Bush without discussing the fact

that his company was in charge of security for a couple of really tall buildings in Manhattan.

That would be, the ones that no longer exist.

[enid602]

17. Marvy

Not to mention that he was simultaneously on the Board of Directors of the company that arranged for hazard insurance of that same complex, and somehow forgot to notify the SEC of possible conflicts of interest.

[Hannah Bell]

28. it's funny how the bushes seem to be involved in nearly every disasterous event down the pike.

[disndat]

50. And don't forget,

Marvin's security company called off the bomb sniffing dogs days before 9/11. How is that for connecting the dots?

[ananda]

57. And don't forget about Neil Bush..

.. and the savings and loan scandal.

[DireStrike]

89. And the asian whores

probably sex slaves is a better term. No need for a guy like him to worry about the details though.

The Bush divorce, completed in April after 23 years of marriage, was prompted in part by Bush's relationship with another woman. He admitted in the deposition that he previously had sex with several other women while on trips to Thailand and Hong Kong at least five years ago.

The women, he said, simply knocked on the door of his hotel room, entered and had sex with him. He said he did not know if they were prostitutes because they never asked for money and he did not pay them.

"Mr. Bush, you have to admit it's a pretty remarkable thing for a man just to go to a hotel room door and open it and have a woman standing there and have sex with her," Brown said.

"It was very unusual," Bush said.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/11/25/bush.brother.reut/

[PCIntern]

18. this is a great post and

with slight modifications should be a LTTE to a major newspaper...
Wonderful...

K & R

[intheflow]

30. I agree, it would make a good LTTE. n/t

[tishaLA]

19. Not to mention George HW Bush's affair with Jennifer Fitzgerald

It went on for decades and everyone in Washington knew about it...and the press dutifully turned a blind eye.

[defendandprotect]

83. I thought that was so funny . . .

because she looked a lot like Barbara -- white hair, etc?

[chat_noir]

90. Robert Dole and Rep. Jack Kemp pushed the "Bush mistress" story

Reports of George H. W. Bush's liaisons have circulated among journalists for more than a decade in the same way that reporters laughed about President Kennedy's dalliances back in the '60s. The New York Times in 1981 published a story that Bush had been nicked by a bullet while leaving the home of a mistress on Capitol Hill. The Washington Post story on the same rumor included a question from a reporter to Deputy Presidential Press Secretary Larry Speakes (from the official White House Press Briefing): Q. "Larry, I think a lot of us have heard that rumor and there's more to it. . . . Why don't you see if he was engaged in some kind of situation. . .?" .
Many members of Bush's staff have said they believe he had a longtime affair with his former appointments secretary, Jennifer Fitzgerald—who has told many fellow workers about it—and another affair with the widow of a former Midwestern congressman.

The campaign staffs of both Senate Minority Leader Robert Dole and Rep. Jack Kemp pushed the "Bush mistress" story in 1988 trying to head off Bush's nomination. The late Republican National Committee Chairman Lee Atwater boasted of defusing the widespread rumor by simply getting George Bush Jr. quoted in Newsweek saying "the answer to the Big A question is N.0." This denial astonishingly was accepted by the national news media as proof that there was no "Big A question."

Bush "disappeared" frequently in 1978 and 1979, telling journalists that he was attending clandestine meetings with fellow former CIA directors. The other spookchiefs say the meetings never were held.



http://www.nathanielblumberg.com/neil.htm

[Time for change]

20. Excellent points

Of course, the stage has already been set. The networks never made a big deal about those things before, so they certainly won't when those people die. On the other hand, they made a great big deal over chappaquidick, so it was not much of a surprise that they brought it up when Teddy died.

Gotta keep those Democrats in their place.

And don't forget about the young lady who was found dead in Joe Scarborough's office, which was barely mentioned by our corporate news media.

[mod mom]

42. Yes perhaps someone will ask JOE SCARBOROUGH about the DEAD INTERN live on tv

I would love to see his surprised look on his face.

[stray cat]

21. What is there to speculate about with either one - they both happened and are part of history

[fudge stripe cookays]

61. Yeah, jeepers.

How about that?

We're onto you, troll.

[this_side_up]

22. Add Jimmy Jeff's 200+ overnight

White House visits. And still no explanation of whom he
was servicing. Or who paid him. Cash or check?

[moriah]

23. I think the reason Republicans like to talk about Chappaquiddick is....

.... because they are so damn proud of themselves for studying 40 years to be able to spell it.

[democrat2thecore]

24. In reality, the networks couldn't cover the death of Ted Kennedy w/out discussing 1969

It was, even by his own account, a defining moment of his life - and certainly his career.
I was impressed with how LITTLE it was discussed.
The Kennedy coverage - by and large - was magnificent and a weekend to remember.

[BuyingThyme]

25. Rumsfeld will die in a prison cell.

[Sebastian Doyle]

72. And when he's there, I hope they do NOT feed him bread and water

Just feed him only food and drink sweetened with his own favorite nerve toxin, Aspartame (Nutra Sweet) and watch him lose what's left of his putrid mind.

Yeah, that's cruel and unusual punishment, but he's the bastard who signed the patent.

[Dramarama]

26. Two wrongs..

[babyblonde]

27. Smart Brother Jebs Greatest Act

POOR POOR TEACHERS OF FL.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/12/1/416528/-The-Bush

[Prophet 451]

29. Bravo, well said n/t

[KoKo]

31. We won't ever see this...but, it's OKAY to Dream...If Only! n/t

[sabrina 1]

32. When Bush and Cheney die

I want the media to bring up the killing of over one million dead Iraqis.

I also want them to mention the torture memos

When Neil Bush dies I hope they mention his conviction in the S&L scandal.

[felinetta]

33. Thank you. I thought of Pickles too.

[EFerrari]

34. Her boyfriend? I want to hear about all those couches she skinned

to clothe herself.

:rofl:

[lib_wit_it]

35. lol!

[dgibby]

39. Right!

How many poor little Naugas had to die for that woman's vanity?

Oh, the inhumanity of it all!

[avebury]

36. Had Joe Scarborough brought up Chappaquiddick?

I hope Scarbarough hasn't brought up Chappaquiddick since he had a dead intern found in his office when he was in Congress.

[urgk]

37. Let's not forget Morning Joe and his intern. n/t

[dgibby]

38. Brilliant!

I'm printing this out for posterity. Please send it to the major networks. Let them know we're on to them! In fact, if you don't mind, I'd like to forward this to Keith and Rachel.

[Lerkfish]

40. go right ahead, you have my permission

:)

[dgibby]

44. Thanks!

:fistbump: :yourock:

[Soylent Brice]

41. K&R

[OwnedByFerrets]

43. K and R

[secondwind]

45. er, um, Poppy Bush also had a mistress..........Clinton didn't

[Captain Hilts]

47. Jennifer Fitzgerald. State Dept. employee in charge of 'gifts'. nt

[Captain Hilts]

46. There's a logic there I cannot deny...nt

[Highway61]

48. What a wonderful piece to read

first thing in the morning. Thank you and a big K & R.

[disndat]

49. Why wait until the Bushies are dead?

While their negatives on Ted Kennedy are still fresh in people's mind, let's remind the people the ugly truth about Repugnicans.

[WinkyDink]

51. Prescott, baby, Prescott. I want the Nazi love revealed.

[Beacool]

52. How could they avoid covering Chappaquiddick?

It was a defining moment in Teddy's life. His behavior that night was reprehensible, no amount of time can negate the fact that he didn't report the accident until many hours later. There is a good chance that Mary Jo would be alive today if he had reported it right away.

Teddy was a complex and flawed man, like so many others in politics. He did so much good from his senate seat, but he also did some things that were not so good. Although, in the long run the good outnumbered the bad.

;)

[Captain Hilts]

56. "Mary Joe would be alive today if he had reported it right away." Huh??? nt

[Beacool]

58. Huh, what?

The diver that got the body out of the car the following morning said that she was found where the the air pocket would have been and if someone had called him right away (apparently he lived only 5 min. from the scene of the accident) he might have been able to save her. Teddy didn't report the accident until 9 - 10 hrs. later.


BTW, forgot to say hello. How are you?

:hi:

[NewJeffCT]

53. It won't happen, sorry to say

The RWers have been making Chappaquiddick an issue for 40 years now. No matter what Teddy did as a senator, their response was simply "Chappaquiddick" - it's been out in the public since it happened.

Almost nobody has heard the story of Laura Bush killing her former fiance. When people bring up Laura Bush, the first response from Democrats isn't "fiance killer" or "ran down her boyfriend in a car" or similar. They usually just comment that she seems like a nice person, blah blah blah. I suspect when she passes, it will be quietly.

[comtec]

55. hmmm I dont think the SS would appreciate my sense of humor or hyperbol

lets just say I hope she gets the Dracula treatment when she kicks it... and 10000000 times worse for cheney!

[Hubert Flottz]

59. Great point...I too was sickened by their sorry shit!

How about that time Reagan was shot and the brother of the guy that did the shooting, had just spent the night before at GHW Bush's son's house in Colorado?

The first one I saw attack Edward kennedy was Mourning Joe on the same day that the man died. All I could think about besides how I'd like to spend a couple of rounds in a boxing ring with Joe, was about the dead gal in Joe's office. Of course the dead girl in Joe's office got zero attention at the time, because everyone was bashing Gary Condit and as I recall, everyone on TV was just positive that he'd murdered Chandra Ann Levy.

[onenote]

60. here we go again

First, anyone who thinks that the networks should have ignored Chappaquiddick is someone who thinks that the networks should whitewash history. It is a part of Teddy Kennedy's history. I watched a lot of coverage and it was far and away positive in its overall treatment of Teddy's legacy, as it should have been. But to pretend that Chappaquiddick didn't happen and that it wasn't considered, by him as well as the public at large, as a stain on Teddy's life and career would be re-writing history.

Second, treating as equivalent how a 37 year old United States Senator handled an accident that cost a life and how a 17 year old high school student handled an accident reflect a smallness of mind that is quite remarkable. And it ignores the fact that in the end Laura Bush was just First Lady, not someone with anywhere near the historical significance of Teddy. Its just a false comparison.

Finally, in case anyone is wondering, I admired Teddy Kennedy greatly, and was one of those that went downtown on Sunday to pay my respects as his body made its journey to its final resting place at Arlington. And I will undoubtedly make it a point to stop by and continue to pay my respects whenever I'm at Arlington cemetary.

[woo me with science]

65. Thank you. Especially for this part.

"I watched a lot of coverage and it was far and away positive in its overall treatment of Teddy's legacy, as it should have been. But to pretend that Chappaquiddick didn't happen and that it wasn't considered, by him as well as the public at large, as a stain on Teddy's life and career would be re-writing history."

I get so sick of the flip side of Freeperville over here. Nobody on our side can ever do ANY wrong at all, and everyone on the other side is pure, unadulterated evil. Give me a break.

[Rebubula]

62. Geez...

....let it go.

One persons transgressions do not erase another person's errors.

I understand your frustration, but to continue to bring up a long dead story is really lame. There is a BIG difference between a 17 year old person killing someone (never been any evidence or implication she was under the influence of anything other than youthful stupidity) and staying at the scene until authorities arrived and a 40 year old Senator of the US driving drunk off a bridge and waiting hours before sending rescue teams - most experts agree that Ms. Kopechne was alive with an air bubble in the car - and allowing a young person to die.

You can bring up anything that you like, but it really looks petty when you do.

[zanne]

63. A sign I saw at a town hall meeting on Saturday....

Some fool was standing outside the building holding a sign that said "Chappaquidicare". Real classy. I told him to grow up. His clever response was "No, YOU grow up". Sigh.

[1776Forever]

64. Check out this from "Born to Cheat" by Jackson Thoreau

Dodging the Draft, Cheating Investors, Extramarital Affairs

http://www.geocities.com/jacksonthor/cheat2.html

............

This one chapter says a lot about not only W but H.W. too and the rest of the family and how they were "raised" - Sick!

[cascadiance]

67. The networks were successful in getting you to forget to ask about Margie Schoedinger for Dubya!

That there was a court record alleging that he had raped her. She was an earlier aquaintance of his, and she was later founded "suicided" with a gunshot tot he head. Google her.

M$M DOES work!

[gopiscrap]

68. Excellent

Why wait until they die...just keep on bringing it up!!!!

[marshall]

69. Did Laura flee the scene of the accident?

I've been trying to find more details, but all I come up with is a police report that is lacking pertinent facts.

[T Wolf]

70. Police report has been whitewashed to protect the guilty. The she-witch was speeding

and ran a stop sign when she killed the boyfriend she was having a fight with.

With her family influence, she knew she did not have to flee the scene. She knew everything would be "taken care of."

[onenote]

73. and you know this how?

You sound sort of like my rushbot father in law who continues to proclaim that Mary Jo Kopechne was pregnant by Teddy and that fact was, to use his (and your) term: "whitewashed" by the authorities.

[Beacool]

74. I've read in the past that she didn't leave the scene and that she was sober.

She was just some 17 year old kid riding around with one of her friends and ran a Stop sign.

No comparison to the actions of a drunken 37 year old US senator making a wrong turn and going over the side of a dinky wooden bridge.

[HardWorkingDem]

71. Wow - Kind of bizarre......

For one thing, Laura Bush did not run for office and the last I read about her incident, it was a terrible accident. I believe she ran a stop sign and was t-boned.


Next, several of the examples used in the OP are allegations.


And does anyone else believe that this conspiracy angle gets the credibility of DU members anywhere?


Lastly, I find it quite believable that GWB, Cheney and Rumsfeld WILL carry the albatross of the Iraq War for the rest of their lives and that it will be the one item brought up when they pass.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

75. It was a terrible accident, and as T Wolf said in the post directly above yours:

"Police report has been whitewashed to protect the guilty. She was speeding and ran a stop sign."

It's not a matter of whether she ran for office or not. To me, that distinction is highly irrelevant to what I feel the original post is trying to establish. She was / is a public figure. She has a terrible incident in her past in which a man was killed as the result of her irresponsible behavior..."accident" or not...and she walked away without a trial. That's fact. Look it up.

It's about the fact that people make mistakes...often terrible mistakes...and sometimes they pay a price for them, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they die and are allowed to rest in peace, and other times the public holds a ritual burning of the corpse before it's cold.

If Laura Welch hadn't been Laura Welch, she would have faced vehicular manslaughter charges like any other citizen who was speeding and ran a stop sign.

But she was Laura Welch, and everything went away like magic.

I don't know if the Laura Bush story "gets the credibility of DU members anywhere"...I've seen posts on DU that are very supportive of Laura, the Bush daughters, and other members of the cabal. Granted, those posts are in small numbers, but every time a negative statement is made about the "family," someone steps up to say a few words in their defense. Freedom of speech, freedom of opinion.

[HardWorkingDem]

77. Who knows...

if she would have been charged back then regardless of who she was or was not.

To throw her into this mix is silly.

Frankly, (and as I addressed my like for Ted Kennedy in an earlier post), if a Republican had done what Teddy Kennedy did and the shoes were flipped, people here at DU would be going ballistic.

Joyce Carole Oates has a pretty powerful essay on redemption, scandal and tragedy. Here's a link to it...



http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/aug/27/edward-kennedy-usa


Yes, Kennedy did wonderful things and probably linked to his past and his strive to be a better person, so I ask, do people out there think he'd want this sort of thing to go on in his name?

[opihimoimoi]

76. Carter/Clinton still helping the Nation, building homes, dreams....Bushies jumping outta airplanes /

golf/fishing..

whad a diff

[Just-plain-Kathy]

79. I was thinking just the same thing. ...K&R

[femrap]

80. I saw that Fox 'news' clip of

Cheney yesterday....if you listened closely, the man is having trouble BREATHING!!!! Bummer.

Anyone else notice?

[bertman]

81. Thank you, Lerkfish. Please take a bow for an excellent post!! Recommend highly.

[defendandprotect]

82. Chappaquiddick may have been a Nixon planned event . . . ????

And I think we need more light on that subject as to the right wing hand in it.

When Nixon died, I noticed they weren't even mentioning Watergate!!!

[defendandprotect]

84. And, didn't know that about Jeb and New Orleans pumps -- !!

When Jeb Bush dies, I want all networks to bring up his selling of defective pumps to New Orleans.

[Turbineguy]

86. When any of them die.

I want it not to matter anymore. A non-event in a World recovered from their harm.

[Quasimodem]

87. I’m with Turbineguy.

I don’t want it to matter anymore when they die, because these things were brought up by every introductory speaker at every $100-a-plate rubber-chicken event at which they speak for the rest of their lives.

I want them to know that everybody knows, and to rub their noses in it.

[wicket]

91. BOOKMARKED.

[jeremyfive]

92. Good Post - More about Jeb Here in Florida

And please add that we can bring up Jeb Bush's ficticious felon's list (names of Democrats, not felons) here in Florida, and violation of voting rights, and how he passed out high positions to his cronies, who they themselves then had to resign for passing out high positions to cronies of their own. When Jeb went to one of the states with the lowest standards of child welfare to bring us their child welfare "leader" (who later was forced in shame to resign), it became apparent that there were no serious plans to improve things here in Florida. Just another money game among old cronies. . .

Let's for sure bring up Teri Schiavo when Jeb croaks--what a fiasco.

And let's definitely remember old girlfriend, the criminally indicted Katherine Harris, when Jeb signs off.

(Isn't it a wonder that there was never any serious exploration of Dubya's background--the cocaine and car crack-ups and draft dodge and AWOL status from the national guard? Money buys a lot of silence.)