http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x64027Very interesting and informative.
And do be aware that Congress is still not all that representative of the American people (70% of whom want this war ended now)--due largely, in my view, to the Diebold/ES&S 5% to 10% "thumb on the scales" for Bushites, warmongers and corporatists. The voters have to outvote the machines, in order to get decent representation. And almost nobody gets into Congress who is not, upfront, supportive of the war industry--a matter of money and economic reality.
I do, however--after reading NNNOLHI's post--think that something is GENUINELY happening as to ending this war. I don't think it's for a particularly good reason. I think it's because the war industry is threatened by popular revolt. So they have to get this "eyesore"--this bad advertisement for the "military-industry complex"--off the public's radar. But, whatever the reason, I do think withdrawal from Iraq is likely going to happen, and I don't think that the people who are insisting on that, are going to agree to bombing or invading Iran--unless we are all just victims of an enormous hoax, which cannot be ruled out, given past history.
People who are alarmed about the U.S. naval buildup in the Persian Gulf have not considered--that I know of--that it COULD be cover for a withdrawal. It is certainly reasonable to be very worried about that buildup--considering who's in charge--and a phony "Gulf of Tonkin" incident is always possible. But Bush and Cheney have almost no political credit left, with anybody, even their own party. The military despises them. The whole world despises them. And there are nuclear powerhouses, like China, with a big stake in Iranian oil, who could take a strike on Iran very ill, indeed. I think the Bush Junta plan to use Iraq as a stepping stone to Iran, and grab all Mideast oil, is dead, or near dead. Also, they have brought military action into DISCREDIT--and THAT is a threat to the military budget. Bush and Cheney are now a threat to the very corporations they have been larding with billions of dollars of our money.