Principal Shown Having Sex With Teacher On Video

[apnu]

Principal Shown Having Sex With Teacher On Video
DVD Distributed To Parents; Principal Resigns

CBS) LYNWOOD, Ill. A south suburban elementary school has been rocked by scandal after an X-rated DVD showing the principal and a teacher was leaked to parents.

As CBS 2's Mai Martinez reports, the video reportedly shows the principal, Leroy Coleman, in his office having sex with a science teacher, Janet Lofton, at Sandridge Elementary School, 2950 Glenwood-Dyer Rd. in Lynwood.

The DVD goes on for two hours. Another woman, also a teacher appears on the video as well.

The tape has left the school district administration many parents deeply concerned. Some parents reported that copies of the tape have been circulating for the past couple of days.

...

Parents of Sandridge School students agree. They say some students were aware of the alleged misconduct long before parents found out about it. They also say they think more should have been done to protect the students.

...

Izzo said Cook County sheriff's police are investigating the case, including how someone got access to a school office and planted a recording device. The school board is interested in having them prosecuted.

whole story at link: http://cbs2chicago.com/local/local_story_103092655.html

Other details: soccer moms march and yell, resignations of the people involved, everybody howling and pledging to 'investigate'. You know, the usual circus stuff.

Do you think the principle and teachers deserve to be run out on a rail 'for the children'?

Do you think the secret filming at a elementary school, is more disturbing than the sex act? Less? (keep in mind the article does not say it happened in front of the kids, so I assume they did this after hours)

Do you find it disturbing that someone made a two our sex tape then gave it out to all the parents? There by taking authority into their own hands and starting a witch hunt?

So, DU, what is your opinion? What crimes have been committed here and, of those crimes, which are more important than the others?

[CabalPowered]

1. I'm no legal expert but isn't this illegal eavesdropping

if none of the participants were aware of the camera?

[TransitJohn]

2. Is the tape on youtube yet?

I'd like to see it. :evilgrin:

[Parche]

7. tape

No but its probably on 'XTUBE' :rofl:

[TheCowsCameHome]

61. No. It was on his tube

[CatWoman]

130. bwahahahahahahaha

:rofl:

[Demeter]

3. I'd Make Some Wisecrack about SexEd here.....

and the President's Abstinence Program leaps to mind...disincentives and all that....

but I'm trying to be a good girl.



By the way, don't they pay the principal enough to rent a room? Or to hire one with a few brains?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

4. I think the principal and teacher ought to be embarassed.

...for getting caught.

The people who placed the hidden camera ought to be punished. A slap on the wrist seems fine if they were kids.

And the parents who are "outraged" about consenting adults having sex ought to be ashamed of themselves.

[KharmaTrain]

22. Trust Me, These People Feel Inches Tall Right Now

The story is all over the local media and everyone is talking about it. Lots of misinformation was running around as I kept hearing from people that the tape had been seen by some of the children and that's how the parents found out or got copies. It's still vague as to where the recording was done, who did it and how it got into parent's hands.

IRC, if this did happen on school property, I don't think entrapment can be used as a defense if the school district wants to press for dismisal or a lawsuit. I would think the standards of a "regular workplace" would apply where I've seen cases of termination due to hidden video as a valid reason for firing.

I don't think the outrage is about consenting adults as much as where it occured. I'd far prefer that if you're going to "stick it in the company ink", you do so somewhere other than in a school.

Cheers...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. And that strikes me as punishment enough.

It's the public that's "outraged" I think that should be more embarassed.

[apnu]

51. thanks for filling me in

I don't watch TV much, so I haven't seen the local news report about it until this one link. However, this article claims the tape shows them at the school. (could be a mistake on the reporter's part, you know how the media can be, fact checking isn't a strong suit).

[MADem]

64. No dismissal--the article said they quit already. NT

[KharmaTrain]

91. Thank You For The Info

I've been waiting for the afternoon newscasts to learn more...problem with the morning "news" programs are they sure can show me how to improve my sex life, but little news to be found.

:hi:

[Connie_Corleone]

5. Did the sex tape violate "community standards"?

I would have to see the tape in order to give a more informed opinion.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. I don't know.

Do people in this community have sex?

[Connie_Corleone]

28. Ask them. nt

[Straight Shooter]

6. It goes on for two hours? Can I have that principal's phone number, please?

:evilgrin:

[Marnieworld]

18. Being sent to the principal's office would mean a completely different thing

2 hours? My lord! :blush:

[AspenRose]

32. Hot For Teacher, indeed!

WOW

[KansDem]

104. I was just going to say I've spent less time on a term paper! (eom)

[ComerPerro]

123. LMAO

[AnneD]

8. Are you sure it's not an episode...

of the Young and Restless? :hide:

[ghostsofgiants]

48. It was an episode of The Simpsons, actually.

[AnneD]

118. Or

Mash, the movie. Pre dates the Simpsons.

[ComerPerro]

124. They were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me

[ghostsofgiants]

136. Sex Cauldron? I thought they closed that place down!

:D

[geardaddy]

9. No crime has been committed here.

Consenting adults.

Nothing to see. Move along folks.

[MADem]

19. I think there will be consequences. Odds are good there's a morals clause in the contract of both

principal and teacher. To say nothing of the misuse of school equipment!!!

[GreenPartyVoter]

10. I think it's wrong for teachers to be having sex at school, period. I do think the

video taping was not necessary, and the handing out of the DVD was wayyy over the top. The issue should have been brought to the superintendant's notice first, then the school board's if nothing was done.

[apnu]

13. Interesting... what then is your opinion of...

... sex in the workplace. Regardless of school property or not. Say Lawyers getting it on after hours. Does your opinion change if they were in a place normally populated by adults only?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. If having sex in school after the kids are gone is bad...

Is it bad to have sex at home when the kids are off at school?

[GreenPartyVoter]

31. No, and for the record a quickie in the bathroom when they ARE home is ok. But what if

the two educators we are talking about aren't married to each other? What if the kids know and care about the spouse who is being cheated on? That's a heavy emotional load to dump on them and certainly does nothing to improve their learning about a healthy and loving sex life does it?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

50. You mean pre-marital sex is less moral than marital sex?

What is this, the Christian Coalition?

[GreenPartyVoter]

74. Pre-marital sex? When did we start talking about that?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

75. "But what if the two educators... weren't married to each other?"

Oh my odds and bodkins! People having sex without being married to each other?!

*swoons*

[GreenPartyVoter]

82. You missed the rest of my post back there.. "What if the kids know and care about the spouse who is

being cheated on? That's a heavy emotional load to dump on them and certainly does nothing to improve their learning about a healthy and loving sex life does it?"

I think I made it very clear that it was the fact they were having sex on the school grounds, NOT that they were having sex at all, that bothered me. I also made it very clear as to why I felt that it would not be beneficial for kids to see that.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

85. Why stop at extramarital affairs?

If you're day dreaming about what kind of sex these people may or may not have been having, why not include some kinky S&M or BM sex?

[GreenPartyVoter]

87. Why is it so important to you that

kids are allowed to watch teachers having sex in school?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

88. When did you stop beating your wife?

"Why is it so important to you that kids are allowed to watch teachers having sex in school?"

What the fuck are you talking about?

[GreenPartyVoter]

89. Every single reply from you has been of that flavor, I was just taking cues from you.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

92. No, every single reply from me...

has been of the flavor "what the fuck are you talking about?"

What's with this nonsense what-if? stuff about pre-marital sex and extra-marital affairs?

[GreenPartyVoter]

93. So your position (pardon the pun) is that it is ok if teachers have sex at school?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

94. My position is...

it's no big deal if people have sex at their workplace. It ain't great, but it's not really anybody else's business.

If anybody should be ashamed, it's people who point fingers and cast stones.

[GreenPartyVoter]

95. I agree with the exception of daycares and schools etc. I just don't think it's right to

have sex where _other_ people's little kids can walk in on them.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

96. And every parent who's ever lived...

has had sex where little kids could have possibly walked in on them.

This is exactly my point about pointing fingers. It's hypocritical.

[GreenPartyVoter]

98. Sure. Their OWN kids. That is the difference here. Are you really that comfortable with

your young children walking in on other adults having sex? That really wouldn't bother you at all?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

100. I think you're grasping at straws.

If a kid stays over for a slumber party, and then walks in on his friend's parents having sex is that somehow some shockingly major difference?

[GreenPartyVoter]

110. Screw it. I wrote and answer and it got eaten by the DU error bug. Long story short

I am not comfortable with the scenario and that's just how I feel about it, though I appreciate you giving me some points to ponder, particularly the last one.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

112. OK.

And to answer your question...

If my kids were going to accidently walk in on two people having sex, I'd much rather have it be two other people than me and my wife.

:rofl:

[GreenPartyVoter]

114. LOL

[INDIA]

127. As long as they're attractive, of course. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

26. Yes, I feel differently about places not populated by children. But you would

be surprised how many kids come running up to school after hours to get the homework/baseball glove/sneakers etc they forgot to bring home. I don't think they need to see Mr. Smith and Miss Jones banging each other on one of the lunch room tables is all.

[apnu]

41. good point.

thanks for filling me in on your opinion.

[GreenPartyVoter]

43. No prob. I come from a family of educators and have had to take my own kids

to school after hours for forgotten things. :)

[MADem]

62. Indeed. I have a relative who worked in school administration, who has the same view.

To say nothing of the poor hapless schmuck who "missed the late bus" and comes crying to the office wanting to use the phone to get Ma or Pa to come fetch them.

[MADem]

34. The issue is public versus private venues.

You don't go fucking in taxpayer funded and maintained buildings. Ya just don't. That's really where the issue was with Monica, and with Newt. You don't do your private fucking on the public dime, using the public facilities.

Now, if you want to wave your weenie all day in a private law office, you just go on ahead, assuming you don't have a morals clause in your workplace contract. But don't be doing it in the office of the attorney general.

[valerief]

11. Now that's what I call Sex Education! But the poor teachers.

I wonder who the perverted J. Edgar Hoover was.

[Catherine Vincent]

14. I'd like to see this tape!

"The Principal and Two Teachers Getting It On"

:evilgrin:

[ComerPerro]

125. I agree, I need to be able to form an educated opinion

no pun intended

[Yavin4]

15. When You Don't Pay Educators A Professional Wage

then you don't attract professionals to the positions. IOW, you get what you pay for.

[Kerrytravelers]

78. Many teachers and administrators are quite professional.

The pay isn't what attracts us. It is the passion for education. A few bad apples doesn't ruin the whole barrel.

[Yavin4]

119. I'm Speaking In More General Terms

Of course, there are committed educational professionals. However, the bad apples are a higher percentage.

[Kerrytravelers]

131. I wouldn't say the bad apples are a higher percent. They do, however, attract the most attention.

[MADem]

16. The "crime" is incredibly poor judgment. The secondary crime is

misuse of school facilities. Then, according to the principal's contract, he may have a morality clause that he's violated. I'll bet there is one in there.

I can't imagine anyone having an expectation of privacy in a public building, in a location other than, say, the rest rooms, despite the police's stated desire to get the person who planted the recording device.

Ask yourself this question--cui bono? Who would want to expose that whole business?

The wife of the principal? The husband of his paramour? Someone else the principal had been schtupping?

When they shake the tree and the person responsible falls out, I will bet it isn't someone from the Morality Police Force, it will be someone from the Jealousy Police Force that will be determined to be responsible....

[RaleighNCDUer]

40. My thoughts exactly. nt

[apnu]

44. This is an interesting track...

... but what about sneaking a camera onto school grounds?

What about unauthorized and unknown surveillance?

What are your thoughts on that?

[MADem]

53. No expectation of privacy in a public building--AFAIK.

If there's local ordinances against taping people in certain buildings, that is a horse of a different color. But said horse, given the distribution of the DVDs, is already out of the barn.

It's also important to know how the 'surveillance' took place. WAS it a planted camera? Or was it a little kid sneaking up to the windowed office, and holding up a camera to get hours of jerky footage, five or ten minutes at a time? Or was it MRS. Principal, who gave her husband a computer camera so he could say hi to his kids, or some such, and figured out a way to activate it remotely and record what was going on in the office?

The story isn't clear, really.

Funny, there IS a prohibition about filming without a Cap Police permit in the halls of Congress, but more than a few of our members here had no problem with the Cameraphone coverage of Dave Obey, who so many were ready to call a rightwing traitor, not knowing his history or record.

[Goblinmonger]

115. There are states

that are two-party states as to the taping of conversations. You can't tape someone without their permission, in other words. Of course, this is just in relation to admissibility in court and not to whether it is illegal.

[jean]

52. or, the the principal could have been taping his own office and someone

else took the opportunity to make copies.

[MADem]

56. That's a distinct possibility. It's probably a good idea to have tape to protect yourself

against charges of untoward touching and so forth. The horny baaastid probably just forgot to turn the machine off before he did his thing!

[TheCowsCameHome]

77. A condom would be better protection than tape.

I mean, well you know...........

[MADem]

80. Well, maybe both, eh? NT

[lies and propaganda]

20. 'protect the students'

Yes this is some crazy shit, but i love how it always goes back to protect the children. We need them safe and sound, not knowing about penises or vaginas so they can be nice and clueless when were ready to ship em off to war.

[Cirque du So-What]

21. Uncovered: a bit of hypocrisy on the principal's part

Principal sees red over student's 'do
Chicago Sun-Times, Jan 11, 2007 by Stefano Esposito


Some might consider Sandridge School Principal Leroy Coleman a bit old-school.

The 50-something educator doesn't approve of kids holding hands in the hallways or "romancing."

MOM SIDES WITH DAUGHTER

And when seventh-grader Holli Boam arrived Wednesday with cranberry-red streaks in her hair, Coleman sent her home to wash it out. The principal at the Chicago Heights school was taken aback Wednesday when he learned that Holli and her mom weren't going to comply.

NO 'ROMANCING' EITHER

more...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20070111/ai_n17134000

[Yavin4]

29. He's 50 and He Had Sex for 2 Hours

I have to give him some credit there.

[Cirque du So-What]

33. Impressive though that may be...

I couldn't pass up the irony of the principal lecturing students on public displays of affection while taking care of business behind his office door.

[MADem]

36. The wording isn't clear. There were TWO women on the tape.

It could well have been several 'interludes' all strung together in a 'greatest hits' fashion. I don't think there were two women at the SAME time, else the story would have surely mentioned that salacious detail.

[MADem]

30. HA!!! The only ROMANCING will be done by the Principal, eh?

What a load of shit!!!

He's 'old school' all right--he likes to screw his subordinates. If that's not 'old school' I don't know what is!!!!

How nice that he got his, dare I say, ass handed to him.

[Yavin4]

35. As Someone Who's Turning 43 This Year

This man is an inspiration. Yes, he's disgusting, but an inspiration nonetheless.

[MADem]

37. Not necessarily. See my post upthread. It could be a compilation tape. NT

[Canuckistanian]

103. Or extreme slow-motion n/t

[frogcycle]

129. or just perseverance

my second favorite movie line (Jack Nicholson in "Goin South")

I could do this ALLL night long!


It's like a marathon - you just have to pace yourself!

:)

[onethatcares]

135. two hours,

isn't that the definition of Jewish foreplay? Two hours of begging? Now don't flame me, it's an old joke

[apnu]

45. great catch!

Bravo!

[guitar man]

23. this is so refreshing

teachers and principals having sex with each other instead of the kids, what a concept. :applause:

[Mandate My Ass]

76. LOL

:thumbsup:

In response to the topic of this thread, I hope they... get off. :evilgrin:

[Uben]

24. Get a copy on Ebay for $49.95

Or write me at gwbconsult.com










I am kidding of course! But I just had to get the gwbconsult in there somewhere! (he's the one with the gov. surplus laptops for sale on Ebay)

[TahitiNut]

27. (Hmmm..) I guess the Audio Visual Club in that school is striking back.

Nerds, indeed!

:silly:

[jakem]

38. Would really need to see it to give a qualified response.... nt

[lutefisk]

39. Gives new meaning to "teacher inservice" training...n/t

[donsu]

42. they were stupid to have sex on school property and they were

stupid enough that the students knew they were having sex before the taped event happened.

fire them all

[ChairmanAgnostic]

68. taping it is far more stupid than simply enjoying sex.

how the HELL did copies get out?

[TheCowsCameHome]

46. Oooooh. A science project gone amok.

Make them stay after school for a week.

[proud2BlibKansan]

47. How did this get taped?

Was it a planted camera or did the couple film themselves?

[apnu]

49. camera was planted by parties unknown

and distributed to parents by parties unknown.

Bizzare huh?

[supernova]

54. Which means it wasn't the first episode

Whoever set up the cameras knew about the trysts for a while.

[apnu]

59. yes that is suggested. Article also says, parents knew the kids knew.

weird.

[SacredCow]

55. Now, with picture-goodness.....

but it's not all that interesting...


http://www.wcsh6.com/news/watercooler/article.aspx?storyid=57677

[MADem]

58. There's some interest in there......

"Where is she supposed to be?" asked parent Kim Grivakis. "We have tons of needy children. But no, she'd rather be with the principal bumping and grinding."

The tape was allegedly shot in the principal's office during the day and evening on five dates ranging from late December to early March.

"How can I sit at home knowing my kids are at school when this is going on?" asked parent April Lopez.

[apnu]

63. That quote is escpecially silly when you look at the time stamp on that picture

January 11th, 2007 at 5:52PM.

It seems that few elementary school students would have been at the school at that time. even less, in the principal's office.

[MADem]

67. Uh, read the articles. It's not a two hour, single event tape. It's several interludes

involving TWO women. It takes place during the day AND in the evening, per the reports.

Don't take one still shot out of two hours of footage and try to use it to prove anything.

[apnu]

71. I did, merly commenting on the juxiposition of the picture and the quotes

I know the span to which the events took place. I'm not trying to prove anything at all. Just looking for people's reactions to this story.

[MADem]

79. Well, that was the only shot that came with the article--probably the only one that had clothes on

and didn't reveal more than a PG audience could handle.

[Clark2008]

133. Why does the teacher look like she has on a burka?

And the principal looks like he's wearing an orange jailhouse suit.

Was this taken an Abu-Grahib?

[gatorboy]

57. She BLINDED him with SCIENCE!!!!

Duh nuh Nuuuuuuuhhhh NUH!

SCIENCE!

[MADem]

60. So that's what that song means! I never knew they called it "science!" NT

[gatorboy]

73. Well, on occasion, experimentation is required. :P n/t

[SacredCow]

65. Removed...

Duplicate

[seabeyond]

66. i dont care about them, as adults, having sex in a closed room. person who handed out video

is the one that should get it. i dont care if two adults have sex in a room away from eyes, even in a school. doesnt bother me at all. it is the person that felt it necessary to make it public and inappropriately to kids that bothers me.

[jollyreaper2112]

72. well

It is a bit irresponsible to be doing it in a school setting. You can see how quickly the rumors spread despite their "caution." It's one thing if they're doing their bit in a private home without anyone at school to know.

[mainegreen]

81. One article I read said the police are going to go after the filmer as well.

As they committed perhaps the worse crime.

[JNelson6563]

69. Stone 'em! It's the biblical thing to do!

:patriot:

[Evoman]

70. Fuck the Puritans.

No seriously...they need to get fucking laid. I can't understand the sort of person who is outraged at the fact that two adults are having consensual sex AFTER the kids are gone from school. I want to hit the guy who says "I think they should more than just resign..they should be stripped of their licenses" over the head with a big ass science book.

These people are ridiculous. If I was pressed to find a problem here, it is solely that a person in a position of power should be very careful having sex with someone under him (no pun intended). But the uptight prudes who find this to be a problem need to go get themselves laid.

[joe_sixpack]

83. Where do you see prudishness?

I read the comments of those who thought negatively of this incident and I don't recall anyone citing their reason as people shouldn't get laid. I hearken back to the day when good ole boys used to high five the male boss who told how he was slippin it to some "broad" who worked for him. The boss himself thought it was okay, because it was consensual in his mind. Of course back in those non progressive days before sexual harassment, no one really cared what pressures might have led the female to comply. Was there a promotion or bonus forthcoming? Threats of layoffs? performance reports? Doesn't really matter, let's just congratulate the dude in power for his prowess.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

101. I think the whole...

"oh my god! What if they weren't married" thing strikes me as rather prudish.

:shrug:

[Greyhound]

109. How about your assumption that there was some coercion involved?

Teachers spend an inordinate amount of time at work during the school year, especially now that they have to deal with the oppressive NCLB disaster. I find it hard to imagine that this is any body's business and the only "bad thing" here is the covert video and it's subsequent distribution, that I think is, or should be, a crime.

When did it become so terrible for a couple of co-workers to take a sex break, consensually after hours? Hell, they didn't use any supplies and their salaried so it didn't even cost the district anything.

[joe_sixpack]

117. You're right

obviously I can't assume there was coercion anymore than you can assume it's just two equals relieving a little stress caused by a failed government policy. What constitutes coercion can be a very subtle and personal thing. Even when a woman agrees to sex with a superior, she isn't always forthcoming about the reasons for doing so. Sexual harassment went on for so many years before becoming a legitimate issue precisely because women were afraid to say no. And I'm even one to admit that some accusations of harassment get blown out of proportion and go too far. I mean it's ridiculous if a man gets accused because he compliments some one on their dress or tells a slightly off color joke. So, I guess I can gravitate to your side on this one. I'll just raise my fist and shout out "way to go guy, for gettin some"
P.S. My hunch is that he was filming it himself.

[Greyhound]

132. My primary point was that this was nobody's business. Until somebody

directly involved in the situation complains, there is no problem.

Illinois is one of the more backward "liberal" states, so of course the hue and cry will go out and the righteous enforcers of morality will ruin two people's lives and that will be the end of it as far as the voyeuristic sheeple are concerned.

I feel very sorry for the poor people that thought they could live their own lives in some privacy. Well, I've wasted as many minutes of my life on this non-issue as I'm willing.

[Evoman]

116. I'm talking about the people IN THE STORY (not so much DUers).

Like I have clearly said, the boss-worker dyamic actually is the only potential problem I find here. But if you've noticed, a lot of the people are suggesting both of them should be fired. These people don't actually care about the potential sexual harrasment (though to be honest, it was never mentioned in the story), they care that people had....omg....sex. Sex!!!! In a building where children have been!!!! OH LORDY ME!!!

[Kerrytravelers]

84. I once had a very attractive principal, but I had no desire to bang him.

He had also been my 5th grade teacher!

Anyway, in this case, I think the videotape was an act of revenge. Reporting this to the Superintendent would be enough to get them fired, at least in the districts I have worked in. I can not imagine the revenge necessary to make a tape and distribute it. What was the purpose? It served only to humiliate, which is a characteristic of revenge.

And why are the parents protesting? What is there to protest? The "participants" are gone. The bigger deal the parents make out of this, the more the kids will be interested. Move on, already! :eyes:

[Midlodemocrat]

86. Sorry. It's wrong for a person in authority to have sex with a subordinate

especially in a situation like a school. We had the EXACT same situation here, except that both parties were married to others and the assistant principal finally got his ass handed to him, mostly when I contacted the school board.

When a person carries on an affair like this with a subordinate, it's unsettling and what happened at my daughter's school is that the extremely unethical assistant principal was discussing other teachers and their performances with his paramour.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

99. Sorry.

But it's wrong to say an employee can't consent to have sex with a higher authority.

Now, if the employee wanted to press sexual harassment charges because it wasn't consensual, that's an entirely different situation. But as far as we know we're dealing with two consensual adults.

[Midlodemocrat]

102. In most companies even consenting sex with your higher up will

get you fired. and him/her as well. It's wrong. It is an abuse of power and gives an unfair advantage to one employee over the rest.

Consenting adults aside, this is the reason most companies frown on this kind of thing. One or both of them should have either held off until school was out, or transferred.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

105. What's wrong is firing people for consensual sex.

Yes, the companies are protecting themselves from potential sexual harassment suit.

But if a principal and a teacher go out to a bar for a few drinks after work to unwind, and later end up having sex, there's nothing wrong with that.

Sure, if the principal hits on the teacher, and the teacher feels offended or coerced, then the principal's done something wrong. But that's up to the teacher to decide, not you or anybody else.

"One or both of them should have either held off until school was out, or transferred."

Well, now you've gone and contradicted yourself by saying it'd be fine if the kids had left for the summer. It's apparently not about authority relationships, it's about whether or not kids are present.

[Midlodemocrat]

108. Don't put words in my mouth. If the kids aren't there, then the

teacher isn't either.

It's about authority abuse. I've seen it. I've lived it. It sucks.

Frankly, even though the assistant principal here at my daughter's school was beyond a total pig and even has a federal lawsuit pending against him for ADA violations, the ONLY thing that got him canned was his relationship with a teacher, an employee.

Apparently, it was a total violation of the code of ethics for the county. And, I'm delighted to have been the one to pull the plug on this asshole. I only wish I'd done it sooner.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

111. If the kids aren't there, the teacher isn't either?!

My goodness.

:rofl:

"Frankly, even though the assistant principal here at my daughter's school was beyond a total pig and even has a federal lawsuit pending against him for ADA violations, the ONLY thing that got him canned was his relationship with a teacher, an employee."

Yes, yes, you've got lots of interesting stories.

[Midlodemocrat]

113. As in summer vacation?

Or are you just being dense for the sake of it?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

120. I heard you the first time.

Apparently, a principal's no longer the teacher's superior when the kids are out for summer, or something?

:shrug:

[Midlodemocrat]

134. Well, it's kind of hard to be supervising someone who isn't

in the building with you, now isn't it?

Do you understand how schools work?

:shrug:

[Casper Alabaster]

90. Not necessarily a crime so far,

and this thread is worthless w/o pics! (of over 21 adults!):crazy:

[jaysunb]

97. The " pussy police " are everywhere.....

:evilfrown:

[seabeyond]

106. so are the dick assholes.... n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

107. "If I had known that this sort of thing was frowned upon...."

The Principal

[bullwinkle428]

122. "The Timeless Art of Seduction"...an instant classic!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[semillama]

121. SEYMOUR!!!

[ComerPerro]

126. Skinner says: No sex threads!

[MonkeyFunk]

128. wow

all we ever got was film-strips. :mad:

[Sequoia]

137. Principal Skinner and Mrs. Crabapple?