This week's phrase " The straw that broke the camel's back"

[hedgehog]

I don't doubt that many others before him have been as vulgur, racist and hateful towards women as Imus. It was his misfortune to be the straw that broke the camel's back. That's not to excuse everyone else including Bennet, Limbaugh and a multitude of rappers. It's just to note that he is the one to take the blame for all of them. The real question is whether it's back to business as normal or whether people in general have had enough of this language.

It's not for the government ot censor language, but no advertiser is required to support it. If you buy music featuring hateful lyrics, it's up to you to decide if you want to continue supporting artists who use those words.

[Demeter]

1. If This Is a Trend, and More Creeps Get Canned

then I'll believe that the camel's back is broken.

[hedgehog]

2. Too bad for the camel, but I hope his back is in bad shape!

[MadMaddie]

3. This is true...

I also believe that Imus picked the wrong time and the wrong place in the mood of this country....

As * numbers continue to drop, Americans intolerance of the war mongering, and the hate speech has risen.....The Goldwater Republicans have woken from their slumber and realize that they could be victims of this very administration that they helped to give power to...

You are right about choice...after all it is America and America is about choice...personally I choose not to purchase many artists that produce that type of music...

But everyone is complaining about how it impacts the young kids and teens etc....and I say why aren't the parents cancelling their cable? Why aren't they monitoring what their children are listening too...? Just sayin...

[Lint Head]

4. Racists and bigots spend money too.

They will continue to buy anything that validates their hatred.:dem:

[hedgehog]

5. But how many people buy the music and listen to the shock jocks

are themselves appalled to be labeled racists for their support? I think a lot of people didn't want to label Imus a racist because they like to listen to him; and if he's a racist, then .....

[Karenina]

9. WHO promotes commercial rap?

Just asking. :shrug:

[hedgehog]

10. Just because someone promotes it doesn't mean that people have to buy it.

[Karenina]

11. Guess WHO buys most of it?

;-)

[hedgehog]

12. I'm guessing white teenagers?

[Karenina]

13. And you'd be guessing correctly.

Wonder why? :freak:

[alcibiades_mystery]

6. "Why did one straw break the camels back? Here's the secret:

The million other straws underneath it. It's all mathematics."
-Mos Def, Mathematics

Booka-booka-booka-booka-booka-booka
Ha hah
You know the deal
It's just me, dog
Beats by Su-Primo for all of my people, negroes and latinos
and even the gringos
Yo, check it

One for Charlie Hustle, two for Steady Rock
Three for the fourth comin live future shock
It's five dimensions, six senses
Seven firmaments of heaven to hell
8 Million Stories to tell
Nine planets faithfully keep in orbit
with the probable tenth, the universe expands length
The body of my text possess extra strength
Power-liftin powerless up, out of this, towerin inferno
My ink so hot it burn through the journal
I'm blacker than midnight on Broadway and Myrtle
Hip-Hop past all your tall social hurdles
like the nationwide projects, prison-industry complex
Working class poor better keep your alarm set
Streets too loud to ever hear freedom ring
Say evacuate your sleep, it's dangerous to dream
for cha-ching cats get they - CHA-POW! - you dead now
Killin fields need blood to graze the cash cow
It's a numbers game, but shit don't add up somehow
Like I got, sixteen to thirty-two bars to rock it
but only 15% of profits, ever see my pockets like
sixty-nine billion in the last twenty years
spent on national defense but folks still live in fear like
nearly half of America's largest cities is one-quarter black
That's why they gave Ricky Ross all the crack
Sixteen ounces to a pound, twenty more to a key
A five minute sentence hearing and you're no longer free
40% of Americans own a cell phone
so they can hear everything that you say when you ain't home
I guess Michael Jackson was right, "You Are Not Alone"
Rock your hardhat, black, cause you in the Terrordome
full of hard niggaz, large niggaz, dice tumblers
Young teens in prison greens facin life numbers
Crack mothers, crack babies and AIDS patients
Young bloods can't spell but they could rock you in PlayStation
This new math is whippin motherfuckers ass
You wanna know how to rhyme you better learn how to add
It's mathematics

Chorus: scratched by DJ Premier (repeat 2X)

"The Mighty Mos Def.."
"It's simple mathematics" -> Fat Joe
"Check it out!"
"I revolve around science.."
"What are we talking about here?"

.. "Do your math" -> Erykah Badu (2X) ..
.. "One.. t-t-two.. three, four" -> James Brown ..
.. "What are we talking about here?" ..


Yo, it's one universal law but two sides to every story
Three strikes and you be in for life, mandatory
Four MC's murdered in the last four years
I ain't tryin to be the fifth one, the millennium is here
Yo it's 6 Million Ways to Die, from the seven deadly thrills
Eight year olds gettin found with .9 mils
It's 10 P.M., where your seeds at? What's the deal
He on the hill puffin krill to keep they belly filled
Light in the ass with heavy steel, sights on the pretty shit in life
Young soldiers tryin to earn they next stripe
When the average minimum wage is $5.15
You best believe you gotta find a new grind to get cream
The white unemployment rate, is nearly more than triple for black
so frontliners got they gun in your back
Bubblin crack, jewel theft and robbery to combat poverty
and end up in the global jail economy
Stiffer stipulations attached to each sentence
Budget cutbacks but increased police presence
And even if you get out of prison still livin
join the other five million under state supervision
This is business, no faces -- just lines and statistics
from your phone, your zip code, to S-S-I digits
The system break man, child, and women into figures
Two columns for who is, and who ain't niggaz
Numbers is hard to feel and they never have feelings
but you push too hard, even numbers got limits
Why did one straw break the camel's back? Here's the secret:
the million other straws underneath it - it's all mathematics

[moondust]

7. Exactly.

If the crusade does not reach beyond Imus then I think one can say he was unfairly singled out. I'll give the jury a year to decide.

[moondust]

8. .

Make that six months.