Gore's 'Truth' given cold reception in Seattle- Father gets schools to demand balance on global....

[pinniped]

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/01/26/MNGVLNPGM61.DTL

Gore's 'Truth' given cold reception in Seattle
Father gets schools to demand balance on global warming

Blaine Harden, Washington Post

Friday, January 26, 2007

(01-26) 04:00 PST Federal Way, Wash. -- Frosty Hardison is neither impressed nor surprised that "An Inconvenient Truth," the global warming movie narrated by former Vice President Al Gore, received an Oscar nomination this week for best documentary.

"Liberal left is all over Hollywood," he grumbled after the nomination was announced.
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"No you will not teach or show that propagandist Al Gore video to my child, blaming our nation -- the greatest nation ever to exist on this planet -- for global warming," Hardison wrote in an e-mail to the Federal Way School Board.

The 43-year-old computer consultant is an evangelical Christian who says he believes that a warming planet is "one of the signs" of Jesus Christ's imminent return for Judgment Day.
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Hey, where the F is his evidence of Jesus' impending return????

Frankly, I'm surprised this moran doesn't home school his child.

[WindRavenX]

1. yes, global warming is just another liberal lie

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

There is no "opposing" view on global warming, unless you are a complete nitwit with your head in the sand.

IDIOTS.

[Jackpine Radical]

2. Father gets schools to demand balance on round-earth theory,

Next week he plans to campaign against Einsteinian relativism.

[WCGreen]

3. Put the kid in a Religious school then.....

Don't make everyone a loser just because you are....

[digno dave]

37. That's what he's trying to do

only the religious school he wants him in happens to be the public school system.

[WCGreen]

40. That's what sucks....

Well, they could show a lt behind movie for laughs.....

[donco6]

4. Balance? What the hell?

If someone says the sky is blue, do we have to give time for opposing views?

This shit has just gone too far.

[FiveGoodMen]

10. The truth has to be balanced with a lie. That's fair isn't it?

[donco6]

11. It really is coming to that, isn't it?

It seems they can't report on ANYTHING without creating some "other point of view" no matter how idiotic it is.

[FiveGoodMen]

15. People are so easily sidetracked.

The process of presenting opposing opinions seems fair, but only when they are opinions.

Then everyone gets used to the point-counterpoint rhythm and fails to notice when they cross the line into countering reality with lies.

"Everyone's entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts."

[katsy]

5. And the whole city of Seattle rolled over for this bs? nt

[Rose Siding]

8. Not at all. The ban was lifted on Tuesday-

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The ban, which the school board says was merely a "moratorium," was lifted Tuesday night, subject to rigorous conditions. Still, the action has appalled the film's producers and triggered a ferocious national backlash.

Members of the school board say they have been bombarded by thousands of e-mails and phone calls, many of them hurtful and obscene, accusing them of scientific ignorance, pandering to religion, and imposing prior restraint on free speech.

[katsy]

9. Thanks.

I just can't believe the ban in the first place.

[lligrd]

14. Do They Still Have To "Balance" It?

Are they still being forced to give the ignorant time to repudiate the facts? If not, do you have a link? I find this entire episode outrageous.

[Cha]

20. BooFuckingHoo!

I doubt if the response was as "obscene" as the religiousterrorists' response to science and logic.

[pfitz59]

35. Lying headline....

Federal Way is a 'burb south of Seattle...Closer to Tacoma!

[chknltl]

39. Hey now, don't go sticken Federal Way with Tacoma....

Y'all stole our mountain, (Mt Tacoma or Tahoma is better known as Mt.Rainier thanks to you guys), and now you are trying to foist Federal Way off on us? Seattle and Federal Way are in the same county while Tacoma is not. Tacoma is doing just fine Seattle... so go ahead, y'all just keep Federal Way...it's all yours, lock stock and Olive Garden!
chknltl in Tacoma ;)

[MrSlayer]

6. More bullshit from the religiously insane.

I figure the guy would at least have a scientific counter argument but instead it's all this superstitious nonsense. His opinion should be discarded out of hand because of the utter lack of reasoning behind it.

[LisaM]

7. Federal Way, NOT Seattle

Federal Way is out by the airport. Not exactly an intellectual or academic hotbed.

[Quantess]

51. Federal Way is a suburb of Tacoma.

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

12. Regarding This Imminent Return Of J.C.

There is something truly morbid about the fact that supposedly everything on this planet is going to fall apart, and go to shit, before we get to see this so-called "return" and judgement day.

So, after WW III, after the Middle East countries have destroyed each other, and the rest of the world has become involved, and destroyed themselves too. After we've managed to destroy the infrastructure of the planet itself. After global warming has rendered the planet unsuitable for human life.

THEN.....AND ONLY THEN......the big J.C. will make his triumphant return.

And what if we're wrong, and the planet just dies and the human race along with it. What then? Who will be left to say...."Ooops. Guess we were wrong."

[VegasWolf]

17. That is the MOST wonderful thing about religion, it comes with no warranty. If you pray

to god (put your favorite god or gods name(s) here) that your wife doesn't die from cancer, and she does anyway, well, it's "God works in mysterious ways!" Religion is the greatest sales product of all time, it makes you feel good when you buy it, it makes you feel bad if you don't( it tries to scare the shit out of you that you are going to hell), and it comes with absolutely no warranty. Really and truthfully religion is THE greatest sales product in history.

[Barrett808]

47. But the Church of SubGenius offers eternal salvation or TRIPLE your money back

That's a guarantee you can take to your grave!

http://www.subgenius.com

[sakabatou]

13. .

[jamesinca]

16. The second coming is going to happen when planned

Not when we as humans try to create the conditions. It also talks about trying to guess the day that it will happen, it says don't do it. This idiot is going to be one of those that are left behind because of his bad theology. Jim Wallis talks about this kind of bad theology in his book Gods politics: Why the right gets it wrong, and the left doesn't get it.

[Bill McBlueState]

48. not about good theology or bad theology

Whether Jim Wallis or anyone else thinks the theology is good or bad isn't the point. The point is that nobody should be teaching theology in the public schools. Everything works better when we stick to reality-based instruction, teaching only what the data support.

[xchrom]

18. there is no bottoming out for these nuts.

and this is just further evidence that we cannot live together.

[Cha]

19. Obviously can't think for

himself..has to have lush limpbawls doin' it for him.

[hashibabba]

21. Well, fine, keep your kid home that day and leave the rest

of the world alone. Christians have been saying since the days immediately following Christ that the end days are *here now*. He may have to wait another 2,000 years or longer!

I don't understand why some very conservative Christians can't understand science at all. I don't happen to feel like it contradicts with my beliefs at all. So all the scientists tell you about climate change and you just decide its not so? WTF?

[noahmijo]

30. Theocratic based religions cannot allow alternate views it's the nature

What the book says is truth. WHAT THE BOOK SAYS IS TRUTH THERE IS NO ARGUING WITH THE BOOK. THE BOOK IS THE WORD. THE WORD. DON'T QUESTION THE BOOK.

Science is a threat to the people who hold the above beliefs. It involves research, fact finding, worse independent thought.

You throw these items into the mix and all of a sudden you start to question what was supposed to be undisputed beliefs designed to control you-which is why fear is the biggest weapon they have and obviously it has worked well for them for some time.

[2Design]

22. this is the only problem with public schools - these brainless people

have dumbed down the curriculum so much it is boring and our kids are missing so much in life -
the only reason the world is going to end is BFEE and the rapture group are trying to hasten it. like johnstown and hells gate and waco they are all wacko

[Megahurtz]

23. Just Another "Born Again" Faux-Christian FundaMENTAList Freak

:crazy: These people are nothing but Trouble-Makers and Shit-Disturbers.

The truth hurts, eh Frosty?

[sakabatou]

24. Hmmm... science or religion...

Give me science any day.

[superconnected]

25. Federal way is not Seattle. They are about 20 miles from each other.

Liberal Seattle has a few bush supporters but not many.

The rural areas are overcrowed with Bush supporters. I think it works like this - the further from the big city and into the sticks you get, the more red it gets.

[against all enemies]

26. Can't wait for the lesson on the Grand Canyon.

[goforit]

27. Who put this ass incharge? WTF is happenning to Seattle?

[Zhade]

28. "the greatest nation ever to exist on this planet" - WOW, is he delusional.

I can think of some better countries that exist NOW, dipshit!

[mitchum]

29. Obviously an asshole who likes to pick and choose his science

Computer consultant? But they didn't have computers back in the days of Jaysus and the dinosaurs.
May he soon join his precious lord

[truthisfreedom]

31. I say let these idiots expose their lunacy and ignorance. The only way to rid ourselves of these

nutjobs is to expose, identify, and marginalize each and every one of the activist weirdos.

[Thor_MN]

32. Have Insomina? Read his resume.... Has his long term contact info

http://www.geocities.com/f_Hardison/resume.doc

This guy is a buzzword bore. My read of his resume is that he knows just enough to be able to bullshit/bore non-technical people into thinking he knows what he is talking about. He sound's like the kind of person who thinks they are smart, knows everything necessary and doesn't mind telling anyone who will listen about it. Claims 9 years of college but hasn't completed his Bachelor's despite his high energy, motivational, inspirational self starter soft skills and old fashioned work ethic. He has "recently read" many books, including:


The World is Flat in 2006
Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus in 1996
What your father didn’t know and your Mother couldn’t tell you in 1996
Building Electrician Principles in 1995
Refrigeration Engineering in 1995
Electrical Appliance repair in 1995

Undoubtedly the manager from hell that you never want hired into your department. I wonder how many people have quit their jobs to get away from him.

Apparently plagued with annoying Powerpoint presentations (by guess who?) during comment periods, his city council has considered banning Powerpoint at meetings....
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/national/national.php?story=190762

[pinniped]

46. It's official, he's a member of the stupid committee.

From his resume:

Federal Way Festival Days 30th District Republican booth

[Lisa]

33. so he also believes it's one of the signs of the Second Coming?

Has he considered that Jesus might be really, really upset that we are letting such a thing happen? After all, it's already been proven that the poorest people in the world will be hardest hit by all the negative consequences of global warming ... and Jesus had a lot to say about poverty and inequity issues.

There was a wonderful cartoon posted a while back by a churchgoing DUer, which showed Jesus looking at a devasted environment and saying "I'm not taking anyone anywhere unless you clean this up right now!"

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

34. Sorry for not seeing this film, but

Did Al Gore say this?

"No you will not teach or show that propagandist Al Gore video to my child, ""blaming our nation"" -- the greatest nation ever to exist on this planet -- for global warming"

Please don't flame me...just a question.

[Kerrytravelers]

42. No, Gore never blamed our nation.

He simply pointed out where the world has made errors and what the effects on the globe has been. America is certainly not alone in this. This is just another example of the old tired "blame America first crowd" line that makes no sense.

[Zorra]

36. This nutjob and this story belong in the National Enquirer. n/t

[yurbud]

38. do judges try to find scientific consensus or just listen to experts on both sides and judge based

on who gives the best powerpoint presentation?

[roamer65]

41. Evangelical "Christians" are a cancer.

'enuff said.

[Doctor_J]

43. Next up: The Religious Wrong demands balance to teaching of law of gravity

and to the theory that the Earth is round.

Conservative = insane

[drm604]

44. "Liberal left is all over Hollywood"

"Liberal left is all over Hollywood"
"No you will not teach or show that propagandist Al Gore video to my child, blaming our nation -- the greatest nation ever to exist on this planet -- for global warming"

Could Mr. Hardison (Frosty???) be any more of a cliche? He sounds just like Bob Boudelang.

This sounds like some kind of joke - a man named "Frosty" disputing global warming.

[MasonJar]

45. Excuse me? One evangelical nutcase keeps a whole school system

from showing the other kids a scientifically acclaimed awakening call for global warming. Send his children to the library when it is shown.

[niceypoo]

49. Trying to stake out a religions position on global warming?

So if I make up some hair-brained religious tome to explain some scientific phenomena, I can get said tome taught in schools or use it to control what schools teach? How about this..... "Nuclear fission is part of Jesus plan to make everyone float into outer-space and become Martians." This makes just as much sense and has a similar scientific basis as "Frostys" theory.

[strategery blunder]

50. The teacher should show Hardison the "balance."

From the article:

"His daughter's science teacher, meanwhile, said she is struggling to find authoritative articles to counter the information in the Gore documentary.

"The only thing I have found so far is an article in Newsweek called 'The Cooling World,' " Walls said.

It was written 32 years ago."

:rofl: