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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:40 PM Original message |
Rocket science: "Early Spankings Make for Aggressive Toddlers, Study Shows" |
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Ezlivin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. "If you don't breast feed 'em, they grow up mean." |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I loved that movie. Especially the hand grenade pin scene. |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. Or just an interesting first date! .....n/t |
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Kadie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
3. Click your link and re-copy the url. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. And I've seen the opposite - folks who never spanked with horrid children |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. It isn't about spanking - it is about parenting. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Well then read the article again |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. Exactly. My post was for the self-congratulatory ones who don't spank |
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margotb822 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #8 |
144. Exactly! I see it every day |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I think it depends on a definition of spanking |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Amen, Warpy! It all depends on the parenting and, to an extent, the kids |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. I hope they could afford to get the kid treatment |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
83. Oh, they are in complete denial |
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Hansel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
24. Uh, I didn't spank my kids. But the eye I gave them... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
65. My mom had an Evil Eye too...more like the one raised eyebrow |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:45 AM Response to Reply #24 |
84. But non-spanking parents doesn't equal good parents |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Most people that I have seen with disrespectful children are the ones who are abusive themselves... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Attitude matters |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. SWAT... "Thank you mommy for being compassionate and exhibiting the behavior that you expect |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. on the hand, aren't you so proud of unfairly maligning people |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #48 |
55. Not proud... saddened. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. Sad that you exhibited agressive behavior towards me? |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. No, not in the least. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. Spanking is child abuse. |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:53 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I fully agree. We've never hit the kids but always made it clear what the rules were. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. Yep. Counterproductive... but always the lazy parents' preferred method. (nt) |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #20 |
95. Whats the lazy parents preferred method? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Hitting, obviously. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #101 |
113. Fucking duh, yourself. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. "Fucking duh" was for the false dichotomy. You earned it. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. And you earned a gold star. |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. Yep. Even that "swat" to get their attention. (n/t) |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
51. Oh sure, NOW you tell them...... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #6 |
56. No. It's Not. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:42 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. If you have to resort to spanking to discipline a child you are a bad parent |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #59 |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
111. anyone who believes that there is no difference between |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
142. No. You're Not. |
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CBR (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
91. I guess my parents were "bad" and "child abusers" |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. Holy shit! MY parents were abusers too!!!! |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #91 |
163. Yeah mine too. Where do we line up to sue? |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #91 |
176. Well you better start. We can't have you proving this study wrong. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #6 |
94. it sure is.....sometimes. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #6 |
109. No, it isn't. |
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yost69 (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #6 |
175. If it was child abuse than why aren't the parents in jail? |
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frebrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
7. Didn't make me agressive...... |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
9. From the "no s#!t Sherlock" files |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
10. Wow. That made me gag |
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demmiblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. Good point. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
44. Not exactly...multivariate analyses adjusted for... |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
45. seems like your wrong |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #45 |
67. Seems like I can read |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Seems like you can't interpret what you read. Does this statement say the analyses weren't adjusted |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. Duh. (nt) |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
15. The latest dispatch from the "Water is Wet" bureau? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
146. Its a no-brainer for those with no brains |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. You're one of the ones who thinks spanking isn't hitting, right? LOL (nt) |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:04 PM Response to Reply #151 |
156. Am I "the one"? |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
16. Spanking 3 times a week verses none |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Was that the criteria? I missed that. |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. My father knocked me out of my high chair |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #16 |
46. Looks like the Yahoo article misquotes the research.. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
80. Still seems high to me. |
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kickysnana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
17. 3 year old grandson never spanked spent ALL his time trying to be in charge. |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yes, because spanking doesn't equate 100% with "beating" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Why is hitting the only thing that works? Answer: it's not. |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
61. It works for the parents |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
88. Yes, it is using pain to train children. We acknowledge it doesn't work on animals... |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #88 |
110. Indeed. People who train animals or children know this. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #110 |
119. I don't know why people say "I turned out OK"... it is completely meaningless. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. And more importantly, they're usually WRONG about that. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
149. Not all pain is counterproductive |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #149 |
152. And spanking 'as a concept' is recognized to be counterproductive when used on animals... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. Are you equating kids to animals? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. Yes, I am. The average dog has an intellect on par with most 2 year olds. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:05 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. That would be a good argument if a childs intellect stayed at 2 years old. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #157 |
158. So it's bad for a dog, but good for kids. OK! |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #158 |
159. No, not at all. |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
81. It's a tool |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:20 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. IMO hitting children is not a tool with legitimate uses. It's a lazy cop out. (nt) |
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One_Life_To_Give (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:50 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. To quote Sherriff Justice, it's "An attention getter" |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #89 |
102. Like I said... most acknowledge it's counterproductive to do it to *animals*... |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
118. spanking is spanking. hitting is hitting. don't confuse the two, because, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. How is spanking not hitting? |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
82. I didn't say that it's the only thing that works |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:21 AM Response to Reply #82 |
87. Yes, violence often works in bending others to your will. That doesn't excuse it. (nt) |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #28 |
148. No one but you is supporting the strawman that spanking is the opnly answer. |
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mizz zen (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
135. If you are obnoxious to me and won't stop, shall I "swat" YOUR butt? |
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Kaylee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #17 |
122. My two kids have each been spanked once in their lives... |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
26. My father spanked me occasionally and reserved it for when I committed egregious wrongs. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Reliable as the sun coming up... the anecdotal "worked on me!" posts. (nt) |
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4lbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. There's a huge difference between spanking a kid for everything the child does and reserving it for |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Sure there is. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. my parents used "spanking" lol with a belt. i wasnt traumatized. wasnt beating |
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Luminous Animal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. My mom apologized to me, also. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
114. "It is a lazy way to discipline and it's child abuse." |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
30. of course it doesnt. whack. i told you... whack, whack, to quit hitting... whack |
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HopeHoops (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Where do you think this is, Skull and Bones? |
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TxRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
33. What about late spankings? |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
38. I was spanked. Was actually a very nice toddler |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
40. This is why I firmly challenge my toddler to a dance off when she misbehaves. |
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betharina (313 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. literally, you just made me lol. nt |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. I'm actually doing a little Fosse with her. |
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quaker bill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
41. If the best |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
42. baloney article. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:03 PM Response to Original message |
43. DU once again demonstrates its commitment to science. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. This is horrible "science" - awful, terrible, disgusting "science" |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Thanks for proving my point regarding your lack of scientific literacy. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. My guess is you guess about a lot of shit |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. I'll make you an offer. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 03:12 AM Response to Reply #72 |
78. Here's the study |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #54 |
150. Lets hope it reamins just that... |
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Jo March (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:48 AM Response to Reply #52 |
85. I agree because there is no way that poverty and stress contribute |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #43 |
143. Well said. |
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yodermon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 06:43 PM Response to Original message |
49. spanking threads = DU 3rd rail |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #49 |
105. Yup |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. Maybe assholes just raise asshole children? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:56 AM Response to Reply #57 |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #98 |
127. I'm sure. The world is full of assholes. But the fact remains: only an asshole would hit a child. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:35 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. I would agree that only an asshole would hit a child. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:42 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Spanking is hitting. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:44 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. And that is your opinion |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. If there's a form of spanking that involves something other than hitting, I've never seen it. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. I am sure that I could observe you at some point putting your hands on another person |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. All spanking is hitting. Not all hitting is spanking. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #140 |
141. But its different |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #141 |
170. Not at all. For example: All horses are mammals, but not all mammals are horses. |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #127 |
165. Then I guess my mother is an asshole. I will not say what I think of you. nt |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:28 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. If she hits children? Certainly. |
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mamaleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:56 PM Response to Reply #168 |
174. Well, Miss Angel, she is anything but an asshole. |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. I'm just not sure there is a connection. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #58 |
69. Exactly |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
60. Uh,huh. And how many nice, obedient kids get spanked? nt |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:07 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. At least two |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
64. Parenting is a full time job. You have to suit up and show up every day. |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #64 |
73. You sound like a great dad. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. T. Berry Brazelton |
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rapturedbyrobots (364 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
70. russell peters' 2 cents |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
74. Spanking is not abuse. |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
125. I think it is abuse |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-15-09 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
77. Children learn violence from spanking. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
99. No, they learn violence from observing the world we live in. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #99 |
103. They learn it at home. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #103 |
106. Sure, they learn it at home. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:00 PM Response to Reply #106 |
112. Do you think seeing their own parents... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:07 PM Response to Reply #112 |
121. I assume we are still talking about spanking, right? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #106 |
126. Yes, they learn it at home. |
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ampad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:27 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. I wonder if the people saying |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #126 |
131. But what you have described is NOT spanking. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #131 |
137. It may not be spanking according to the definition you invented. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:58 PM Response to Reply #137 |
145. I'm willing to give a litte on the semantics if you are. |
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TicketyBoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 04:17 AM Response to Original message |
79. One tends to learn parenting skills from one's parents. |
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kctim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
90. Armchair parents |
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Proud Liberal Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
92. I've always been confused about what spanking is supposed to teach children |
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laureloak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
93. What if your boss hit you every time you did something wrong? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Strawman alert! |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #100 |
107. How is that a fail? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. no, because the parent-child relationship is NOT analogous with the employer-employee relationship. |
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Stuckinthebush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:12 PM Response to Reply #116 |
124. Many leadership experts would disagree |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. I guess when most of us consider our bosses to be our parents, |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
104. Neither my sister or I were spanked. My wife and I have never spanked our daughter. |
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LondonReign2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
108. Great news for James Dobson |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
115. I'm living proof that is an outright lie. |
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mizz zen (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #115 |
138. Why--because you didn't become aggressive. I don't recall the research finding |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
147. and thus continueth the shitstorm... n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
153. Violence begets violence... |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
160. I never spanked my kids, they are 4 and 5 now and doing quite well. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. Must be nice to have perfect kids. |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. My kids are far from perfect, believe me. But spanking them when they don't behave? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #162 |
167. But were not talking about abuse |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:46 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. True. But I personally cannot do it. People all have to make the choices |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:40 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Thank you for being honest. I appreciate that. |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
164. Love and limits. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
166. Aggressive kids strive harder! |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
172. Not a big fan of spanking, but doing it before than can understand wtf they did wrong... |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-16-09 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
173. Thier moms, on the other hand, love it. |
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