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daedalus_dude Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:17 PM
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What I don't get: How is an organisation that registers people to vote a "left organisation" ?
In other countries people see it as a responsibility to vote, and anyone trying to increase turnout is welcomed. In America voting is considered "far left" behaviour then?
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:23 PM
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1. They are "far left"...
because they register people who are darker than white.

Any time anybody registers a person of color, they must be commies or atheists or ....
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:34 PM
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2. The OP knows that, and is just pretending to not understand, in his or her continual quest...
for an "anything but racism" explanation.
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daedalus_dude Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:37 PM
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3. I just think it's embarassing. That's all.
When John McCain said "I don't want to let leftist organisations steal this election" I though, damn how low this country is....
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:11 PM
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8. Have you gotten an update on John McCain's research...
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 04:17 PM by Boojatta
into the work experiences of political leaders in America?

For example, of those who have completed law school, special attention should be paid, in each leader's life history, to the period before the individual started law school. In other words, it's important for the American people to know all about what we might call the "community organizer" days of their political leaders.

For example, is there any important information that Senator McCain hasn't alerted the American people to with respect to the kind of work experiences that Vice President Biden had before Vice President Biden started law school? Surely it would be irresponsible for Senator McCain to neglect to investigate in detail any important information about someone who is a heart-beat away from the Presidency. Did Vice President Biden have impressive sounding job titles before he started law school? Was he earning a lot of money? These are important questions that Senator McCain should answer.
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:48 PM
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6. Exactly!!! Good Point!!!
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:37 PM
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4. I think a large number of citizens take America for granted
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 04:06 PM by RKP5637
I think what happens is we have a lot of apathy in America when it comes to voting. Many, despite its ups and downs, inherited America and (I think) believe it will just continue along OK, so they think they really don't need to vote... some see it as an inconvenience to vote, others seemingly don't know what it's all about and how to register to vote, and some think their vote makes no difference.

The far right and many political operatives, the religious right, etc. want to drastically change America... some want to make it a theocracy, others are only interested in their own wealth and greed. Hence, often when you try to get out the vote and improve American for the good of people, sometimes you get a huge backlash that you are some type of far left kook. They would prefer just their base vote and no competition.

What I've seen is the democrats want to help people and society... the republicans are basically only interested in money and not people, and the religious right is interested (I think) in turning American into a theocracy. Hence, when you try to get out the vote and increase voter turnout some consider you some type of left radical. I find it all extremely unfortunate. This country has changed a lot since I was a kid. I think there is far too much hatred and name calling in American today...

All of this infighting is not healthy for the country. Diversity is good, especially diversity of ideas, but all of this hatred is not. Here is a Wall Street Journal article you might find interesting that discusses the break up of America because of all of this... I think 2010 is way off. I hope it never happens. I just thought the article was interesting, just to know about. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:41 PM
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5. Republicans tend to lose elections when there is high voter turnout.
The more people vote, the more likely Democrats are to win. ACORN helps people register to vote -- mostly, although not entirely, people of color and the poor. That's a voting bloc that especially disfavors Republicans. So any effort to get people to the polls in large numbers is considered suspect; when those people aren't white it's "far left" and therefore very bad indeed.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 03:54 PM
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7. Because the people they register are not usually persons
of means and many are not of white european descent. The corporations that control our political process, therefore, think they might not vote for their Republican candidates.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:20 PM
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9. Because the right-wing wants to suppress voting.
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 04:21 PM by backscatter712
Specifically, voting by progressives, poor & working class people, and especially minorities. Voting in their eyes is a privilege of white, rich guys.

And they have a long history of this shit.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 04:26 PM
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10. Voting is mandatory in Brazil. You cannot get a passport if you do not vote.... and
you can vote as young as 16 (voluntarily), but it is mandatory once you are 18 I believe.

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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:17 PM
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11. People voting, instead of just corporations, is a leftist notion.
In Amerika, anyway.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:20 PM
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12. Any organization which does harm to the right wing election steals is a "left" org...
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 05:26 PM
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13. The people who they are registering to vote are mostly young people and minorities
The Republican coalition is made up mostly of people of means (who register to vote by themselves) and the religious right who are registered to vote by their various organizations and church groups.

In general, people who are not registered to vote and people who don't vote are people who would vote Democratic if they were registered and did vote. That doesn't mean these organizations are entirely registering Democrats but the numbers are certainly favorable to Democrats.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:22 PM
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14. Yup. Registering the poor and teaching them to vote in their own best interest
does result in enough votes to change elections. Why the GOP and their players went after Acorn. I can't wait to find out where the money for those two with the hidden camera came from.
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-27-09 09:39 PM
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15. Do they have a non-partisan policy of supporting both parties?
Edited on Sun Sep-27-09 09:41 PM by hack89
if they organize to specifically support one party over another then the criticism may be valid. I see nothing wrong with being labeled a "left organization" - I belong to several myself.

On edit: was it fair to label the Christian Coalition a "right organization"? They too expended considerable effort signing people up to vote.
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