If only they'd payed as much attention to firearms ....

[catnhatnh]

...as they do to my cars...
They'd know how many I owned and whether they were still under my control.
They could crosscheck to see if I was currently licensed.
They would have the right to inspect them each year for safety.
And if I failed any test They would stop me from operating one...

[Jack_DeLeon]

1. do you believe that to be true about all cars?

There are plenty of unregistered, uninsured cars out there. Some without inspection stickers. People that drive without licenses.

Nice little fantasy though.

Personally I think privacy from government can be a good thing.

[catnhatnh]

2. Yep...

But I'll bet there were over 100 million vehicle enforcements last year.When weapons draw that kind of response I'll be happy...

[Jack_DeLeon]

4. In any case...

driving is probably the most dangerous thing most people do in thier lives.

I am licensed to carry a concealed handgun, but I've never really felt the need to. I just have it because I value my life and the lives of the people I care about and take on myself the responsiblity to protect them when I am around. I dont fear crime because I know that I have brain and would have to do whatever I thought was best to deal with it using all the tools I have available to me.

On the other hand I've far more worried about my loved ones being hurt while driving. I've know far more people who died in car crashes than have been shot, stabbed, or beaten to death.

[catnhatnh]

7. Then would you not be better off...

to take on the responsibility of welding rollbars in your friends cars,rather than blowing off about handguns and protecting friends?

[Jack_DeLeon]

9. Nah...

while my conern is real I do not believe that mad maxing my or my friends cars, even if they allowed it, would be a reasonable and prudent measure.

Our lives our our own and it is ultimately up to each of us to decide what we value and what concerns us. We each do our own cost benefits analysis on those and do what we think its best.

As such I take care when driving knowing that it is the most dangerous thing I do any given day. It bothers me that other do not, but I can only control my own life and not that of others.

The same is true with my firearms. I know myself but I cannot know others, I will do the best that I can if I ever need but althought I hopefully never will.

In the end thought barring some incredible advances in science and technology we will all die someday. I used to believe in an afterlife and that life in general had some purpose, but it could all be that there is no purpose to it and that when we die we simple cease to be. As such we should all simply find what we enjoy in this life and spend the rest of our lives doing that.

[beevul]

3. Are you aware...

"If only they'd payed as much attention to firearms as they do to my cars...
They'd know how many I owned and whether they were still under my control.
They could crosscheck to see if I was currently licensed.
They would have the right to inspect them each year for safety.
And if I failed any test They would stop me from operating one..."


Are you aware that automobiles do not have to be liscensed, registered UNLESS they are to be used on public roads?

[catnhatnh]

5. Yes,I am....

but the downside of a not closely enough regulated vehicle being used doesn't approach the downside to the same in a firearm,does it?And Neither are firearms held to annual registration,are they?

[Jack_DeLeon]

6. It doesnt?

Plenty of people who died because of drunk drivers might disagree with you if they could.

[catnhatnh]

8. Yep...

...more people die because of cars than because of guns (though the ratio of deaths may be skewed when legal/illegal might be debatable)Yet everyone NEEDS a car, and access to a device made for killing is in my mind less neccesary...

[Jack_DeLeon]

10. Nobody "needs" a car...

its just one of those things that help make "modern" society possible.

The value of "modern" society can be debated though. I personally enjoy it, but I also understand that this way of life probably isnt how mankind was meant to live. You can argue about about the necesity of firearms, ever thought to argue about the necessity of modern society and perhaps thought to try to change that instead.

IMO the vast majority of crimes are cause by the war on drugs, that is what is responsible for most gun violence, but ofcourse most people dont care about that, since its mostly minority on minority violence. However alot more people seems to take notice when white people get shot up for no reason.

I guess its the whole "its random, it could happen to anybody even me or my loved ones things." Thats understandable, but I think its naieve. Ofcourse its random and it could happen to anybody, but then anyone of us could die tomorrow in a car crash. It does no good to live life in fear.

[sam sarrha]

11. if they payed attention to the mentally ill, and provocateurs of hate and misogyny..

the asses of evil, Rush, savage, Neil Bourski.. who pound relentlessly on hate, intolerance and diminishing the status of women..'Hillerie's castration lock box' ..hammering that women are 'THE' problem... that hate and 'Uppance' is the problem..

Rwanda was started by a Rush, savage, neil type across the river from Rwanda who whipped up a mob and it cough fire