Fundies: Hate crimes bill passage signals new era of persecution of Christians

[marmar]

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from the American Family Association's OneNewsNow:



Christians on high alert over hate crimes passage
Charlie Butts - OneNewsNow - 10/24/2009 4:15:00 AM


A hate crimes bill sent to President Obama for his signature raises a red flag for Christians.

On Thursday, the U.S. Senate passed a hate crimes bill that Christian leaders have warned for years could greatly infringe on the rights of those who speak to loudly about their religious views. Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel agrees with most observers that President Obama will sign the measure -- adding that the president desires to "throw a bone to homosexual activists because they have been breathing down his neck...and this is a way to hold them off."

Barber views the legislation as something akin to a muzzle. "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable position," says the attorney.

He notes that several years ago, a similar law in Pennsylvania resulted in the arrest of 11 Christians who were presenting the gospel at a Philadelphia homosexual rally. Barber goes on to say that the federal bill "will chill religious liberty and free speech -- and that is its intended purpose, not to protect anybody from hate crimes."

And as for pastors? "There is a very weak exemption in (the bill) which is totally illusory, and a religious exemption is not going to protect pastors," responds Barber. "Renegade prosecutors and politically correct leftists in positions of authority can subjectively determine what is or is not a hate crime." And then move on to prosecution, he adds.

Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation.


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=736154

[tmyers09]

1. Matt Barber of Liberty Counsel...

can shut his god damned mouth and sit the fuck down, as far as I'm concerned.

[sam sarrha]

2. this will also apply to all religions.. good move...

[madrchsod]

3. i wonder if paul would agree with theses religious assholes....

[dmallind]

11. I see nothing in his writings to indicate otherwise

Paul was a virulent bigot on many fronts and is the ONLY source for NT homophobia.

[saltpoint]

4. May Christ have mercy upon us, what with the passage of hate crimes

legislation running concurrent with Scooby-Do cartoons.

We are doomed, everyone.

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

5. Look out - wait till he signs a Bill outlawing Hypocrisy!

Barber views the legislation as something akin to a muzzle. "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable position," says the attorney.

[sam sarrha]

8. why is this needed, Religious people don't hate anyone..ALL religions are of Peace... group hug

:grouphug:

i think they should regulate themselves.... hey that works for the ReThuglicans

we all know that in the upcoming demonstrations against godless health care providing abortions, that the organized, trained and bussed in demonstrators will behave themselves as just as would Jesus teaching love and peace

it will be the Fascist Pigs last stand against poor people getting something they dont deserve..

[Lyric]

10. They still have a right to hate.

They just can't commit crimes based on that hate without earning higher penalties.

Hate crime statutes only apply to criminals. Why are these Christians defending criminals?

[lunatica]

6. Christians demand their right to hate, and to scream about it without limitations

How dare anyone make it a crime to persecute and strip all protections from the godless!

The irony!

:sarcasm:

[iamjoy]

7. I Don't Understand

I thought the hate crimes legislation was about allowing federal resources to be used in the investigation of and for harsher penalties in the case of convictions for existing crimes. I didn't think it had anything to do with what people said unless those words were spoken/written during the commission of an assault or murder.

[sam sarrha]

9. link>>>

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/spin

[msongs]

12. billions raped, tortured, murdered in 2000 years yet that is still NOT enough for them nt

[MidwestTransplant]

13. I would submit that real Christians don't commit hate crimes. At least I wouldn't think so.

[annabanana]

14. WHY CAN'T WE BE FREE TO HATE WHO GOD TELLS US TO???

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