My objection to Fox News is *not* its politicial bias.

[Donald Ian Rankin]

The newspaper I read most regularly is the Guardian, an explicitly left-wing paper. I also read the right-wing Telegraph and the libertarian Economist.

All of those - like most news sources - have their own political slant/bias (two words that are essentially synonymous, except that one conveys disapproval and one does not). And there is nothing wrong with that - a neutral news source is essentially one whose political slant is centrist.

But all of them are completely up-front about it.

The Telegraph will say "left wingers think this, right wingers think that, here are the reasons the right wingers are right". I disagree with that, but I have no problem with them doing so.

Fox News, by contrast, is a right-wing news source that attempts to pretend to be centrist, and does so by misrepresenting what it reports. The valid objection to it, in my view, is *not* its political slant, but its attempt to deny and conceal that slant by presenting right-wingers as centrists, centrists as left-wingers etc.


I think that the White House treating it as a hostile entity, and people knowing that they are doing so, is probably a good thing - it doesn't matter if it achieves anything in itself, the crucial thing is that it will make people watching Fox News more aware that what they are watching is right-wing rather than neutral news coverage.

[Tony_FLADEM]

1. The bias of Fox News is not political it's economic

The mission of Fox News is to promote policies that help the rich and corporations.

The reason they promoted the war in Iraq was so corporations and the rich could make money out of it. They are trying to kill health care reform because they don't want the health insurance and medical industries to lose any of their profits.

[non sociopath skin]

3. I'd go one further and say that the mission of Fox News, like all elements of News International ...

... is to further the business interests of the Murdoch Family in any way appropriate.

NI won't take on totalitarian governments like China directly because they'd get kicked out and make no money. But with democracies like the US and the UK, they will spend whatever it takes to get an administration in power which will facilitate their business interests.

New Labour has been the best deal for them in the UK for the last 12 years. But now that the Tories under Thatcher's disciple Cameron have promised to destroy the BBC and make more room for the Murdochs to muscle in, they've switched sides again.

That's globalism fer ye ... Pure greed.

The Skin

[sam sarrha]

6. i don't think it is Greed.. it is a Mental Illness, OCD wealth Hording, a Pox threatening us all

[brewens]

2. They've already been sold the story that...

all the other news is liberal biased and Fox is the only real news. Fox viewers will see attacks on Fox as more proof of liberal bias.

[sam sarrha]

4. example of an Apriori Loop, Conclusion comes first Premise follows, invincible ignorance..

edited: my point is that this is a mental illness, possible Psychosis. it can only be altered by literally physically restructuring the dominate regions of the brain.. thru art music, repetitious exercise or meditation over a lon period of time.. up to years. some changes are perceptible after a few months.. but it takes coordinated long term deliberate effort if not out right dedication..

so essentially they are lost/hopeless, and they will drag us all down to hell with them.

[non sociopath skin]

5. ... and to their eternal shame, the other US news networks buy into it ...

... despite the fact that the Murdochs would put every single one of them out of business tomorrow if he could.

The Skin

[donco6]

7. They're just terrible journalists.

It's like taking the staff of "Us" magazine and telling them they're going to do "real" news now.

[LeFleur1]

8. Real News

Quote from above post: a neutral news source is essentially one whose political slant is centrist. End Quote.


Real news is bald faced facts. No opinion words included.
For Example:

Ex.The Bush/Cheney administration will invade Iraq for the purpose of regime change because they believe there are weapons of mass destruction hidden there.

Ex.The team responsible for monitoring and checking the building of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq report that there are no weapons of mass destruction hidden there.

When opinion words are included in the news it is no longer unbiased news.

Talk shows are different. They are not news. They are discussions... what ifs, maybes, I heards... concerning the news. It seems people aren't warned that this is so, and they don't differentiate. Too often news is not news but murky facts embellished by opinion.

[sam sarrha]

10. calling them journalists is a discredit to 3rd graders across the country, they'r "Readers", they

read a teleprompter, they also follow daily talking points.. they are not even good actors, most are despicable mindless soulless over paid Flying Monkeys

[KharmaTrain]

9. The Problem Isn't Faux

It's with the other corporate mediatypes that pick up on their talking points and assume them to be "fact"...to run with their talking points in framing how an issue is presented. It's also the systemic problem of the beltway chattering class who are more concerned with "face time" and drinkie-drinkie parties than to do real investigative work or even fact checking. It's the turning of news into "entertainment" where food fights and he said/she said is considered "balance" and where rumors run around the world several times before the truth walks out the door.

[sam sarrha]

11. give them way TOO much credit.. Murdock micro-manages... they get their own talking points.. CNN

copies them.. because the way they do it can make money.. CNN and all the other TV media is nearly as bad simply because they are all owned by FAR Reich Wing military industrial complex corporations. Faux is owned by an extremist nut case Foreigner, Murdock, who paid Gingrich and the ReThuglican party $100's of millions to sell out our radio and TV to him.

[endless october]

12. i think the WH should ignore faux entirely.

the network is a joke, and if you don't see that, you deserve to watch faux.

[Trekologer]

13. My objection is that they are just bad at reporting

They frequently fail to get the basic facts of the story wrong. Their reporting is sloppy. Is this a result of their bias? Who knows...but they're just bad at the basics of reporting the news.