I'm sitting in John Edwards Master Bathroom

[ShaneGR]

Seriously, these Edwards house threads are just silly. First the house is just too big, then they're using the wrong kind of light bulbs, sometime next week I expect to see a 250 post thread on the Edwards choice of faucets and the size of his plasma TV. Soon after we'll have a really great conversation about Mrs. Edwards childrens beds and whether or not yound children really need a king size bed. And btw, Posturepedic beds cost the lives of thousands of young sapling trees.

WHO THE HELL CARES!

The whole DU Edwards meme is rather amusing actually.

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[meow mix]

2. cute calling names right off the bat

:eyes:

[RetroLounge]

8. Who did I call a name?

Feeling guilty, are you?

RL

[meow mix]

12. apparently anyone concerned or critical of the candidate in question

no im fine ty

[Buddyblazon]

15. I am not even a Edwards fan...

but I think it's just making a mountain out of a molehill.

But like I said...to each their own.

[Buddyblazon]

3. It's the Edwards crap...

that allows the Republics to give us the label "whiny Dems".

Some people just have too much time on their hands...and are 10000 x's waaaaaaaayyyyy over sensitive.

With that...I'm sure I will now have 50 posters calling for me to be banned.

[thatsrightimirish]

4. I'm not one of them

Tell it like it is!

[Buddyblazon]

5. That's because your Irish like me...

nice to meet you. Mr. Flanagan here.

[skipos]

6. I care because

I think it would be easier to sell himself as a champion of the poor and friend of the environment if he lived in a more modest house. Is he free to do whatever he wants with his money? Sure. He could even buy a Hummer and a million shares of Halliburton if he wants, I just think it will make it harder for him to connect with the people I'd like him to connect with. I am really not upset about it, just my 2 cents.

[mondo joe]

13. I can even buy the environmental complaint, but how does he have to live to

champion the poor?

Like Oprah Winfrey? Like FDR? Like Dennis Kucinich?

Do you need to live like a person in a war zone to connect to Iraqis? Do you need to live in a hut and be fatally ill to connect to kids with AIDS in Africa?

Jezus.

[skipos]

18. "I can even buy the environmental complaint"

"but how does he have to live to champion the poor?"

Where did I say he had to live a certain way? If you think that a house like that won't have the slightest effect on how people perceive his "two americas" theme and his pro-environment stance, that's great. I disagree.

"Do you need to live like a person in a war zone to connect to Iraqis?" No. But if you were a big investor in Halliburton, I think people would doubt your sincerity.

"Do you need to live in a hut and be fatally ill to connect to kids with AIDS in Africa?" No. But if you liked to have condom-less sex with strippers at local African nudie bar, I think people would doubt your sincerity.

"Jezus."
How about we have a level headed discussion?

[mondo joe]

20. By all means: level headed.

Oprah Winfrey, the Roosevelts, Bill & Melinda Gates, Angelina Jolie, Ted Kennedy.

Does the opulent lifestyle of any of the above negatively impact the widely held perception of them taking action to help the poor?

John Edwards house isn't doing a thing that makes anyone else more poor. It's arguably less costly and expansive than the many homes of John Kerry, and according to one report smaller than Al Gore's home in Nashville.

It's roughly 10,000 sq feet - a pretty big house - with an adjacent set of offices in the barn. Five bedrooms, 6 1/2 baths.

The Two Americas was never about pulling everyone down - it's about everyone having the opportunity to make good like Edwards did. America still loves a rags to riches story - even though some of DU does not.

[skipos]

21. "Does the opulent lifestyle of any of the above..."

Not much. But running for president is different, and our candidates can use all the help they can get. Lately fewer poor & middle class are voting for Dems. Obviously policy is what really matters, but living in a way that can be perceived as wasteful is a mistake, imo.

Again, I didn't get worked up about the Edwards thing at all. I just wish our candidates could live with the least amount of waste possible. Odds are our candidate will be a multimillionaire who will be branded a "limousine librul" no matter what, so I best be getting used to it.

[mondo joe]

22. But I don't think fewer poor and middle class people vote for dems because they

are perceived to be wealthy. This, I think, is one of the more grave ways progressives are out of touch with the mainstream.

Americans are not such idiots as to think their choices in candidates are anything but well off, and typically QUITE well off.

I don't think Americans by and large mind people being wealthy. I think the majority of Americans still aspire to be wealthy.

What I do think Americans want is someone they feel at heart is with them. From Bill Clinton to Princess Diana to Eleanor Roosevelt to Oprah Winfrey - every one of them known to be anything but ordinary, but individuals made an emotional peer connection with. Then take John Kerry or George Bush the elder, neither of whom made that sort of connection.

Personally, I admire a certain frugality. To tell you the truth, in some way I think people who buy jumbo size eggs have a moral flaw. But I also think success is very appealing to a lot of people, and hurts in the general election a lot less than it does on DU.

[illinoisprogressive]

7. MYDD has an emotional article on this matter right now.

[Nutmegger]

9. Is the commode made of gold?

Are there one thousand dollar bills in the bathtub?

Are the tiles platinum?

Inquiring minds want to know.

[meow mix]

10. i care

that unsustainabily and global warming is suddenly is being treated as a non-issue.

[Buddyblazon]

14. Sorry...

I see it as another circular firing squad and a super waste of time.

But hey...to each their own.

[Ellipsis]

11. It's getting old

http://www.designerplumbing.com/store/HERBEAU18.html

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

16. What's the weather like in John Edwards' Master Bathroom?

And how long does it take to walk from one wall to the other? Can you even see the opposite wall from where you sit?

[Gwerlain]

17. Complete absolute waste of time...

and as far as I'm concerned, PARTICULARLY considering the source is the rather obviously heavily-right-wing-partisan Drudge Report, nothing but a right-wingnut troll job that a large number of DUers seem to have jumped on the bandwagon with. Personally, I'm a little choosier about whose wagon I ride than that, but y'all are welcome to do whatever you dream up.

How long until the Nader threads start up again?

[Mick Knox]

19. Maybe the house stuff is a little tired BUT

for sure if he wasnt a war hawk, if he stood for getting out of Iraq and maybe eveb impeaching buzzy (am I reaching with that one?), I'd probably let everything else thats not progressive and bathed in excess about him slide.