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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:17 AM
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Unhappy Meals - (or, What's wrong with the Modern Diet). - NYT
Long article here. If you don't have time to read it all, just skip to pages 11 and 12 for a summary. Try to read the whole thing though.

The article as a whole is educational, although not always consistent in it's advice. He seems very open-minded about most aspects of diet, but not about meat. His evidence there seems to be, "it's been fashionable to bash meat for 3 decades, so lets not examine this part of the equation. IMHO. Of course, maybe the problem isn't really meat; it's the less than healthy way meat is produced in America. Much like the less than healthy way veggies are grown in America, which he well recognizes.

Some excerpts:

1. Eat food. Though in our current state of confusion, this is much easier said than done. So try this: Don’t eat anything your great-great-grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food. (Sorry, but at this point Moms are as confused as the rest of us, which is why we have to go back a couple of generations, to a time before the advent of modern food products.) There are a great many foodlike items in the supermarket your ancestors wouldn’t recognize as food (Go-Gurt? Breakfast-cereal bars? Nondairy creamer?); stay away from these.

2. Avoid even those food products that come bearing health claims. They’re apt to be heavily processed, and the claims are often dubious at best. Don’t forget that margarine, one of the first industrial foods to claim that it was more healthful than the traditional food it replaced, turned out to give people heart attacks. When Kellogg’s can boast about its Healthy Heart Strawberry Vanilla cereal bars, health claims have become hopelessly compromised. (The American Heart Association charges food makers for their endorsement.) Don’t take the silence of the yams as a sign that they have nothing valuable to say about health.

..snip..

4. Get out of the supermarket whenever possible. You won’t find any high-fructose corn syrup at the farmer’s market; you also won’t find food harvested long ago and far away. What you will find are fresh whole foods picked at the peak of nutritional quality. Precisely the kind of food your great-great-grandmother would have recognized as food.

5. Pay more, eat less. The American food system has for a century devoted its energies and policies to increasing quantity and reducing price, not to improving quality. There’s no escaping the fact that better food — measured by taste or nutritional quality (which often correspond) — costs more, because it has been grown or raised less intensively and with more care. Not everyone can afford to eat well in America, which is shameful, but most of us can: Americans spend, on average, less than 10 percent of their income on food, down from 24 percent in 1947, and less than the citizens of any other nation. And those of us who can afford to eat well should. Paying more for food well grown in good soils — whether certified organic or not — will contribute not only to your health (by reducing exposure to pesticides) but also to the health of others who might not themselves be able to afford that sort of food: the people who grow it and the people who live downstream, and downwind, of the farms where it is grown.

“Eat less” is the most unwelcome advice of all, but in fact the scientific case for eating a lot less than we currently do is compelling. “Calorie restriction” has repeatedly been shown to slow aging in animals, and many researchers (including Walter Willett, the Harvard epidemiologist) believe it offers the single strongest link between diet and cancer prevention. Food abundance is a problem, but culture has helped here, too, by promoting the idea of moderation. Once one of the longest-lived people on earth, the Okinawans practiced a principle they called “Hara Hachi Bu”: eat until you are 80 percent full. To make the “eat less” message a bit more palatable, consider that quality may have a bearing on quantity: I don’t know about you, but the better the quality of the food I eat, the less of it I need to feel satisfied. All tomatoes are not created equal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/28/magazine/28nutritionism.t.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=magazine

Let's keep this bumped for the morning crew!!
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 05:32 AM
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1. thanks for posting this
I've just skimmed your post for now but I will definitely read the entire article.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:05 AM
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2. Great article, thanks!
My husband has high cholesterol and we've been modifying his diet for a couple of months to bring it down. We're now eating very healthy compared to most Americans, I suspect. The one bugger tends to be avoiding high fructose corn syrup, as the article mentions. I swear it's in near everything that isn't straight out of a field. This quote is memorable:

'As one nutrition expert put it to me, we’re in the middle of “a national experiment in mainlining glucose.”'

Seems to me that really shouldn't be done outside an IV drip in hospital under a doctor's care....

Anyway, again it seems that common sense and real food are the way to go. Which is, I think, something we all innately understand. Sadly, most supermarkets eliminate our ability to practice good judgement.
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cap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:09 AM
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4. the key to avoiding HFCS is avoiding processed foods...
dont put anything in your mouth that hasnt come from a natural source.

Baked goods are full of trans fat, too.

It's a pain to cook from scratch on a daily basis so get a freezer and cook in bulk.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:56 AM
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7. That's all very well and good for people who live in houses.
What about apartment dwellers?
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:08 AM
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15. That's my problem -- no space
I have a smaller-than normal fridge & freezer. And leave for work at 7 and return at 6, plus 3 nights a week at the gym, so it's tough to find time to cook. My S.O. eats the most appalling crap (his three main food groups are Entemanns, Tastykake and Hostess) so I can't count on him to buy or cook healthy

I'm obsessive about avoiding HFCS and trans fats, but given my schedule, it's tough to go beyond that. I buy brown rice and whole-wheat no-HFCS bread, and S.O. won't touch either.

I joke that the cat, who gets pricey "California Natural" dry and Merrick's canned foods, eats better than we do.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:36 PM
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35. Steaming vegetables takes 3 minutes. Since I don't cook much
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:38 PM by roody
it's my favorite. Rice in the rice cooker, beans in the crock pot.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:01 AM
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43. For Christmas my sister got me this little gem from tupperware:
http://order.tupperware.com/pls/htprod_www/tup_show_item.show_item_detail?fv_item_number=P10054890000">Microsteamer. Put a little water in the bottom, cut up your veggies and put them in the top and cover, then microwave for the number of minutes suggested in the guide. I don't know how I did without it before. Easy peasy!
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Patiod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:05 AM
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46. I got a crock-pot in an effort to eat more home-cooked meals
and S.O. delights in coming up with creations involving egg noodles, MSG-centered "spice" packets and Campbell's soup, completely defeating the purpose.

Weekends we do have some good stuff out of it, though, although he is not happy to see vegetables on his plate (why yes, his dad DID die of a heart attack at age 50!)
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diane in sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:59 AM
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38. buy a crockpot
You can have a warm stew waiting when you get home.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:46 AM
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21. Not a good excuse
I live in a 10X50 foot trailer. I cook all my own food from scratch. I've gotten it down to where it doesn't take a whole lot of time or effort. I eat very simply, mostly (all organic) grains, vegies, tempeh, and some fish and small amounts of organic chicken. A pot of grains and a pot of beans will last several days in the fridge and it only takes about 10 minutes to steam up some greens.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 09:53 PM
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34. Exactly. Even if you're cooking a day ahead
You can always manage to steam grain and cook beans, just keep them in the fridge and dip into them all week. Different seasonings and veggies plus cheese will give you enough variation, as will the sides you pick.

Stir fries take minimal prep time and practically no cooking time and make a banquet out of that boring pot of rice.

There's no reason not to eat soups, not with "Better than Bouillion on the grocery shelves. Just make broth according to directions on the jar, add veggies (and frozen veggies can come in handy here), add finely chopped onion and celery, throw a little pasta in, and it's just like Granny's.

Nobody expects apartment dwellers to be Julia Child with cupboards full of exotic ingredients. However, good food, simply prepared, will make people a whole lot healthier than the standard American diet has a hope to.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:39 AM
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14. Hit the organic section for processed foods.
The organic section canned goods use either cane sugar or they forgoe the sugar entirely. It was the only place I could find spaghetti sauce minus the sugar. These items also tend to be very low sodium, as well. After eating organic soups, any brand name soup tastes incredibly salty to me, now. I love comparing lablels. The stuff in the organic section is all made of ingredients I have on the shelf at home, not chemicals.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:55 AM
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42. That's great advice!
The organic section at our supermarket isn't huge, but it's got adequate to help anyone with a little imagination to prepare healthier meals. And I know what you mean about the soups!

Instant turn-off nowadays: labels full of things I can't pronounce.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 12:48 AM
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37. High-sugar diets are time bombs. Your risk of Alzheimer's increases 200%-400% if you are diabetic
(depending if you're insulin-dependent or non-insulin dependent) becuase obesity and diabetes trigger inflammation, including inflammation in the brain. I heard a doctor report on this at a medical convention this weekend.

Fish or fish oil capsules are also very important because of the omega-fatty acids. You can dramatically lower your risk of heart disease, Parkinson's and other disease this way.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:07 AM
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3. kick n/t
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:30 AM
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5. This is a great post!!!!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 06:43 AM
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6. Everyone should read and/or bookmark this thread.
Thanks for sharing! :thumbsup:
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Kindigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 07:17 AM
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8. cute
Don’t take the silence of the yams as a sign that they have nothing valuable to say about health. :)
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:16 AM
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16. I liked that line as well!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 07:34 AM
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9. And try a colorful diet
lots a of greens, oranges, reds, blues, etc...
and try to avoid "dead" food
(the brown, beiges and whites)
raw is good, processed is not so good

i tried it and it totally change my metabolism from tired to wired.
Like anything else its still hard to stick to... but it's an easy formula to try.

GREAT ARTICLE BTW !!! (silence of the yams..hehehe)
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:05 AM
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10. Excellent article.
Eat real food! K&R! :kick:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:09 AM
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11. This thread from last week was also good
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 08:10 AM by DemReadingDU
about niacin and cholesterol

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=10535


and if you have not seen it yet, watch the documentary Super Size Me.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390521/tvschedule

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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:13 AM
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12. Fortunately we have a great series of Greenmarkets in NYC.
Unfortunately, at this time of year, there's not a lot there; apples, squash, meat, some hydroponics and organic and natural baked goods and jams. Come spring....WOW.
Some of the farmers have told me that without the greenmarkets they would have been bought out by developers or just gone out of business. It's been a particularly exciting development that some ethnic groups have gone into farming to supply their own communities with vegetable varieties from home and now share them with the rest of us.
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terip64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 08:25 AM
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13. Great article! Thanks and welcome!
:hi:
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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:18 AM
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17. Just avoiding processed foods is a great thing. Just buy produce, grains, meat
and cook.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:21 AM
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18. Food and what is in it is a major issue, but another corresponding shift
needs to occur in this society to promote total health. People tend to grab processed food and junk food as part of the way to manage their time.

How often do you hear the comment that Americans work longer and harder than any other nation in the world? How many people do you know working doubletime for the man? Perhaps you do this as well. How many people are virtually hanging on by working multiple jobs? How many are having the life is being sucked out of them, fear losing incomes because the man threatens to outsource their jobs because production isn't high enough? Do people spend their free time out looking for organically grown food...and, better yet, can they even afford it? I know that we can't. My time is limited and I try to buy as much produce and select fresh meats that I know a little about. We can't afford organic...we seriously can't. My schedule now leaves me Saturday or Sunday in which to work some cooking into the chores that I can't get to the rest of the week because of other obligations.

It is more than our diets that need to change. The globalization and free trade crap is creating virtual servitude for people the world over.
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:37 AM
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19. Packaged, Processed Foods Sit in My Cupboards
They look so tempting on the shelf. I buy them, and they sit in my cupboard doing nothing for 2-3 years.
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youthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:43 AM
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20. K & R..
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:46 AM by youthere
EAT FOOD..been saying the same thing for years.

Dried, ground, reconstituted, fortified,"flavored", pressed, battered, fried, flash-frozen and tucked into cardboard...guess what? It isn't food anymore.
"Food" manufacturers spend BILLIONS of dollars to brainwash the public into believing that cooking real food is hard, time consuming, or inconvenient. Don't buy into it the lie.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:47 AM
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22. A recent book on this topic
Edited on Mon Jan-29-07 10:49 AM by MountainLaurel
Is Nina Planck's "Real Food." It's an excellent resource on why processed foods are killing us.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:53 AM
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26. That IS a wonderful book.
That book and this Pollan article made me realize I need to scale up my gardening this year...
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:47 AM
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23. "Don’t eat anything your great-great-grandmother wouldn’t recognize as food."
I love this! It's what I've been trying to say as far as eating natural and fresh. If it is processed, steer clear of it. A list of ingredients belongs in a recipe, not on a box.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:48 AM
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24. And, as my brother sez, don't eat blue food. There's no such
thing as blue food.
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:51 AM
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25. lol - so true.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:01 AM
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28. Blueberries.
:hide:
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:51 AM
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31. Blueberries: "Blue on the vine, purple on the plate." --George Carlin
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:15 AM
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40. Red cabbage...
It's one of the healthiest foods you can eat, and it will turn blue when you boil it unless you add vinegar to the water. That's how I got my son to eat cabbage when he was a toddler, because blue was his favorite color.

Also, blueberries are one of the best antioxidants around.

I know you were joking, but I just thought I'd throw those two in. I still leave out the vinegar once in a while just for kicks.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:58 AM
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27. Sausage, oatmeal, and whisky.
My g-g-grandmother was from Scotland. I don't know if any of those people ate anything green, ever. :)
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kineneb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:54 AM
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32. pork sausage, rye bread, cabbage, potatoes, sauerkraut, goose fat
Don't forget the baked goods. Ahh, German home cooking.

And the from the Norwegians- lutefish and pickled herring.

All depends on great-great-grandmother's ethnic origin.

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:11 PM
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47. Oatmeal, potatoes and skim milk here
The family had one cow and sold the butter but kept the skim milk. I always fed my kids skim milk and butter figuring that it is only now that people can afford to drink whole milk and buy butter.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:10 AM
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29. Thanks for the link!
looks like some good reading for tonight.
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Mrs. Overall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 11:37 AM
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30. Thanks! Recommended!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 07:26 PM
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33. Timely and on-the-mark but I'm not sure about #5 "Pay more, eat less."
Eat less -- fine. but "pay more"? This seems to perpetuate the idea that junk food is cheaper than real food. It isn't. The very reason junk food is so heavily advertised is because of the profit margin. 5 ounces of Lay's potato chips are about $2; that's $6.40 a pound. Very few vegetables or fruits are more than $4/lb. Soda is $1.49 for 2 liters. You would be better off (marginally) just dissolving 5-cents worth of sugar (vs. HFCS) in filtered tap water.

And once you add in the healthcare costs associated with eating wrong, then the price of junk food is much higher than real food. Diabetes costs about $18,000 per year. If you average that out then a can of soda costs about $6: >$1 for the soda and $5+ for the healthcare.

On the flip side, the idea that junk food is cheaper ignore that fact that there are plenty of nutritionally-great foods which are dirt cheap:
- oatmeal
- beans and peas ($.69/lb)
- fruit (at around $3/lb)
- chicken breast ($3-6/lb)
and many many more.

I hate to think that people who may be inclined to improve their diet are hearing that it will cost them money when it really doesn't. For instance, granola and yogurt is a cheaper breakfast than an Egg McMuffin (and faster and there is no cooking involved or gasoline burning).
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-29-07 10:42 PM
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36. Thank you. Dry beans, rice, grain, granola---
the basics are not expensive. Organic produce is higher, but not that much where I live. Buy it in season. It is worth it; it is medicine.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 01:58 AM
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39. When I Had Soda In The House, Nobody Drank Water!
The Diet Coke was a really hard habit for me to break, but now at least I can get the kids to drink water. Otherwise they get in the can-popping habit and it's so unhealthy, not to mention expensive!

One "pay more" thing I do is getting grass-fed, range raised meat, free range chicken...I just get it a couple of times a month instead of getting the cheaper stuff regularly. My dad is a vegan and my daughter a lacto-veg, so I eat like that most of the time, I'm sure none of my great great great grandmothers did though!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 02:13 PM
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48. It depends - for poor people meat was a treat, not an everyday item.
It's hard to believe, but until well after World War II, chicken could cost more than steak!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:51 AM
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41. Grandma and Grandpa exercised a whole LOT more, too!
They weren't couch potatoes.
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Katherine Brengle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:38 AM
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44. Bravo!
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:46 AM
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45. Damn good to see.....
this thread getting attention. Just wish everyone here at DU would read it.

Real food is health. Fake food is sickness.
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GoneOffShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:22 PM
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49. Kicked, kicked, kicked.
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 09:23 PM by GoneOffShore
Eat food. Not too much. Mostly plants.

Thank you for posting this.

Michael Pollan, stay off small planes.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:31 PM
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50. Wow, I missed this thread the first time. Good stuff!
Posting here so I'll remember to come back and read later.
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