AGAG to Senator Durbin: "Be careful about criticizing the Department."

[bobthedrummer]

Your thoughts on this during the lunch break, please.

[fooj]

1. Isn't that a THREAT?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. Sounds like a threat to me.

That would be one more crime on the list. Contempt of congress even.

[deminks]

3. I think the "AG" just threatened a US Senator.

I would ask him when he returns, if he returns, "or what?"

[in_cog_ni_to]

4. I'd say Durbin's explosive comeback was PERFECT! "That's like telling me if I speak out against the

war, I'm not supporting the soldiers."

That sounded like a THREAT by Gonzo. The man needs to GO!

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

7. That was brilliant on Durbin's part! eom

[ChairmanAgnostic]

9. zinged right back atcha, asshole

Durbin was in fine form.

I am surprised just how arrogant Abu Gonzo remains, even after this session

[Whoa_Nelly]

5. Durbin's comeback was: It's not about critizing the department

It's about you and your handling of the department...or something like that...

[Robbien]

6. wait a minute, what happened here?

Gonzo told Durbin to stuff it?

[goclark]

24. He sure did tell him to stick it and stuff it!

[tandot]

8. AGAG spelled backwards is GAGA...and that is what he is. nt

[BlooInBloo]

10. self-delete

[bobthedrummer]

11. This is precisely what happened as the Third Reich grew from a handful to totalitarian.

This administration has got to be held accountable for crimes against humanity, treason, war profiteering, and AGAG needs to be indicted NOW.

"Be careful about criticizing the Department." Or what?

[in_cog_ni_to]

14. EXACTLY! Or what? My guess is, The WH and Gonzo are going to stall, refuse to turn over

documents and evidence for as long as Congress lets them get away with it. The ONLY way to stop them now is to IMPEACH them all!

[pberq]

16. Exactly - the real Gonzales came through in that threat

We are talking about fascism here, folks. In other words, Gonzo was telling a U.S. Senator that there are consequences for criticizing his "justice" department.

[bobthedrummer]

19. Yes, the "consequences" used to be called crazy conspiracy theories.

[tabasco]

21. It can't happen here!!

Yes it can!

Seeing thug Gonzales threaten a US Senator should tell every American just what an anti-American criminal syndicate the Bush mafia really is!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

12. Of course it was threat to my great Senator Durbin.

He's up for re-election in 2008.

It'll be very interesting to see who the Goopers come up with to run against him. I'm thinking the Milk Nazi, Oberweis, might get the call this time around. He's got his own money and he's a real Reich Winger.

[in_cog_ni_to]

17. We just had an "Oberweis" Ice Cream Parlor open up here. My son told me how WONDERFUL it is and I

had to explain to him why he will never eat there again.:) He went there with some friends not knowing that Oberweis is forbidden in our home. He knows now.:7 Maybe Topenka will run against Durbin? I'm going to work on his campaign. I love the guy. I didn't realize he's up for re-election in '08 though!

[mohinoaklawnillinois]

30. I don't think Judy Barr Topinka will run against Durbin.

She got hammered by Blago last November and Dick Durbin is a hell of lot more popular in the State of Illinois than Blago is.

[bdamomma]

31. I bet if you call Durbin's office and say you heard on C Span

during the AG testimony saying BE CAREFUL, does that sound like a threat to the Senator.

[rosesaylavee]

39. Oberweis would need to have every line

fed to him if he does run. He has great ice cream but not much in the brains dept. Perhaps Cheney would like to come and lip sync for him too?

[KharmaTrain]

43. Who Else Is There?

Most candidates either are too fringe or have lost big in statewide elections. The cupboard is pretty bare.

I'd love for the Milk Nazi (love that name) to run...drain a bunch of his money and then watch him get thumped in November.

IMHO, Durbin is also Democratic Party leadership...I think Gonzo's shot was taken in that direction.

Cheers...

:hi:

[Bandit]

13. One man does not make the Department any more than one man makes the government

Neither Gonzales not Bush* are the Government nor are they the Department..It is a concept that is truly lost on the wing nuts....

[Robbien]

15. During the last two years Gonzo has been firing everyone who is not a Bushie

Not just the AGs, all the Justice staff has been replaced with Bushies.

So I would say the Justice department is a reflection of Gonzo.

[tulsakatz]

18. it does sound like a threat.......

....no matter what Gonzo meant, it might not be wise to threaten a Congressman in such a public forum.

[bdamomma]

33. yes, we are witnesses to that comment.

[ObaMania]

20. I kind'a wish Durbin grew bigger balls and asked AGAG directly...

.. if that was a threat or what does he mean by that?

It is not the Senator being questioned and chastised here.. it's AG.

[LSK]

22. ITS HIS JOB TO CRITICIZE THE DEPT

ITS CALLED SEPERATION OF POWERS AND OVERSIGHT!!!

WHEN WILL THESE FUCKERS READ THE CONSTITUTION?????????

[bobthedrummer]

23. It was a threat -given while under oath by a treasonous liar serving at the pleasure of his Decider.

[Solly Mack]

25. Well, considering it came from the Torture Czar

it can only be a threat

[kestrel91316]

26. I think he needs to be arrested posthaste for making a

terrorist threat against a US Senator.

[quiet.american]

27. Also his remark about he didn't think the Senate should have a say in confirming USA's --

-- was a chilling statement and a bombshell of the sort that should finish him.

[lazyriver]

28. I was listening to it on NPR and although the quote is true,

in context, I took the statement differently. He continued with something like, "Criticize me. I'm taking resposibility...etc". It certainly didn't seem like a blatant threat but perhaps it was a thinly veiled one.

They are really frying him today. Some of the best radio I've heard in my whole life. I can't wait for round two!

[bobthedrummer]

32. In context prior to the threat Senator Durbin was referencing Karl Rove/AGAG

contacts.

[lazyriver]

34. True. The "blame me" might have been added

in an attempt to qualify and/or disguise the blurted threat.

[bobthedrummer]

40. Other Senators brought up ROVE et al and when this hearing resumes

the tensions will be even higher-Senator Leahy is going to do something AGAG et al can't prevent now that all this mornings lies have been entered.

:nopity:

[lazyriver]

41. I'm going to stream CSPAN-3 for round 2

I want to see Gonzo squirm this afternoon. I need to see the deer in the headlights look. Something big is coming.

[bobthedrummer]

44. Maybe he will be locked out of "his" Department's office as evidence is gathered by DoJ

National Security Division/NSD employees. A lot of people are unaware of this new DoJ organ-maybe that was implied in the threat.

Another sidebar Kyle Sampson's career move into this criminal administration was helped by his old law school pal Elizabeth CHENEY
http://www.talkleft.com/story/2007/3/18/111740/107

[The Count]

29. We were boiling in here listening - and wished Durbin had said: No, you be careful"

They are criminals and bullies and need someone to put them in their place!

[bdamomma]

35. they need to put in a place with cold steel bars!!

[gratuitous]

36. More of this administration's modus operandi

Remember that the press secretary (Fleischer I think it was) said that White House reporters should be careful about what they write, because those articles "have been noted in this building." Later, I think it was McClellan, flat out said that reporters should watch what they write. This administration often falls back on veiled and not-so-veiled threats when they're being called to account. When challenged, they lie and say that they're just protecting the troops, or fighting for national security, or some other such dodge, but both sides know that a threat was issued and received. How the threatened party reacts, however, might change when his name is preceded by "Senator."

Oh, and Mr. Gonzales? It's the Senate's constitutional duty to advise and consent to the appointment of U.S. Attorneys. Perhaps the constitution is another "quaint" document in your mind, but believe me, a lot of citizens would disagree with you.

[bdamomma]

37. another thing comes to mind to me, is what I heard a long time ago

is how someone wanted to talk to bush and Condi said don't get him upset. Weird really weird, * has some issues.

[grasswire]

38. weasel talk

Don't criticize the career employees, criticize me.

But watch out! When you attack me, you are attacking career employees!

[hvn_nbr_2]

42. AGAG

Not knowing what this is, I googled it and found:
Agag, king of the Amelikites
Africa Grantmakers Affinity Group
As Good As Gold
Algebraic Geometry and Algebraic Groups--a conference at a Danish university
The Agag gerbil
Ah, there it is, halfway down the google's second page, "Attorney General Alberto Gonzales." Now I finally know what you're talking about.

[bobthedrummer]

45. kick

[bobthedrummer]

46. This apparatchik did issue a thinly veiled threat to Sen. Durbin

then had a meeting with Sen. Specter during the lunch break.

The threat came out as an overreaction to the very obvious extreme dedication of every loyal Bushie to keeping Karl Rove and the White House political operatives protected.

These are fascists and criminals that are under the influence of some type of evil cultish fear that most of US are now immune to.

Since their tactics and techniques don't work on US anymore they threaten US Senators.


That's my take on this extraordinary exchange.