Obama: I'll end don't-ask, don't-tell . . . that was a campaign promise too.

[Bluebear]

And all of a sudden everybody is being sold the bill of goods from corporate headquarters that Obama PROMISED to send these 50,000 troops into Afghanistan. And that we weren't "listening". Holy cannoli.

[Horse with no Name]

1. A little hope and change for your holiday season Bluebear

the hope turned out to be "Hope nobody was listening too closely" and the change is the "cha-ching" in the pockets of the corporations.

[Bluebear]

6. I guess "Hope nobody was listening too closely" didn't fit on the signs.

:silly:

[Neecy]

2. "My health insurance reform plan will not include a mandate"

Funny the promises that he actually follows through on...

[LooseWilly]

23. Yeah, I really liked that promise.

"If they fuck up the reform they eventually come up with, at least I'll be able to continue to just not have any fucked up insurance..." I told myself.

Ahh well... under the bus with the independent contractors too... :hi:

[bluestateguy]

3. It will end

Most likely by way of the 2011 fiscal year defense authorization bill, which has to pass.

Plans are already in the works.

[Freddie Stubbs]

4. Did he give a specific date?

:shrug:

[Bluebear]

7. hahahahaha is this one of those "It's only been ONE YEAR" posts?

[FLAprogressive]

8. I do believe so.

[Horse with no Name]

9. I wish there was a bluedog underground where folks could go

where they might fit in with each other a little easier. Hell CU or FR is a better fit for them than THIS.

[Renew Deal]

12. What's wrong with that?

:shrug:

[Freddie Stubbs]

27. No, this is one of those looking for specific facts posts

[Oregone]

5. Renegotiating NAFTA with fairer labor & environmental standards was too

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20080306/nafta_leak_080306?s_name=&no_ads=

[Vincardog]

10. If you did not hear him say he would embroil us in an endless occupation in Afghanistan then you

were not listening :crazy: :dunce:.
If you heard him promise to end DADT renegotiate NAFTA and not tax health care benefits
Then you are either
1) A hater
2) want a pony
3) expect him to do everything NOW
4) Don't understand the political realities of this complex world.

I say BS. Why the hell is not candidate OBAMA running our country?

[Renew Deal]

11. Obama promises kept: 55 Broken 7

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises

I think he's doing quite well in the promises kept department.

And the plan is to repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" next calendar year (2010).

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/promise/293/call-for-repeal-of-dont-ask-dont-tell-policy/

[Bluebear]

13. Wonderful, now it's a football score. What about those 7 broken promises?

Weren't we LISTENING?!?!?!

[Renew Deal]

14. I don't know. We're you?

[Bluebear]

15. Go peddle your one-liners elsewhere.

:shrug:

[Renew Deal]

16. Obama is up by 7 touchdowns

:D

[noamnety]

17. Perhaps you shouldn't have included the link.

You boiled it down to:

Promises kept: 55
broken: 7

Link clickers will see:


* Promise Kept 55
* Compromise 14
* Promise Broken 7
* Stalled 17
* In the Works 163
* Not yet rated 259

[FLAprogressive]

18. some of the "In the Works" promises are actually opposed by the administration

now....like FISA reform.

[noamnety]

25. Yep. They aren't going to happen.

1/4 way through his term, 10 percent of promises were kept so far. 90%, not so much.

I expect that rate to go down, not up, as we get closer to 2010 elections, and even more then as he gets closer to reelection.

[Renew Deal]

20. Obama looks even better when you look at that.

232 of 515 promises kept, compromised, or in the works in less than a year. That's pretty amazing.

[noamnety]

24. "In the works" doesn't mean squat.

DADT is probably considered by some to be "in the works" if there's a study going on.

And "compromised" could be good or awful. See the CEO bailout. You might consider that a promise kept. Me, not so much.

Well, actually, I take that back. I'm guessing he did promise that to someone.

[FLAprogressive]

26. "in the works" could mean that some member of congress filed a bill

whoop de doo.

[Ignis]

28. Ridiculously disingenuous. (nt)

[struggle4progress]

19. It has to go through Congress. Has either Armed Services committee held hearings yet?

[TexasObserver]

21. Recommend

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[chimpymustgo]

29. He promised 2 brigades: 6-10,000 more troops. He broke all his other promises, whiy not this one?

[Bolo Boffin]

43. "at least two brigades"

That's what he actually said. Please get complete contexts of your quotes, kthxbai.

[Fumesucker]

30. All campaign promises are equal..

But some are more equal than others.

[Bluebear]

31. Especially when it comes to corporatist warmongering.

[donheld]

32. Yea, I'm feeling punked what can I say

[1]

33. y'all get that dadt can never be overturned during a war, right?

ain't never going to happen...

[Starry Messenger]

36. Why not?

We need the troops now more than ever. :shrug:

[1]

37. because even though the vast majority here support that?

the vast majority in the military does not.

and that is why it will not change. not now. and not for the foreseeable future.

sorry to be the voice of what is. but it is what it is...

[Starry Messenger]

38. The military follows orders.

It's not their job to question orders. Or do you have some precedent for them doing so?

[1]

39. heh. and the military issues orders. that must be followed. show me this order...

this order will not be issued. therefore, this order will not be followed.

are you that blind?

[FarLeftFist]

34. DADT repeal will be part of the 2011 defense budget bill...

So I've heard somewhere.

[1]

35. no. it will not. you heard wrong. sorry...

[FarLeftFist]

40. Quick google search....

http://www.towleroad.com/2009/11/dont-ask-dont-tell-repeal-to-be-on-2011-defense-budget-bill.html

[1]

41. well, there you go. a "site with homosexual tendencies" must be considered sacrosanct...

of course.

why not.

[FarLeftFist]

44. First one that popped up. How about this one....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4142039

[1]

45. and this one is the "washington blade". look bud, it isn't about what y'all think...

its about what the military thinks.

this is not the time to fuck with what the military thinks. we are in a war. or two.

dadt is the law of the land for the foreseeable future.

like that, don't like that, its just the way it is going to be...

deal with it.

[Bolo Boffin]

42. Obama campaigned on concentrating on Afghanistan.

That wasn't just campaign rhetoric.

Unlike the DADT promise appears to have been so far.

[1]

46. bluey! i am so glad to see you back, my buddy! booyah!

[TexasObserver]

47. In his defense, he did have to spend a lot of timing picking that dog.

And the beer summit.

And time for keeping the health insurance industry happy.

Apparently, the promise to send more troops to Afghanistan is the only one he's definitely going to make good on.