The Obamaphobe here at work

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got back from lunch. He spent his lunch hour looking for ammo because he is convinced Obama and Pelosi are coming for his guns. He was bemoaning the fact that "hollow point bullets are over $1 each" and that "you couldn't hardly never find them anywheres."

After my brain got through from cramping due to the grammar he had just used, I asked how expensive it should be to kill a human being. I said, "if you're the worst shot in the world and it takes you $10 to kill a scary Democrat, isn't that a pretty good deal?" He told me when 'it all'(*) went down, not to ask him for shelter and protection. What a tragic figure this guy is.

Just wanted to vent a little. Most of the right wingers here have largely warmed up to Obama. But this guy wraps himself in an inpenetrable cloak of ignorance.

(*) "it all", by the way, is the impending race war. I'll have to keep checking the LBN page to see when this race war breaks out I've been hearing about for 20+ years now.

[unpossibles]

1. the unintentional irony being that these guys will be who start the alleged race war

because they suddenly find being a minority sucks*, and instead of trying to deal with it they get all violent.


* keep in mind that by this time, being a racial minority probably will have no actual change in their lives, other than them feeling constantly scared of "the other" instead of being smugly in the majority. I don't foresee the so-called "white (male) race" ever being enslaved or being put through half of the crap they dish out on everyone else, but of course they assume that everyone is an asshole just like they are.

[Gold Metal Flake]

4. +1

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5. Good point.

Also, I'm speaking from Memphis, which has a black/white racial angle attached to everything. It gets so old and tiresome. Almost everyone I meet will take a smile and a greeting and return it in kind. I think most people just want to get along and be left alone, instead of being immersed in hate and antipathy all the time.

[Warpy]

2. Tell HR that he's talking about killing Democrats

They need to know they have a potential problem on their hands.

Chances are the guy is a total weenie who's henpecked at home and only talks big around people he knows are too polite to pop him, but you just never know.

[Kittycat]

3. I have to second this..

Plus, where is the ammo he bought? At work? In his car on work property? Craziness.

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7. He was almost fired a month ago

for bringing a new gun to work to show it off. Everyone he showed it to got pretty nervous because he really is a paranoid and all-around angry guy. The boss walked him out to his car, made him put it in his trunk and had a closed-door meeting with him for about 20 minutes.

In his defense though, this time he wasn't talking about killing Democrats or bringing ammo to work. He was just shopping for ammo at lunch and complaining about the prices and scarcity.

Still, I think I will make sure the owners here are aware of the situation. Good suggestion. This is definitely the kind of guy who could pop off and do some damage.

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11. I know a lot of gun owners who are upset abut the ammo shortage...

and the expense.

But the shortage is easing up here in northern Florida.

I have no fear of the Democrats successfully pushing draconian gun laws anytime soon. The leadership will occasionally make noises to appease the very liberal anti-gun segment of the party and give them hope for future assault weapons bans or national registration of all firearms or half a dozen other "feel good" schemes that would prove useless.

Any attempt to pass such laws would doom the Democrats to losing a lot of seats in Congress at the the midterm elections.

There are 80 million gun owners in the United states and one out of every two households has at least one firearm. Why piss off a group that sizable?

Obama is no fool.

[WatchWhatISay]

6. Charles Manson talked about it in the late 60's

Helter Skelter, and all that

[hypocrisyandlies]

8. Best part is...

People like him are the ones responsible for how expensive bullets are and for how hard they are to find. They started buying bullets and guns up the second Obama was elected and now there is a shortage. Which means prices go up. It's simple economics.

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9. It might be useless but you could explain to him that the NRA...

often gives Democrats high ratings.

Show him this list of 2006 ratings for Congressional office holders.

http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3492

And you might explain to him that MANY Democrats are gun owners and support the Second Amendment. Not all are hunters, many own firearms for self defense and have concealed carry permits.



edited for spelling mistake

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10. That is good stuff. Thank you so much.

I'm filing this one away for the inevitable future discussion he and I will have about it. Thank you again.

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12. The Governor of New Mexico, Bill Richardson...

who ran for President in the Democratic primary is a stanch supporter of the Second Amendment and has a concealed carry permit.

In 2003, Richardson backed and signed legislation creating a permit system for New Mexicans to carry concealed handguns. He applied for and received a concealed weapons permit, though by his own admission he seldom carries a gun.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Richardson



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Jerry Brown, the Attorney General of California and a possible future governor, recently surprised many liberal Democrats.

Gun opponents up in arms as Jerry Brown aids NRA
Monday, November 23, 2009

It may come as a surprise to many of his Democratic supporters, but Attorney General and gubernatorial hopeful Jerry Brown has gone to bat for the National Rifle Association.

Last year, the high court struck down a ban on handguns in Washington, D.C., ruling for the first time that the Second Amendment's right to bear arms applies to individuals who keep a gun at home for self-defense. But the court made it clear the ruling applied only to the District of Columbia, a federal enclave.

Now, gun advocates are challenging Chicago's handgun ban, asking the Supreme Court to rule that the Second Amendment equally applies to the states. And there was no shortage of states - 34 in all - jumping on the bandwagon in support of the court hearing the case.

In July, before the court agreed to take the case, Brown went so far as to file his own friend-of-the-court brief asking that Chicago's gun ban be overturned - arguing that if the court doesn't act, "California citizens could be deprived of the constitutional right to possess handguns in their homes." emphasis added

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/11/22/BAFI1AO83D.DTL#ixzz0YTPcXTNE

In case he doesn't know who Jerry Brown is:

Edmund Gerald "Jerry" Brown, Jr. (born April 7, 1938) is an American politician. He is a former governor of the State of California and the current Attorney General. Brown has had a lengthy political career spanning terms on the Los Angeles Community College Board of Trustees (1969-1971), as California Secretary of State (1971-1975), as Governor of California (1975-1983), as chair of the California Democratic Party (1989-1991), the Mayor of Oakland (1998-2006), and the Attorney General of California (2007-present). He unsuccessfully sought the Democratic nominations for president in 1976, 1980, and 1992, and was an unsuccessful Democratic nominee for the United States Senate in 1982. Since Brown's terms in office are not covered by the term limits that came into effect in 1990, he is not barred from running for Governor again, and has indicated that he plans to run for the office again in 2010.<1>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Brown

Your co-worker has to realize that Obama is a politician from Chicago and was the junior senator from Illinois. Chicago is possibly the most anti-gun city in this country. His chances of ever attaining political office higher than dog catcher would have been nonexistent if he had been pro-gun.

I'm not trying to say that he will suddenly transform into a pro-gun President, but as shrewd of a politician as he is, I believe that he understands that pushing an anti-gun agenda will cripple his ability to pass far more important legislation such as healthcare.

You might tell you friend that Republicans use gun control to get voters to the polls, but they will sell gun owners out in a heartbeat. Let's look at the record:

Don’t Blame Liberals for Gun Control

by Richard Poe


NEWSMAX.COM - Anti-gun crusaders seem worried about the advent of a Republican administration. Heaven knows why. Republicans, in recent years, have managed to do nearly as much damage to the Second Amendment as Democrats.

In 1969, journalist William Safire asked Richard Nixon what he thought about gun control. "Guns are an abomination," Nixon replied. According to Safire, Nixon went on to confess that, "Free from fear of gun owners' retaliation at the polls, he favored making handguns illegal and requiring licenses for hunting rifles."

It was President George Bush, Sr. who banned the import of "assault weapons" in 1989, and promoted the view that Americans should only be allowed to own weapons suitable for "sporting purposes."

It was Governor Ronald Reagan of California who signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street." The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners.

Twenty-four years later, Reagan was still pushing gun control. "I support the Brady Bill," he said in a March 28, 1991 speech, "and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay."

One of the most aggressive gun control advocates today is Republican mayor Rudolph Giuliani of New York City, whose administration sued 26 gun manufacturers in June 2000, and whose police commissioner, Howard Safir, proposed a nationwide plan for gun licensing, complete with yearly "safety" inspections.

Another Republican, New York State Governor George Pataki, on August 10, 2000, signed into law what The New York Times called "the nation’s strictest gun controls," a radical program mandating trigger locks, background checks at gun shows and "ballistic fingerprinting" of guns sold in the state. It also raised the legal age to buy a handgun to 21 and banned "assault weapons," the sale or possession of which would now be punishable by seven years in prison.

Gun control crusaders argue that the Republicans are simply yielding to grassroots pressure, to gain political advantage. But polls show little evidence of such pressure.
http://reformed-theology.org/html/issue11/dont_blame_liberals.htm

And to finish let's look at what G W Bush (Bush the Junior) said about the assault weapons ban during the Presidential debate with John Kerry in 2004:

Q: You said if Congress would vote to extend the ban on assault weapons, that you’d sign the legislation, but you did nothing to encourage Congress to extend it.

BUSH: I did think we ought to extend the assault weapons ban and was told the bill was never going to move. I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be able to own a gun. I believe in background checks. The best way to protect our citizens from guns is to prosecute those who commit crimes with guns.
Source: Third Bush-Kerry debate, in Tempe AZ Oct 13, 2004
http://www.ontheissues.org/celeb/George_W__Bush_Gun_Control.htm