I guess there are some things that still need to be said.

[Plaid Adder]

I kind of gave up writing abotu the war after Bush exited. But I guess since Obama is now determined to plow millions of dollars and thousdands of lives into "finishing the job," there are still some things that need to be said:

This kind of job cannot be "finished." It can only be abandoned. A nation-state is not a muffin; there is no moment at which you can say that it is 'done' and take it out of the oven. Likewise you cannot destroy "al Qaeda;" you can only destroy that portion of al Qaeda that exists at a given moment in time. It, or something like it, will be back after you're gone. It may take 10 years or 20, but eventually, the backlash will come.

So I'm not sure what the thinking is on this. I'm not even sure how it makes sense politically. Are we just trying to prove, at this point, that we really, REALLY tried?

Bush was an ideologically blinded idiot being manipulated by people who thought they were smarter than he was but were often proved tragically wrong. I don't know WTH Obama's excuse is.

ah well. I guess we'll hear it tonight.

The Plaid Adder

[Cleita]

1. Nice to see you posting again and you are spot on as always.

K&R

[leftstreet]

2. K&R

[CaliforniaPeggy]

3. You reflect my thinking perfectly.

K&R

[cali]

4. I can understand you're needing to say this

but it's hardly as if it hasn't been said here several dozen times just in the last couple of days.

[Hannah Bell]

10. so what? not like you've never said something said before.

[sailor65]

5. Well said.......

definitely worth a rec.

[FiveGoodMen]

6. Won't be million of dollars, it'll be Billions. Lots and lots of billions.

[n2doc]

15. And this is why it won't end until we are bankrupt

Too many greedy pigs making money off of death. They were slowed down briefly by the end of the cold war, but they've found their new forever war that can never be won.

[TheCowsCameHome]

16. Key word - Bankruptcy. OBL's goal will have been attained.

That is a very big word in this whole mix.

[AndyA]

7. Beware the Obama version of the Bushies - who protect and defend Saint Barack

no matter what.

Promises made during the campaign were never intended to be kept.

He's doing all he can do.

(Insert excuse of choice here.)

I'm glad we have Obama vs. McCain (another defense..."...so you'd rather have McCain/Palin?" :eyes:) but I don't think he's everything he promised us he was going to be. Which makes him just another politician. But there's still time, I guess we'll see.

The war in Afghanistan is his, now. The blood of the dead will be on his hands now.

[polpilot]

8. Obama will look 'serious', (Our resolve is strong bullshit) and will join Satan

& Co. He'll prove tonight that he won't work or committ to healthcare for the sick but will do the bidding of the war machine and the military industrial complex...and he'll be the brunt of the jokes at the single malt scotch toasting worldwide tonight. As he should be.

[Demeter]

9. Obama Has No Excuse

not even a Condoleeza.

[Individualist]

11. +1

No excuse can justify prolonging the occupation.

[Cleita]

17. I dunno about that. He's got Rahm Emmanuel whispering in his ear.n/t

[unc70]

18. I think of Rahm in the context of The Coneheads

Doesn't change anything, just gives me a little chuckle after I am already really POed.

[Demeter]

19. I've Seen The Movie Twice, and I Don't Follow

Because I sincerely doubt that Rahm ever doubts himself and his actions.

[unc70]

20. Rahm sometimes reminds me Eli Turnbull

Not of any importance, just a personal chuckle.

[branders seine]

12. it's the powers that be

being the power

[MichiganVote]

13. Why is it happening? We are moving from Shock Doctrine to Jock Doctrine that's why.

[bluesmail]

14. I myself am going to wait to hear what he has to say. EOM

[Ignis]

21. Here's hoping you'll post an after-speech analysis.

:hi:

[rhett o rick]

22. Right on. rec. nt

[Hydra]

23. Cui Bono?

As long as they continue to benefit, shall we see change? I doubt it.

[slay]

24. Yeah I heard it tonight alright

now i just need to clean the shit out of my ears. Your read on it is spot-on Plaid Adder - I am disgusted with Obama over this.

[eridani]

25. His thinking is probably like that of LBJ--

--who escalated Vietnam because he didn't want to be attacked as "soft on defense."