Gore/Obama 08'

[Dawgs]

Run Al Run!! (and please pick Obama as your running mate).

[illinoisprogressive]

1. that would be a dream ticket. But I really doubt Gore will run. Why should he?

[panader0]

4. I agree that it's a dream ticket

It's a ticket that would win big. Al should run because this country, this world NEEDS him.

[driver8]

2. I always thought Gore/Clark would have been a great team.

I don't think Gore is going to run, though.

Who could blame him? Whoever is our next President is going to have to clean up junior's mess.

[John Q. Citizen]

5. I think that would be our strongest ticket. I also think Al is going to run.

[John Q. Citizen]

3. Which of Obamas solutions to issues do you particularly like?

I have read his "Issues" on his web site, but most aren't very clear, and most aren't much different than the status quo.

I do like his legislative proposal to make defrauding or attempting to suppress the vote illegal.

But his views on funding the illegal occupation, his views on using nuclear weapons against Iran, his views on health-care don't really exicte me.

So which of his views are you excited about?

[jobycom]

6. Who cares, as VP his main task would be to motivate people.

He's good at that. Plus his energy is infectious. That's not a bad ticket.

[John Q. Citizen]

8. I care. Voting for image is not my thing, I want some substance, too.

[jobycom]

11. Were you claiming Obama has no substance? I missed that. In that case

I disagree with you. I agree that his positions aren't solidified, and that many people who believe he is either a liberal or a moderate are basing that on what they want him to be, not on what he is. I thought that was your point. I would go farther and say his lack of experience is a big, maybe fatal, issue for me. But Obama has shown me in his fundraising ability, his handling of the media, and his ability to excite a crowd that he has substance and leadership skills. Plus, he takes tremendous initiative, running for the presidency after such a short time, and making a serious go of it. That's a strong quality in a leader.

Being VP is much like being a Super Senator--you are given tasks by the president to create legislation or perform diplomatic duties, or whatever. You follow through with those tasks, keeping your president's ideology more than yours at hand. And you smile and wave for the camera. I think Obama would be excellent at that. And I think he would quickly learn to handle the power of the White House. There's always the danger that he would become president before he is ready, but I see above that you liked Clark as a VP, and (while i know there is tremendous love for Clark with some people) I have serious qualms about him as a president, too.

Just my thoughts. Peace. No disrespect of your opinions intended, just disagreement. :)

[John Q. Citizen]

14. I'm saying I want to know where he stands on the issues Same for Hillary.

I don't agree with the Edwards health care plan, but I appreciate that he actually has a detailed plan.

I didn't say Omaba has no substance, I said his issues page at his site has little substance.

I'm not voting for anyone who won't tell me what their stand is on a number of issues. i won't nessesarily agree on every issue, but I'm not going to vote for charisma over policy.

[jobycom]

23. Ah.

Sounds reasonable. I get less excited about specific plans because I believe all plans will be altered once they hit Congress anyway. I'm more excited about a candidate I think can get a plan passed. But I do need to at least know where a candidate stands on an issue, and have a sense of what they will compromise on and what is core and immutable in their ideology. Obama so far is light to me in those regards, but as a VP candidate, I don't see that as crucial. Gore would develop the plan, Obama would use his abilities to help sell it. That's why I said I didn't care, in my first post.

[BlooInBloo]

7. I'm down.

[cooolandrew]

9. I'd feel it more likely he'd pick Hillary. I mean just in life you'd pick friends.

Either her or he'd pick Richardson, if you look at it he doesn't know Obama so he'd most likely go for old allies.

[John Q. Citizen]

16. Do you have any evidence of a Gore/Hillary friendship? I've never seen that

mentioned anywhere.

[NYCGirl]

24. From what I hear, Senator Clinton and VP Gore are not friends. NT

[SharonRB]

27. I seriously doubt he'd pick Hillary

I also think a lot of people would be turned off by a Gore/Clinton ticket. Personally, I'd be okay with it, but I think it could be a problem for us.

[Stephanie]

10. I'll vote for that!

K&R :HI:

[ThomWV]

12. I'd Vote For that and much more importantly - I'd Donate To That Ticket

[Tyler Durden]

13. Gore/1970 Candy Apple Red Pontiac GTO

I don't care if Gore develops schizophrenia and BOTH of his personalities run.

[lutefisk]

15. That has to be one of the lowest mpg cars ever made.

He'd never do it. Maybe a Hybrid?

[Tyler Durden]

31. It's a reference to the "National Lampoon Radio Dinner" album

They have a bit with Richard Nixon in 1972 running against a 1970 GTO. He's losing in the polls, so Kissenger has him dolled up like a pimp car, and they trade Agnew in for a truck, so it's the "Nixon/Mack '72" campaign.

[DefenseLawyer]

29. Gore/Well Stocked Deli Tray

has my full support in '08

[Tyler Durden]

32. Gore/1 pound of small curd cottage cheese.

Fine by me.

[DFW]

17. If, by any chance, Al gets the nomination

I think that scenario is a fair bet.

[earth mom]

18. You mean the Obama who wants to use Coal for energy?

NO THANKS. :thumbsdown:

Give me GORE/RFK Jr.

FYI:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x709774

[DFW]

22. Yes, that Obama

His view would be subservient to that of Gore, and Gore would have
eight years to turn him around. Obama is famous for his ability to
listen as well as talk. If he were VP and Gore president, he'd
listen for sure to what Gore had to say.

I like RFK, Jr., too, even talk to him occasionally, but he hasn't
really made any noises about running for national office, and I take
him at his word until he says otherwise. In addition to that, his
voice problems would be a sticking point in a media-crazed country
such as our own. I think he is as courageous as hell for doing ROF
as it is.

[never cry wolf]

26. Yes, that Obama

Don't take a posters word on what he saw in a magazine when he did not provide any links so you can interpret what he said yourself.

Senator Obama is the lead Democratic cosponsor of the Coal-to-Liquid Fuel Promotion Act, along with Senator Bunning. It must be a national priority to improve fuel economy and expand use of renewable fuels and other low-carbon or carbon-neutral fuels, but coal is currently America’s most abundant domestic energy source and will be a critical resource for many years to come. One of America’s largest coal beds lies beneath Illinois and neighboring states. Senator Obama believes that any new coal technologies must be developed strictly in the context of anticipated mandatory carbon control legislation, using technologies to reduce carbon emissions. This bill provides incentives for the development of this diesel technology that can transform coal into cleaner diesel fuel, while encouraging the sequestration of carbon emissions and reducing American reliance on importing fossil fuels.

In addition, Senator Obama has been working within Congress and with the State of Illinois to bring FutureGen, the nation’s first near-zero emissions coal power plant, to Illinois. The billion dollar project would use Illinois coal in generating electricity and hydrogen gas while sequestering carbon emissions.

http://obama.senate.gov/issues/energy/index.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=709774&mesg_id=714090

[earth mom]

28. If Obama isn't looking into Solar & Wind Power, then he's just another DINO.

So please spare me the long involved defense because I'm not interested.

Obama needs to start serving the PEOPLE and NOT corporate interests like he is most obviously doing. :puke:

[never cry wolf]

30. He has advocated alternate energy sources

Not just fuels. But the fact is that it will take generations at the minimum to switch to a total electrically based economy and in the meantime we will still need to burn fuels. I have seen estimates that said Solar and Wind at most could supply 1% - 2% of the nations energy needs.

But, apparently your mind is made up.

If, perchance, you'd like to learn a little more about how Obama has been serving the PEOPLE very well indeed, I suggest the following:

http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2006/10/barack_obama.html

[Tyler Durden]

33. Screw "Illinois Coal"

The rest of the country has cornholed Michigan on any kind of support for the auto industry, other than buying SUV's like they were hotcakes up until a couple of years ago.

Every time Obama mentions "Illinois Coal" I want to punch something. Coal makes oil look like mineral water.

[Atman]

19. Yin and Yang...the environmentalist and the corporatist.

I guess someone can get behind that...not me, though. Obama's a coal guy, thinks coal is a "green" alternative to oil, has virtually no environmental policy in his position statements. I'd vote for the Gore part...Obama would just be coming along for the ride.

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[Poiuyt]

20. That ticket could conceivably give us 16 years of Democratic rule in the WH

[bklyncowgirl]

21. Sounds first rate to me. Now all we have to do is convince Al.

Oh yeah and maybe Obama might not be too thrilled at taking second place. Well, a girl can dream.

[SharonRB]

25. Gore/anybody-but-LIEberman

That's my ticket! I don't care who his running mate is, as long as he runs. There are a lot of good options -- Obama, Richardson, Clark, Feingold, even Hillary (but we know that will never happen).

Run, Al, run! We need you.

[Pastiche423]

34. My dream ticket!