A Very Bush Like Speech

[erpowers]

I will start this post off by saying that I support sending more troops to Afghanistan. However, I did not expect the speech would be so Bush like. There were the numerous mentions of 9/11 (3 open and 1 slightly hidden). There were other instances when Obama called for unity. Maybe it was just me, but it seemed like Obama was doing a hidden everyone needs to support the war. In addition, it seemed that Obama had some of his national security ideas, history, and facts wrong. This speech reminded me so much of President Bush. At some point I thought you could have either morphed Obama into Bush or just replaced Obama with Bush. So, what do others think?

[muntrv]

1. Except Obama didn't kill the English language like Dimson did.

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[babylonsister]

10. Did you support dim son, the guy who went AWOL from war? Or Cheney,

who had 5-6 deferments?

Weak tea, slvrd4, you need to find your bridge!

[FarLeftFist]

12. When was the last time we had a President....

That actually did serve in the military.

[spotbird]

15. JFK? nt

[MissDeeds]

20. Carter? n/t

[RoccoR5955]

17. Jimmy Carter n/t

[frylock]

19. poppy bush..

before that, James Earl Carter.

[Frank Cannon]

28. Jimmy Carter was an officer on a submarine

But I don't think he was in combat. JFK and Bush the First saw combat.

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[NYC Liberal]

25. LOL nobody gives a shit about the thoroughly disgraced ex-president

AWOL he was, and AWOL he always will be.

[MineralMan]

30. Please go away now.

Bush is no longer President.

[sharp_stick]

22. And here's another newbie

with a fucking post like this.

[MineralMan]

26. You are too new here to be making this kind of statement.

Also too eager to trash President Obama. I won't speculate on your reasons.

[babylonsister]

3. Bullshit. Period. Maybe the truth hurts after so many years of being

lied to.

[JuniperLea]

9. Bears repeating...

We were all for Bush pulling out of Iraq and putting troops into Afghanistan... now that Obama is doing it, it's somehow a bad thing.

Obama redirected the 9/11 issue. It had to be done.

[frylock]

24. do you have a mouse in your pocket?

WE were all for bush pulling out of iraq and putting troops into afghanistan?! some of us were and are for getting the fuck out of both, posthaste.

we were ALL against bush using troops as backdrops. we were ALL against bush's rhetoric and invocation of 9/11. now that obama is doing it, it's somehow a good thing.

[FarLeftFist]

4. After 8 yrs of Bush's mongering

It's hard to speak about this war and not sound like Bush.

[JuniperLea]

5. How superficial that is...

We were all for Bush pulling out of Iraq and putting troops into Afghanistan... now that Obama is doing it, it's somehow a bad thing.

He redirected the 9/11 issue. Had you paid attention, you may have grasped that.

[MineralMan]

21. Yup. Apparently, in not listening, they didn't hear the actual plan

to withdraw. Nobody seemed to be listening here, except a bare few. Pity.

[JuniperLea]

34. If he doesn't stick to his plan...

I will be pissed. But unlike so many here, I'll actually know why!

:rofl:

[MineralMan]

37. Yeah. We'll all be watching.

Lots of hateful people here tonight. I think I'll log off until tomorrow.

[lies and propaganda]

6. just more verbose and less drunk

I said the same thing.

[Seen the light]

7. Obama will go down in defeat in 2012 to anyone but Palin

Can't say I'll be that disappointed when it happens. What a failure of a year he's had.

[whyverne]

8. Well at least we finally got to hear a Bush speech done

the right way! No stumblings and mumblings.

[boobooday]

11. No, it was totally different

It was full of detail and information.

[rwheeler31]

13. Much more careful than Bush, no comparison.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

16. All that was missing was the cowboy boots and the smirk.

[jpak]

27. delusional nonsense

and pathetic

:thumbsdown:

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. Which is how I would rate the new version of Bush's speech. Pathetic.

Delusional would be giving him credit for not knowing what he was saying. Unfortunately, he does know.

[jpak]

39. I know the difference between Bush and Obama

It is like Night and Day - and the undeluded can easily see the difference.

others unfortunately cannot...

[Oregone]

18. 9/11 9/11 9/11 Terror Victory!

[MineralMan]

23. What crap. This speech did not resemble Bush at all

The facts are the facts. The plan is completely different than the endless war Bush had in mind.

[lib2DaBone]

33. Huh? We talking about the same speech?

[Fire1]

29. Not by a long shot. n/t

[lib2DaBone]

31. CBS News.. This is Now Obama's War.....

Way to go Obama.. you took a national mandate for peace and pissed it away to appease the Rethuglicans...

[Cleita]

35. Oh really? I didn't notice the grammar gaffs, malapropisms and lies.

He spoke very plainly and directly. His audience is considered a hostile audience so he was very subdued and conservative in the words he chose.

[Odin2005]

36. Nonsense.

Shrub used 9/11 to push a BS war in Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11. Afghanistan certainly had something to do with 9//. You are comparing apples to oranges.

[notheyrejustwrong]

38. This was about Pakistan as much as Afghanistan.

This is the war in Afghanistan that Bush DIDN'T do. But after 8 years of wrong it's hard for some people to admit that the correct thing to do is to do the war right.
Also, the President said that NATO will be supplying more troops.

Afghanistan is a big shit sandwich that got served by Bushco.
Yes, it is icredibly easy for me sitting in my mom's basement eating Cheetos to support sending people's husbands, wives, sons and daughters to fight a shit war, but THAT was the hand the President was dealt and I believe he is doing the right thing.

And for the knee-jerk negative reaction to Obama mentioning 9/11, it was ABSOLUTELY essential to framing the argument.

[Toucano]

40. Not at all.

It was thoughtful and reasoned.

I may disagree with the conclusion, but it was well presented.