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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:01 AM
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So should we go into Somalia too?
A-q has more of a presence in Somalia at this time than in Afghanistan. And where would they go if we did that? It's like chasing ghosts. The way to defeat A-q is not through military force.
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VMI Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:05 AM
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1. The Bush Doctrine could be applied if they pose a potential threat to the United States.
Much like it is being applied in Afghanistan.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:06 AM
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2. No way!
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:06 AM
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3. Of COURSE not.
One look at a map will tell you why.

As in real estate, political influence is all about location.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:08 AM
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4. Give Al Queda a hug!
That will work!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:22 AM
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9. yeah, because that's what I said. Not.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:09 AM
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5. At this point....
They'd have to round up hunters during deer season to ship them over there. Our military hasn't been this broken since Vietnam.

Do you know what might have redeemed last night's debacle even a little bit? If he had announced that he's closing some of the hundreds and hundreds of overseas military bases we have in order to slow down the rotations of the same people and units into the ME. If he had even made a small strike at our imperialistic outposts I might have had less disgust and dismay this morning.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:10 AM
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6. "It's like chasing ghosts" b/c our govt isn't actually chasing what they claim to be
Phony "war."
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:17 AM
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7. Think we are already there ain't we?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/08/world/main2335451.shtml

MOGADISHU, Somalia, Jan. 9, 2007

U.S. Strikes In Somalia Reportedly Kill 31

Official Says Dead Were Civilians From Village Targeted In Hunt For Alleged Al Qaeda Suspects

(CBS/AP) Attack helicopters strafed suspected al Qaeda fighters in southern Somalia on Tuesday, witnesses said, following two days of air strikes by U.S. forces — the first U.S. offensives in the African country since 18 American soldiers were killed here in 1993.

In Washington, a U.S. intelligence official said American forces killed five to 10 people in an attack on one target in southern Somalia believed to be associated with al Qaeda. The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the operation's sensitivity, said a small number of others present, perhaps four or five, were wounded.

The U.S. military is ready to carry out more strikes, CBS News national security correspondent David Martin reports. But whether it does will depend on getting good intelligence on the whereabouts of any al Qaeda operatives left alive.

A Somali lawmaker said 31 civilians, including a newlywed couple, died in Tuesday's assault by two helicopters near Afmadow, a town in a forested area close to the Kenyan border. The report could not be independently verified.

A Somali Defense Ministry official described the helicopters as American, but witnesses told The Associated Press they could not make out identification markings on the craft. Washington officials had no comment on the helicopter strike.

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http://www.netnomad.com/aydiidyounger.nyt.html

August 12, 1996

How a U.S. Marine Became a Warlord in Somalia

By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr.

OGADISHU, Somalia -- One of the many oddities in this battered capital is that a son of Gen. Mohamed Farrah Aidid, the Somali faction leader who humiliated the United States in 1993, was a naturalized American citizen, not to mention a U.S. Marine.

But that bizarre footnote took on a new dimension last weekend after the general died of gunshot wounds he had received in battle. His clan elders, meeting behind closed doors, selected the same 33-year-old son, Hussein Mohamed Farrah, to become the new president of Aidid's self-proclaimed republic.

It was a strange choice, politicians here say. Until a year ago, Farrah was living an obscure and mundane life in a Los Angeles suburb, going to school part time and working as a clerk in the West Covina engineering department for $9 a hour. The closest he had come to his father's way of life was when he served as a corporal in the Marine reserves.

Now Somalis throughout this war-weary country are waiting uneasily to see how the young warlord with the American accent will change the balance of power among the clan leaders who have carved Somalia up into what amounts to feudal kingdoms.

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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:17 AM
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8. not close enough to iran so it wont happen
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:50 AM
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10. yes....wait a minute,does Somalia have oil or gas deposits?
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:53 AM
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11. They have oil, don't they? :sarcasm: nt
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 11:32 AM
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14. Oil = always a great reason to get your war on. nt
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 10:55 AM
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12. DU has no stomach for any of it
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Shanti Mama Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 11:25 AM
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13. Obama did not take us into Iraq or Afghanistan
I may or may not agree with his decision re Afghanistan but people need to make a bit of sense, here. As I've said before "no war at any cost" is not always the best answer. Obama made a decision that he and many others will now have to live with. Let's get on with it.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:25 PM
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15. We are already there.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-02-09 12:26 PM
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16. Yay! More war!
First let's do Somalia, then Iran, and after that we could go to Palestine, and then Zimbabwe...

:sarcasm:
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