If you don't agree with Obama's Afghan troop escalation - why did you vote for him??

[cbdo2007]

He's been saying he was going to do this all along and you all supported him throughout.

Don't blame the supporters of the troop escalation for Obama's decision or somehow insinuate we're warmongers and should all enlist.

You should go enlist and you're just as much of a war supporter as any of the rest of us because you voted Obama into office.

Try doing one of two things please, either admit that you don't fully understand the circumstances behind Afghanistan but you trust Obama is doing what is best for the country and support him or shut the hell up and look in the mirror. If you didn't want the surge you shouldn't have voted for it...and yes, you DID vote for it.

[YOY]

1. Hey cbdo2007. Please tell us just what a win in Afghanistan is since you are clearly so wise.

I really want to know.

Then I want to bet you money on it. Lots of money. Most likely in Euros.

[cbdo2007]

11. If you don't know then it will be impossible for me to explain it to you. Feel free to do some

research though and enlighten yourself. It could help you to make better decisions in the future.

[YOY]

36. No really tell us. Then we'll bet hard cold cash on it. Nut up or shut up oh sage of sages.

n.t.

[YOY]

51. Stiiiiiiill waiting!

On you and every other pro-escalation person here to put their sweet sweet money down!

Clearly this is the easiest money you ever made!!!

[dysfunctional press]

57. "well if you don't know...I'M not going to tell you..."

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

you'll make someone a fine typical wife someday.

[YOY]

74. Stiiiiiilll waiting...tick tock tick tock...

n/t

[Mojambo]

2. Sarah motherfucking Palin. n/t

[NMDemDist2]

21. +1 not to mention the old guy who yells at clouds n/t

[Thickasabrick]

46. +100

[Hatchling]

54. +1000

[Political Heretic]

3. Because he wasn't mccain. He was wrong then. He's wrong now.

And we're not going to stop saying so.

[polichick]

4. What a ridiculous op - it's not as if ANYONE agrees with a candidate on EVERY issue. nt

[cbdo2007]

10. So escalating a war is pretty far down on your list of issues?

[polichick]

12. The other choice was "Bomb-bomb-bomb-Iran McShame," remember? nt

[DemBones DemBones]

22. You don't have to vote for a Republican or Democrat.

There were other choices.

[cbdo2007]

29. Maybe this person got a faulty ballot with only two options on it??

Bomb-Bomb-Bomb Iran

or

Bomb-Bomb-Bomb Afghanistan

Hmmmmm....what to choose....hmmmm.....

[DemBones DemBones]

42. That must be it!

:rofl:

[WhaTHellsgoingonhere]

19. Follow-up worse than OP

I can stop reading here.

[Bluebear]

26. The flamebait follow-up is rarely as good as the original

I like your name lol

[polichick]

33. True - I shouldn't have bothered with a response. nt

[QC]

This is really stupid, even by your very low standards.

It's also been said about a thousand times already by people far more intelligent and articulate than you.

Proud to unrec this pointless, boneheaded thread.

[cali]

5. this isn't rocket science. I voted for him DESPITE his Afghanistan

position, not because of it. I didn't forfeit my right to criticize him.

[AllentownJake]

6. Another plea by angry war cheer leaders to STFU

This one is not well reasoned or well written.

[Bluebear]

7. Thank you, but this talking point was well-covered yesterday,

Surely you don't think you are being original here?

[cbdo2007]

17. Hey, the blood is on your hands with this war so feel free to brush it off if you will...

and explain to all of our children why you didn't learn a lesson from Bush and voted for a warmonger.

[Bluebear]

20. Hey, go to hell.

[cbdo2007]

23. I'll see you there while we're all paying the price for this war we voted for.

[Bluebear]

24. OK. Very trollicious.

[Jazzgirl]

43. +1.

n/t

[blm]

73. Bush lied this country into war and there is no perfect choice to rectify the damage of last 8yrs

BUT....I will give Obama the 18 months he's looking for to achieve a ground situation that will allow for the withdrawal plan to be implemented.

[ThomWV]

8. Because I thought he'd do something about warantless wiretapping and other stuff

[Bluebear]

13. He did do something about warantless wiretapping, he embraced it

[Bolo Boffin]

28. Please, Bluebear, don't hurt them. n/t

[Bluebear]

34. :)

[The Straight Story]

9. several reasons: 1, politicians lie, since he hasn't fix dadt we figured he wouldn't send more troop

:evilgrin:

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

14. Because it's a two-party system... (Republican, Democrat, Stay at home)

Those are your three options. Repubs, Dems, or None.

It's quite possible to disagree with a few policies of a Candidate you support.
In a two-party system, if we only voted for people we WHOLLY supported then nobody would vote.

The whole logic behind the "You knew so why did you vote him" argument is absolute juvenile excrement - but not surprisingly par for intellectual discourse on DU lately.

[Phentex]

39. Wonder how many times this can be repeated

before it is understood.

[OneTenthofOnePercent]

65. Grab a Snickers (n/t)

[leftstreet]

15. Because he won the Democratic primary n/t

[Roland99]

16. He's already escalated things in Afghanistan. Now he's escalating the escalation.

[B2G]

18. You're either with us or against us.

Now *where* have I heard that before?

<thinking thinking>

[Bolo Boffin]

25. No, sorry, can't support this OP

People may have voted for him despite this. People DID vote for him despite this. And they have every right to be upset that he's following through on this promise (and more). I agree that no one should be surprised that he's doing this, and act betrayed by him for doing this, but being upset that he's doing it is very in-bounds if you disagree with the decision.

I find it especially sad that he puts off a lot of the reasons I did vote for him (gay rights, privacy issues), and yet follows through on things like this. Personally, I don't see any other better option for Afghanistan, but do wish we could get out.

[spoony]

27. I see another unit has been activated. nt

[Starry Messenger]

30. If you vote you get to complain.

That's been the rule for centuries. Don't know why DU members think there is a different social compact on DU.

[cbdo2007]

35. correction, that should read - "If you vote you get to complain for what you voted for"

It's fine if people complain, and would be a different story if this was some new thing that he came up with or if he decided to invade Argentina or something...but this Afghanistan stuff is literally something that he talked about throughout the whole election and has implemented exactly as he was expected to.

[Starry Messenger]

40. No--you aren't the maker of the new rules.

If that's your purity test for voting, then no one is ever going to vote. I can complain all I fucking want. I voted.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. I DIDN'T vote for Obama because I paid attention

during the campaign and I knew he'd be "meet the new boss, same as the old boss." I said that here more than once during the primaries.

I didn't vote for McCain, either.

[LWolf]

66. Exactly. nt

[tnlefty]

32. 1. I'm a Democrat. 2. The alternative was a repuke - not gonna

happen.

3. 'Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran', 'hundred years' McCain and his batshit crazy, not ready for primetime, not so bright, theocratic sidekick would've been much worse.

4. I believe(ed) that he's intelligent enough to realize that he was elected in a rebuke to the failed policies of W*. The electorate sent a clear message of being ready for that whole change thing.

5. Don't tell me to shut up as it won't work. I'm one of those uppity women.

6. I never supported any of these war disasters and it's not going to change now.

[Phentex]

37. ...

:applause:

Bravo!

[tnlefty]

53. Why, thank you...

:blush: I don't know why this is so hard to figure out. I'm the lefty liberal of the family and I have relatives who voted for W* then voted for Obama because they realized how disastrous W*'s war policies, etc. had been.

I met and worked with a guy on Obama's campaign who confessed to having voted for W* and was trying to reverse course. That whole change thing.

[AndyA]

38. Given the choices available to all of us at the time:

John McSame and NitWit Palin vs. Obama/Biden...I suppose a lot of people picked the lesser of two evils if they didn't support war.

I just find it interesting the promises Obama made that he's kept so far vs. the promises he hasn't kept. Do some research on that and see what turns up.

[Sebastian Doyle]

41. Because McCain (actually Palin because he would have died) or Hillary would have been even worse?

Hillary would have already obliterated Iran by now. McCain would have dropped dead, and Moosealini would have launched all the nukes and waited for Jesus to evacuate her.

[Blue_In_AK]

44. This is not a well thought-out post.

What was our option, Einstein?

[mike_c]

45. I didn't....

Don't blame me.... :rofl:

[treestar]

47. I don't have a problem with voting with him while not agreeing with it

But that would seem to indicate resignation rather than this sudden supposedly shocked passionate repeated posting calling Obama nothing more than Bush, corporate tool, etc.

Sort of resigned, hoping he's right, and still glad he's President rather than McNut - that would be a reasonable reaction.

[Thickasabrick]

48. This dumb justification just keeps popping up. It has been discredited

multiple times, but yet it still keeps popping up.

I will repeat since you obviously have not read the rebuttal to this lame justification - just because you vote for someone does not automatically make you a zombie that will follow every stupid decision a candidate makes. I have noticed several zombies who either did not get that memo or who just like being zombies.

He said a lot of things during his campaign that did not come to pass - that's what politicians do. But when they take office and actually make stupid decisions - all bets are off and it is our patriotic duty to voice our displeasure if we are displeased.

Telling people to "shut the hell up" is something one would expect to see at Free Republic during the Bush years.

[Atticus]

49. I was tempted to reply to one of your comments in response to a prior post, but I let it slide

as I'm trying to be more tolerant of differing opinions lately. But, here you are again, just a few lines down the board with your very own just as flawed post in which you again display your totally unjustified air of superiority.

Do you REALLY---I mean REALLY---believe that voting for a candidate means we support EVERY position taken by that candidate? If you do, please let all of us know ASAP because, while most of us have no problem with discussing issues with those who disagree with us, we try to draw the line at wasting time with actual honest-to-goodness fools who have somehow mastered using a keyboard.

I disagreed with Obama on IRAQ. I disagreed with Obama on FISA. I disagreed with Obama on rendition. But, I VOTED for him because, of the choices presented, he was clearly the far superior candidate. If the choice had been between Fred Phelps and John McCain, I would have voted for McCain.

See how that works?

Now, before you go all smartass again and ask me to do "one of two things", I'll ask you to do just one thing: Pull your head out of your ass.

[ima_sinnic]

72. notice that it apparently has fled the board & is not taking questions

we should have a "Dumbfuck Group" here

[shadowknows69]

50. Really? Are you that simplistic to even ask that question?

[ima_sinnic]

71. "simple-minded" is a more appropriate term

but I suppose you were giving it the benefit of the doubt

[mmonk]

52. So you say if you don't support everything he supports, you shouldn't vote for him?

All or nothing? Interesting concept. Since I don't get a chance to always vote for a progressive or liberal, then I shouldn't vote for a Democrat then? And they call us "purists". What a joke. If I supported everything someone supported due to their party affiliation without independent thought or conscience, wouldn't that make me like a Republican?

[Hatchling]

55. I voted for Obama, not the surge.

Yes, he talked about escalating Afghanistan, but he also said he would listen to us.

And what other choice did I have? All the better choices that I would have been happy voting for lost in the primaries.

I would have voted third party on principles, but McCain-Palin terrified me.

[Zhade]

56. Well, he told us he could be swayed. We made the mistake of thinking he meant by us.

Don't worry, I won't make the same mistake of voting for this liar again.

[TankLV]

58. It was him or Palin - easy choice...

Obama was far from my first choice...

I held my nose even tho I CRINGED when he raptured endlessly about Afghanistan...made the hairs on the back of my neck stand...

My worst fears are realized now...unfortunately...

[L0oniX]

59. It was a better choice over Mc Lame.

We would be playing "Bomb Bomb Bomb ...Bomb Bomb" Iran by now.

[TexasObserver]

60. Because he was the best choice, in spite of it. Duh.

You are illogical. Voting for a president is not a one issue event.

If you back the war, why are you here? Why aren't you going over there to fight? Too cowardly?

[FreeState]

61. If I only voted for people I agree with 100% on every issue there would be no one to vote for ever

[spoony]

67. Isn't it interesting that last week these same people

were calling those who disagreed with Obama about, whatever really, "idealogical purists", and NOW they WANTED people to be purists and demand to know why we voted for Obama if we disagreed with anything he said during the campaign? In other words, if he wasn't ideologically pure! The irony escapes them, of course.

[cbdo2007]

77. When have I ever called anyone an "idealogical purist" or ever said people should agree with

everything Obama does?

For someone who likes to generalize you sure do seem confused about the generalizations you are making.

[Flaneur]

62. I didn't, in part because of his Afghanistan position.

So I guess I don't have to shut the fuck up, huh?

And you can take your snide tone and shove it.

[G_j]

63. baloney

nt

[B Calm]

64. After 8 long years of Bush, I voted for him to piss off republicans!

[Mass]

68. Most idiotic statement in a while. Should they have allowed McCain to become president

(Thanks god they were not that stupid. Obviously he would have withdrawn the troops :sarcasm:

Voting for somebody does not mean agreeing with him/her 100 % of the time. It means choosing the person you agree the most with.

But you know that. You just cant stand that people will express their disagreement with president Obama on anything.

[Hepburn]

69. The choice was....

...McCain-Palin or Obama-Biden. And you ask why I voted for him?

:rofl:

[ima_sinnic]

70. next time i will NOT vote at all, ok?

sheesh, happy to add to the hundreds of unrecommends to one of the Top 5 Most Asinine Posts of All Time on DU.

and you're absolutely right--none of us who oppose war should have voted for him. That way, he would not have been elected. We on the left should use that power more. It is fun to think that, because of us, the country could slip into the chaos and dumbfuckery of a Palin presidency. What power!

That was my basic reasoning for voting for someone with whom I did not agree 100%, to keep it from going to Palin, but I guess that should no longer be a consideration.

on edit: oh, btw: alerted, so IBTL!

[VMI Dem]

75. That post is full of stupid.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

76. His support for a continutation of Bush's policies in Afghanistan was a deal breaker for me.

But, I respect the people who did vote for him in hope that he had more sense and ethics to do so.