For those that miss the old days of DU where "no one" supported the invasion of Afghanistan

[Renew Deal]

Here's a blast from the past.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x289081

As a side note, some old and familiar names in this thread.

[annabanana]

1. Ah yes.. that was 3 months after we invaded Iraq. . . n/t

[Renew Deal]

2. More like 6 months.

:shrug:

[ret5hd]

3. Wow! The number of pro-war tombstones there is very telling.

[Dogtown]

6. That's the message I'm taking away from that thread.

We've had pro-war provacateurs here since inception, and we have a "surge" of them now.

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[Renew Deal]

8. jiacinto was a special case

to say the least.

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. Oh jeez

j. carlos jiacinto!

That guy was a fucking clown.

[Renew Deal]

7. Lots of familiar names in that thread

Pastiche423, robbedvoter, David Zephyr, ElsewheresDaughter, scarletwoman, Patriot_Spear, HEyHEY, blm, NNN0LHI, and some others. Some of them still post hear, but all still have active accounts except Patriot Spear.

[dmallind]

5. I always supported action in Afghainstan. Iraq? Not so much.

The current mission in Afghanistan should have been the first one. The "strategery" and tactics were wrong, but the cause was always just.

[WCGreen]

9. Me too...

They could have done what the Soviets couldn't, go in overwhelmingly with strategic strikes and take out Bin Laden and then get out...

We would have been far better off and the we would have over a trillion dollars to explore clean energy, build much needed infrastructure repair and construction and wouldn't have a government and people full of blood lust...

We had to do something to act against Bin Laden but mounting a half assed invasion, which is what it was, and instead focus everything against Iraq, will probably go down as one of the worst military mistakes in American History. That invasion was so ill advised that it could actually lead to the collapse of the US as we know it. I don't think there would have been such rancor in our national political debates if we never invaded Iraq. And, Bush would have most surely been a one term president.

[Dogtown]

10. The ADVERTIZED cause, you mean.

The "PR" cause.

Which has little to do with any reality.

[dmallind]

11. The Taliban are not in power any more. Good thing or not? NT

[Dogtown]

13. Nothing to do with nothing.

Do you REALLY believe we went there to oust the Taliban? :rofl:



Saddam Husseign hanged: good thing or bad thing?

ANSWER: I don't give a fuck. While the neocons posture and count their profits, people are getting maimed and killed.

[dmallind]

16. As they were under the Taliban - and yes we did go there to do that

It was done effectively and well quite early in the process. the trick is building up a native force that can keep them out.

[Dogtown]

17. The Neocons claimed their objective was ousting the Taliban.

but they only cared about an excuse to invade Iraq. I don't believe for a second that you're too stupid to realize that, so you're an apologist for imperialism.

I won't waste further time on a tool. Hope I next read your nick on a tombstone.

[ZombieHorde]

19. President Obama plans on putting the Taliban back into power according to his Afghanistan speech.

"We will support efforts by the Afghan government to open the door to those Taliban who abandon violence and respect the human rights of their fellow citizens."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/remarks-president-address-nation-way-forward-afghanistan-and-pakistan

[Hepburn]

14. Thank you....

...that is the DU I joined in April 2004. Not this pro-war crap I am seeing today.

:hi:

[Renew Deal]

15. Acutally, it's the exact same place.

:shrug:

[xiamiam]

18. different times..hopefully we adapt to change..what was appropriate 9 yrs ago

is "dumb"...now

[Bluebear]

20. wrong place

[Bluebear]

21. I may have favored going to war with Japan in 1941 but not now.

[Faryn Balyncd]

22. Justification for action in 2002 does not equate with perpetual occupation.

[Puglover]

23. Obama isn't Bush.

And however I may disagree with some of his appointments and decisions I trust his judgement a hellava lot more the Prince Bunnypants. I don't see how a thread from 2003 can be compared to the situation now.

[scarletwoman]

24. Fascinating, thank you.

Proof that some of us have always been "radical extremists" here. :D

Btw, how did you manage to dig that up? I hardly ever have any luck getting into the older DU archives. I'd love to know how you did it.

Thanks again,
sw

[treestar]

25. Fascinating

And it looks like you could suggest some of the hijackers were still alive and not get the thread sent to the dungeon!

Same arguments as today, really.