I no longer have any faith in the US government

[whatchamacallit]

It has been captured by feudal lords. At this point I think we're pretty much on our own.

Have a nice day:hi:

[branders seine]

1. +1

government of the oligarchy, by the oligarchy and for the oligarchy

[niyad]

2. haven't had any for decades, now.

[pleah]

3. Be careful, I got hammered once, for saying

You should never trust your government. I'd like to be able to, but, it ain't gonna happen.

[HipChick]

4. When are you emigrating?

[whatchamacallit]

6. Are you actually curious if I have such intentions

or is this a good old freeperesque "love it or leave it" jab?

[HipChick]

20. No..serious question...I've travelled a lot

what countries are better than here?

[bertman]

25. That question certainly evades the issue the poster has raised, HipChick. Because many

of us still have relatively comfortable lives and enjoy freedoms that are only enjoyed in other relatively free nations, that does not mean that our nation is not being controlled by feudal lords or their modern-day equivalent.

When you look at the economic losses that are hammering many of our fellow Americans and the wealth that is, and has been, piling up in the coffers of the super-rich, it's not a stretch to look behind the screen and see that our lives are being controlled by our government at the behest of the elites. The economy and the industrial capacity of our nation is guided by persons who do not give a damn about the average citizen anymore. They are only interested in increasing their own power and wealth at the expense of the rest of us. And they are exercising that control through our elected and appointed officials--our government.

Are you ignorant of this?

Furthermore, if a citizen feels that he is now a vassal of feudal lords in a nation that markets itself and prides itself on government "of the people, by the people, and for the people", wouldn't it be better if that person stayed here and tried to reverse that trend? Emigrating would be a copout unless the feudal lords ratcheted up the oppression to a level that was no longer tolerable to the citizen.

[wtbymark]

5. and the only way it will ever change

is to repeal the rights mistakenly given to corporations 130 years ago.
Did you all know that the SC bases all of their corporate personhood decisions on a law clerk's comment on a case in the 1880's. No SC justice set presidence in this matter.

[FiveGoodMen]

12. You got that right!

The first time I heard that corporations counted as people I didn't believe it.

When I found out it was true I was just floored.

When I remarked on it to others and they just shrugged and looked at me funny, I should have known we were doomed.

How could anyone, anywhere, ever be that stupid?!

[CrispyQ]

18. I first read about corporate personhood in a letter to the editor.

The writer explained what corporate personhood is & that it is based on the faulty summary of a court clerk from the case Santa Clara County vs. Southern Pacific Railroad. Like you, I couldn't believe what I read - that corporations have personhood rights the same as living, breathing people. So I went to the library & checked it out.

I don't think most Americans really understand what it means, if they know what it is at all. I had an excellent primary & secondary education & graduated from college, but never in all those years was the concept of corporate personhood taught, much less the impact it has had on our government & society.

[Tejas]

23. Term limits. nt

[KansDem]

7. If anything, the "health-care debate" has shown who Congress really works for...

Reps and Senators sit up there on Capitol Hill saying, "No, no, no. You can't have single payer. The corporations don't want it so shut up about it!"

Look! A photo of a US Senator meeting with a corporate lobbyist!


...and here's one of a member of the House meeting with one, too!


Your Congress in action!

[Bobbieo]

13. We don't pick our congressmen very well - wish they were all like mine.

I meant Congressman not senators.

[dgibby]

17. Ain't nuthin' in Cogresss that cute! n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

8. So you had some faith during the Bush years?

:shrug:

[whatchamacallit]

11. Not at all

but the light at the end of that long, dark, 8 year, tunnel seems to be flickering out.

[frazzled]

9. Henny Penny says ...

take some Valium. Your sky-is-falling routine is in your head, and you just need to chill before reentering the real world.

[whatchamacallit]

15. Osterich needs to pull his head out. Have you been reading the news?

Here's a project for you mr. feelgood, compare the current state of the world, and this country in particular, with the same 10 years ago.

[nc4bo]

10. I remember, Du'er whose name escapes me, called it The United States of Corporations...

pretty accurate description I'd say.

[FrenchieCat]

14. Gee, I thought that happened 8 years ago.

Where have you been? :shrug:

[Triana]

16. Yep - We are alone with no representative government - definitely. n/t

[CrispyQ]

19. I lost faith when the American people elected Ronald Reagan.

When the hostages were released on his inauguration day, I knew the American people had been played. I was so disgusted, with both the People & the governemnt. I didn't vote again for over two decades.

[slackmaster]

21. Congratulations. You have reached the point where I was in 1974.

:hi:

[bigwillq]

22. I lost faith a long time ago

And, sadly, recent activities haven't restored my faith. The Congress is terrible, imo.

[treestar]

24. This just happened today?

So you did have faith in it before?

[whatchamacallit]

27. Never fully trusted, but I really started to wonder what was up during the 2000 election

It of course got progressively, insanely, worse over the bush years. I, like most here, breathed a sigh of relief when Obama took over... Maybe he will surprise everyone and reverse this runaway train. Right now, it doesn't look so good.

[stray cat]

26. Faith in government? Why would you have that? Why have faith in any democracy?

look around you - do you really trust the idiots you see to look out for you?

[roody]

28. Now you are free!